Razard86

Very unique post....question....if Dream Leo tortured you....and turned into some demonic alien that strapped you to a table probed you anally for a million years while screaming at the top of his lungs that everything is love!!!.....Would you still thank him? ^I know this sounds silly but I am actually honest about this question. Why? Come on man you can't go thanking Leo for your Dream Leo....lol. Waking Leo has no clue what Dream Leo is up to!! LOL!! He should probably add to his disclaimers IF YOU SEE ME IN YOUR DREAMS, WAKING LEO HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT DREAM LEO ENGAGES IN. LOL!!

How did you survive when you were homeless and how did you get out of being homeless. Also psychedelics alone are just a tool, the contemplation and deconstruction is the most important point. The voices in your head are your own creation. Essentially every personality you meet in the "real world" are just the thoughts/personalities within your own mind. So basically when you get into an argument with say ME for example...you are just arguing with one thought versus your current thought POV. I'm glad that based on what you wrote you appear to be doing fine. All the best to you. I would recommend realizing that the more you tap into consciousness altering substances dark themed thoughts/ paranoia/fear based thinking becomes more rampant and silly little storylines will start to be created. You need to be able to allow thoughts to arise....but not stick to them. Naturally we have been raised in cultures that have trained us to identity with our thoughts and become stuck with whatever thought arises. Other than that all the best.

Lol Oh come off it SOUL every human that has ever lived engages in this. But....that bit of putting that picture of Leo looking up at that very phrase I wrote...was GOLDEN!!! But yeah again...I do it, and on some level at some point in time we all do it. But....that was very good comedic timing. Take a bow Soul take a bow!!! Lol!!

What is Self-Righteousness? Self-Righteousness is the Ego's Sneaky Little BackDoor To Take Control When It Feels Threatened and Delude Itself Into Thinking That It Is Doing The Right Thing. This sneakiness is the cause of the Holy Wars, of Witch Trials, and Parents telling their kids what careers they should do, what religion they should worship, and what race they should marry into etc. The Ego likes to portray itself as the only sane one in the room. The one that sees things as they really are. The Ego believes it has the ultimate absolute truth and everyone needs to listen. How does this play out? *Admonishment: How dare you!!! You should know better!! Everyone knows you are supposed to do this and that!! Shame on you!! Straighten Up!!! *Superiority: I don't know why others act like that. They should act like this, but noooo they are so stupid and selfish and silly, and childish. *Need To Be Right: Even when evidence is presented that the person made an error, or maybe they are guilty of the same thing they are accusing another of they deflect, claim its different, or completely ignore that point altogether. Now I am not going to be a hypocrite and act like I don't do any of the above....lol I do...a lot actually. Particularly the Superiority bit with my friends, its an old habit and truthfully just something done for entertainment and giggles. I often laugh when people try to present this pious holy than thou attitude....get off of it lol!!! Most of you ain't holy and even the one who is...its just an act. Once you realize that everything in existence is just acting out a role, you won't take these things so seriously. Anyway....pay attention if you see yourself displaying any of these characteristics or you see it in others. Its okay for shits and giggles but when it comes to things like judging others...recognize you are being a hypocrite. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Nothing wrong with calling out behavior you don't agree with, but once you start judging others.....lol you are being delusional. Now you can be delusional if that is your choice, but recognize....only a devil judges, God/Infinite Love accepts everything. Also.....watch this video from Leo....maybe it will loose up some of that judgment. If you know of any other examples of self-righteousness? List them here!!

Here is another one I found. Bigot= a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group. What people don't understand is.....this is an identity game. Because membership of a particular group can be ANYTHING. It can be part of ideological camp, such as a person who houses a particular belief. So a person who thinks trans are bad, to a transperson they are a bigot, but to the transphobic person the person who disagrees IS A BIGOT!! Both are pointing at each other calling the other bigot!!! Its an identity game. And an elaborately juicy one as well. People get very emotionally vested into these ego dramas, not understanding...how history works and why people believe what they believe. Sometimes I forget myself but because I have studied history....and I have talked to OLD PEOPLE I am reminded that people's beliefs are entangled with the time period they are born in. Its interesting....transpeople want transphobic people to be open-minded but they themselves lack the open-mindedness necessary to understand why the transphobic people think the way they do. The most liberated I ever became before Spirituality is when I stopped caring as a Black Man if someone hated or thought less of me for the color of my skin. It was utterly and completely liberating. Housing that hatred inside....its not healthy.

Here is the definition of a grifter. https://www.google.com/search?q=Grifter+definition&rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS991US992&oq=Grifter+definition&aqs=chrome..69i57.5236j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Here is another source. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/grifter https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grift Here is another source. How many sources do you want? A grifter is a CON ARTIST. Okay now let's address your next points. You said I put the person through emotional hounding? You would need to explain this one because that is something that is completely subjective. In truth you are projecting your own biases now onto me in how I am supposed to respond? So now you are telling me HOW I need to respond? Look at all this self-righteousness? Listen DrugsBunny, the world does not revolve around your opinion. You do not have the authority of the right to tell someone HOW they should respond to someone. Do you have any clue how much arrogance is within you to TELL SOMEONE how they SHOULD or SHOULD NOT respond. Now you can make a suggestion....sure that is warrantable. But you are sitting here telling me HOW to respond? Especially...when you literally tried to correct me and YOU WERE WRONG. And you say I AM EMBARRASSING? You did not know that a grifter was a con artist. And instead of using a SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH to find that out. You responded immediately because what I wrote triggered you. GOOD that trigger is something telling you that there is deep hurt inside. THAT is why you came to their defense. You should be asking yourself WHY did what I type trigger you. I am not responsible for your emotion or anyone's emotions. Your emotions are YOUR CREATION. Stop blaming me or telling me HOW to respond. You can offer suggestions maybe let me know that maybe I was being too harsh. But first...LEARN WHAT A GRIFTER IS!!! That term is VERY OLD, VERYYYY OLD. A grifter is a person who engages in confidence games, they trick people into believing in them to gain something. If you did ANY research into Jordan Peterson's life he is FAR from a grifter. VERYYYYY FAR. You would need EVIDENCE to PROVE that. The man has a clinical practice which means HE IS LICENSED!!! WHICH MEANS HE IS GOVERNED BY AN ETHICS BOARD!!! To claim he is a con artist is a SERIOUS offence and could get him to LOSE his license!!! If you made a claim of him being a grifter in a magazine HE WOULD SUE YOU FOR LIBEL!!! Then you would have to PROVE how your assertions ARE TRUE!!! EASY to do for someone like Donald Trump!!! But Jordan Peterson? Good luck!! Now I say all the above with Love and Care!!! But PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!! Do some research before you respond to me!!! I stopped giving in to debates in the past for a reason....I really don't want to debate with anyone....because most people....only want to emotionally vent and defend their biases.

......You really have no clue what you are saying. When you enter deep sleep there is no dream....so you are unconscious. When you appear out of it...do you exist or don't you? Its BOTH. You are literally trying to pin down Reality which is infinite. You cannot pin down the infinite. Tell your finger nails, your heart beat, that it doesn't exist. As someone knocks you out yet your heart is still breathing. Stop the nonsense lol. Existence and Nonexistence are ONE. Death and Life are ONE. LOL. Stop the word games.

Reality is an infinite perspective...so whatever POV you take...that will be your experience.

^ Do you realize what you just said? You literally called Jordan Peterson a con artist. If you make a claim like that you would need actual events that can substantiate your claim. How do I know YOU aren't a con artist? Look you have some strong emotions against Jordan Peterson sure, but you can't go around just calling people con artists because what they say offends you. Also for Jordan Peterson to be Con Artist...he would have to NOT believe what he is saying (Like Donald Trump for example who just lies all the time) I truly believe that every word that comes out of Jordan Peterson's mouth is what he believes. Now someone can be wrong and not a liar, as a lie is a conscious attempt to deceive someone which means you are AWARE the information you are giving you do not believe. Jordan Peterson has biases sure, but....what person doesn't? Right now....your bias against Jordan Peterson is showing. You would only like Jordan Peterson if he says things you like....that's bias, and its also controlling. Life is going to continually expose you to people you don't agree with, you can choose to ignore them or contend with them/debate them. Either way the whole point of having a POV (point of view) is it is inevitably going to conflict with other POV. Its normal and a natural part of life. What becomes a blind spot is when you start demonizing others because they don't agree with you. Is Jordan Peterson biased? Yes. Is he full of fear? Yes. Does he do the best he is currently capable of to operate from the level of development he is at? Absolutely. The man is a product of every single event in his life, outside of some Eckhart Tolle instant enlightment he is pretty much set on what he believes. I do not believe he is ready to plunge any further into the unknown so he will dance around the edges. As a result he is going to have biases about Transgenders and whatever makes sense from his perspective. It isn't malicious he ACTUALLY BELIEVES HE IS RIGHT. But he isn't brave enough....to drop everything he believes in and investigate beyond his normal education into deep metaphysical territory on the nature of reality.

1. Naw... man you don't understand infinity.....by studying it....you awaken to it in it's totality and you recognize it by BEING it. Infinity is understood from BEING it. Again if you really think....that this is the endpoint....then this is all you will ever know. 2. At higher levels you get to actually be everything there ever was and ever will be. And don't tell me its part of the dream because EVERYTHING is the dream. Both the sense of a self and no self are both in the dream. Reality itself IS the dream. So there is no where to go, and nothing to do. 3. One of the highest realizations you get is there is a knowing that is beyond words or concepts. So yes...the different levels of awakening that exists give you those. Again Reality is a STORY that tells itself a STORY. It tells itself a story on every level, through every sensory experience imaginable. It can do this an infinite number of ways because it has no boundaries. 4. Its like I create the greatest VR simulator ever, and you guys come in and tell everyone to use the first settings and never explore anything else. 5. Also that last part you said....the effort is futile, and that's where the real work begins. According to Tony, he would disagree with you. He would say there is no real work to begin because that implies free will and that you just contradicted yourself because you said effort is futile so how can you then say real work. He would tell you that his meetings are energetic, but you have no control on what appears to happen. An Openness is needed to his "communication" but that its completely out of your control. In my opinion he doesn't explain the Free Will conundrum well. Free Will is both an illusion and real at the same time. If I hide that you are being controlled, and give you the illusion of choice....then you have free will. If I reveal by dropping the veil that hides your lack of choice and reveal you are being controlled....then your free will is gone. Illusion and Real are ONE and the SAME. Its like going to a Magic Show and never understanding the tricks. You can CLAIM you know its fake but until you figure out how its done....its the same as being real. Illusion and Real are ONE and the SAME.

The Leo that did it for the first time....was unable to do it daily. Leo you are speaking from current Leo, who is a different Leo. Younger Black T-Shirt Leo says and I quote "No you don't want to do this everyday." Come on Leo....don't forget your younger days. LOL.

Lol a friend put me onto him. He definitely is rather interesting, but he isn't the endpoint. But he is definitely useful for people who want to awaken to NO SELF. But if you think Tony's message is the sticking point....then you have no clue what Infinity is. Most people are not going to break out of their dream state listening to him, even with a resonance to his talks. Even with the understanding of no free will etc, I can tell you from direct experience that even the concept of Free Will isn't even as simple as he states it. For example....every POV is equally GOD in its totality. You can raise your consciousness and realize that the entire universe is in synch with every movement that you make. That your movements in your human body isn't because of nerves....its because of Universal Will. You realize your will is universal will. You also realize that through the illusion you created in the dream free will exists because you hide from yourself the construction of the dream and how it functions. So its like taking a test that you created and have the answers but wiped your memory and now have to figure out what the answers are. Anyway I like Tony.... I believe he does good work in helping people get to the bottom. He is also the complete 360 degree opposite of Leo lol. There couldn't be two more different speakers on Spirituality than those two.

You are dreaming. THE END. This is a dream. Its like asking what will happen on the next Movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. There is nothing to transcend. This is a DREAM, A STORY, and we are all the characters. Can Harry Potter transcend the Harry Potter series? No. Can Spider Man transcend the Spider Man series? No. Leo cannot transcend the Leo series. And you cannot transcend the Julian Gabriel series. You are the Universe....floating in an Infinite Void dreaming. When you awake you will realize....you were asleep. No different than your night time dream. But hey....its a cool story!!!

Well its both....depending on how you look at it. It doesn't help a person to believe it isn't real if in their direct experience it is real....its only told to people who believe its real so they can possibly discover for themselves it isn't. Its kind of funny when its discovered it isn't though.....you are surprised you ever took anything seriously.

So Science will eventually prove.....what was already discovered like 5000 years ago and then pat themselves on their shoulders and give themselves Nobel Prizes. What kind of silly game is this? Oh well watch this video if it interests you but what kind of silly delusion is going on? Humans claims to follow history well this so called "discovery" was already known. They didn't prove anything, they just verified what was already known.

^Quiet Tony Parsons. Who are you teaching?

^This is the only plausible thing to me. When I died I entered a void, sat there for a while was asked what I was and when I responded God is Infinity and this will never end I was told that is the correct answer and blasted out of that void and watched reality render back into being like a computer program reassembling reality back into place. Blew my mind when I saw it. Death is covered up through the projection of what we call life. Death houses life within it. All death is...is the falling away of what we call life lol.

Well hey....we all go through stages of realization...at one point I too thought those that lived on a hill in India were superior lol. I quickly dropped that notion later on but I did entertain it for awhile before I saw how foolish it was. The issue with being at a higher stage is it is sometimes hard for you to connect to previous stages because you are not living from that stage anymore. So I understand your confusion as to why seekers think that way....but think back to the silly stuff you believed 10 years ago. Hell I cringe at stuff I believed even a year ago lol!!

1. Well every form or lack thereof is a dream. Because God is a dream/story that tells itself a story. Its an infinite dream that knows itself (Self-Love) but wants to know itself completely (which it cannot because it is infinite) so the moment it knows anything...that knowing...is not it because a new recontextualization of that knowing comes into being. This is obviously beyond time and space etc. 2. The truth is.... we are actually both right now...form is formless that is an illusion of form. All form is....is sensations. Once all sensations are dropped all that is left is formlessness. So in truth we are formless right now...so there is no distinction between formlessness and form. There is only formlessness appearing as form. 3. The better question would be....at the moment the avatar drops....what other dream will there be. Will you stay as the God Head for all eternity or put yourself asleep to dream another finite world....the truth is...right now...both are actually happening simultaneously at this moment, so I guess the question is....when you zoom out from your finite perspective....what would be? I have no other clue honestly....it seems to me to be the next question to really entertain. Do you erase your memories and relive the same dream again? Do you pick another dream character? I have no clue honestly.

^ This is why God is a mystery unto itself. It can never completely know itself because it is always moving beyond what it knows. Infinite ever more recontextualizations for all of infinity.

I do think there is a higher way if you guys really want to become Lucid at a much more obvious level. But beware....you may not like what you see. I once ate an edible and I was able to see how I was controlling everything. Everything was in sync with me from my POV. Curt Jaimungal asked Leo how a person could become aware of themselves as God and Leo offered an easy way. He said take 5 MEO DMT 10 times at 30 miligrams. Now personally...I believe since a lot of you have probably already deconstructed so much already...if you took that substance a couple of times...you would probably be able to see in REAL TIME, how you are rendering everything....and be able to sense that you are the only conscious being in existence. So beware....being Lucid in the Dream......might spoil this illusion for you. Its not going to give you the ability to control it, but truthfully it will give the added benefit of stopping it from you taking it so serious. Good Luck. I am sure these exercises can help you on less stronger substances. If you really want to destroy the veil do these exercises on a substance of your liking that you feel raises your consciousness. I'll give you one other example. I was recently walking....I noticed that when cars were passing by...even as they rode off in the distance....I could still feel them driving on the road. Not just the sound of them driving...but I could feel the tires rolling on the road. Really concentrate and you will notice..you can feel them driving in the distance....that is PROOF that you are the road and the car....and they are driving in your mind.

^ This is a story we tell ourselves....I've recently taken certain risks that I normally would not and everything worked out fine. Now I am not saying be an idiot, obviously be very careful, and if you can get say psychedelics in a legal way do it. But you will be surprised how events can unfold and a psychedelic can land in your lap if you truly want to investigate reality. Its almost like.....that's the freaking purpose of this whole thing we call life....and everything else is just a distraction. Nothing wrong with the other distractions they form their own purpose....but it appears this could be the case. Of course...ultimately....everything written here is just a story....but dammit I like this story lol.

^ This is just parroting... not too sound mean but you need to drop the parroting. Reality is both known and unknown. What is known? Recognition. Reality would need to recognize itself TO COMMUNICATE with itself which is literally what is happening right now. Recognition is KNOWING. Without the ability to recognize itself it could NEVER communicate. Go try to communicate with someone in a language that you don't understand...you can't because you do not recognize that part of consciousness. You placed a limitation on yourself in consciousness. You can recognize the form of the language, but you cannot recognize the meaning that is being attributed to them. What is blindness? A lack of recognition of form. What is deafness? A lack of recognition of sound. So reality can know itself because it is itself, but because it is infinite....its knowledge of itself can never be stable, or grasped, the moment it knows anything....that knowledge can be transcended or recontextualized into ever greater meaning. Since it is eternal, its knowledge will never end so it cannot know itself completely because it can have infinite recontextualizations which is what creativity is. The part of reality that can never be known is the part of reality that holds all perception. Reality can only know itself through perception or what we can call the senses. Through the senses...it is created through sense-making what I posted up earlier in the thread. But paradoxically you can know it....through becoming aware through the contrast of that which is known....which is the sensory perception. So it is both known and unknown. If it wasn't known....it could never be pointed too... how can that which cannot be known...ever be discovered and pointed to? It points to itself....when it becomes aware of itself.....what we can say is it can never be known completely. This is true....but the issue is....infinity becomes VERY attached to its deception of form and is really hard for it to release its attachment. From one perspective it can be a cruel game that it is playing with itself.

The answer is yes and no. It is not beyond comprehension in the sense that comprehension is a story, and all it does is craft stories. As a result whatever stories it creates is always right....as long as it believes its own stories. Its also no because all stories are just self-imposed limitations, it can transcend any story it tells....but without story....it doesn't exist. So it needs to fool itself with elaborate stories.....so that it can have an identity.

Wow patience...what do you think I am trying to do? Its a process....I'm inching towards. That first post I just contemplated on more and more and I realized the profoundness of it. I need you to do the same. For example....Thought is a perception....a sense, so is sight (people forget this one), so is physical touch, taste, smell, so is the various emotions as well. These are all senses. Now...what many don't know is that silence is a form of sound...you can hear silence...which is the absence of what you call sound....so here is the BIG clue....lack of sense....is ALSO A SENSE. You see we get distracted by all our senses...what you need to focus your attention or sensing....is the GAP between all senses.....its there!!! That GAP...is INFINITY. DO YOU HEAR ME? THE GAP BETWEEN all sensory perception IS WHAT YOU ARE. That GAP is the same GAP when you enter the deep sleep, DREAM LESS SLEEP. Because since all existence or reality to us or life to us is sensory perceptions then the lack of any....would be to us DEATH/NON EXISTENCE. The funny thing is....you can sense that you are DEAD right now. I have noticed that if you take consciousness altering substances...they can free up or loosen your tightness or contracted sense of being the body which can make these practices easier to sense. I have another pointer for you. Make your index finger move.... notice that you can not make your index finger move by having a thought of I'm going to make it move. Try it. Think I'm going to move my index finger and you can see that the thought of I'm going to move my index finger doesn't move it. The only reason you REALIZE you are moving it is because of two things. Its connected to the body....which you identify as YOU, and you can FEEL that you are moving it. Notice this is just an identity trick. So....if I numbed your finger....you couldn't feel you are moving it....but you could still move it. Notice that you cannot explain...how you are moving it. Try it....you will notice...you cannot explain how you are moving your finger.....it just happens. Well that ability to move your finger....IS WILL. If you can notice that you can move your finger....without being aware you are moving it...the same way with breathing....and your heart beating....and your hair/nails growing....then you can realize....you are doing the same thing....with every thing you see =Weather, people....etc. Listen to a video with some headphones, close your eyes and listen intently. You'll notice that you can hear those voices within you, try to latch your attention onto every word, what you will notice....is you can predict what they are going to say slightly before they say it...why? Because those voices you are hearing inside? YOU are speaking them....inside....they are YOUR VOICE. We keep making distinctions between OTHER sensations....when every sensation is our sensation....even the ones we cannot sense. When Leo talks about raising consciousness he is saying.....the ability....to sense EVERYTHING. We play a disassociation game with ourselves, and create OTHERS to fool us!!! Which is HILARIOUS!!!! There is a song I use to sing in church as a kid. It went like this....He's got the whole world in his hand!" If you can sense into the gap between all sensory perceptions....and notice you are HOLDING all the perceptions within you....then you will see you have the WHOLE WORLD in your hand. The hand of your awareness. You are that empty lack of perception (cannot be seen, touched, tasted, smelled, or heard) but surprisingly...it can be felt....the same way you can feel silence you can feel the lack of any perception. That lack of perception is the hand of God which holds the WHOLE WORLD