Razard86

Well first of all why do you hate to say this? And of course...why wouldn't I know this? The truth is YOUUUUUU don't realize this. This is YOU telling you to stop running from the meaning you craft, the meaning you craft will either imprison you or liberate you. I selfishly desire liberation for you. May you be liberated by taking ownership of how you employ the tool of meaning. All POV is biased and egoic, therefore all meaning is delusion because it is limited. As a result, only craft meaning that can empower you, not disempower you. A victim is an identity of disempowerment. Also....what this thread discusses... as far as how meaning is crafted....can also be referenced in this video by Leo. Everything is just a pointer...I like to use pointers that shake people up because people think they understand.. BUT THEY DON'T so I have to use their blindspots to show them that they still don't get it. A lot of people would watch this video...and think they got it. Then read my thread and go bonkers. The Ego cares about survival, meaning is crafted for survival. Nothing I said in this thread...disagrees with this video. Notice your blindspot and attachment to that word.

When have I ever said my relative perspective wasn't ego? Go back and read my previous thread I already stated, MULTIPLE times that ALL relative perspectives are EGO. That they are selfish. NOTICE you didn't notice that....you ignored it....because it didn't fit the meaning you were creating. You filtered it out. You want me to link this? And again... Proserpina....I already proved it didn't exist using the ABSOLUTE. If it doesn't exist in the absolute...it doesn't exist in the relative. So if it doesn't exist in the relative...then what is the problem? All of you are purposefully blinding yourself to what God Realization is. It is the end of victim hood, it is the end of blame. What I am saying...ISN'T NEW!!! I am just pointing to it using a HOT BUTTON WORD that people love to throw around. Now notice...NOBODY had a problem when Rupert Spira says there is no personal responsibility...but when I say Gas Lighting doesn't exist....I get all this push back. Its so funny!!! Yall don't understand how deeply rooted your identity game is. All I got to do is use the word Gas Light....AND LOOK AT THE RESPONSE!!! If I used a different word...no response. If I parrot Rupert Spira...no problem. But I use this ONE WORD...and all hell breaks loose!!! So you say the same thing...but use a DIFFERENT WORD...WHICH IS AN IDENTITY!!! You all don't want to see, and thus you delude yourselves. Here is another pointer!! Regular good ole science says there is no free will!!! https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-will/480750/ So...who is gaslighting who??? If there is no free will? Notice I say the only free will you have is the meaning you ascribe to things...outside of that...the (ego) controls nothing. So...how can gaslighting exist...when even science is saying there is no controller?

I'm glad you noticed. 1. This is because you don't know what a reflection is. YOU just responded to me...so what is that? A REFLECTION. You complicate things because you don't understand. Right now...you are engaging in THOUGHT (amanen) with another thought (Razard) which is called REFLECTION!!! When someone tells you to reflect on that they are telling you to think!! What is happening right now? THOUGHT!!! THIS IS THOUGHT!! THIS IS THINKING!!! THIS IS REFLECTION!!! Instead of being so quick to critique... MAYBE YOU SHOULD REFLECT MORE!!!! JUST A THOUGHT!!!

Each moment...is just appearances....don't judge, don't identify. Just explore....any meaning you project onto it...will never be what it actually is. Just observe, play with it, but don't judge it. Why? Because then you will suffer...your interpretations. If you don't like it....then you won't be liking you....so you will be miserable. But if you like it....then you will be liking you and you will be happy. So you will rise and fall out happiness into misery and your life will be like a roaring tide. You are meaning....so when you judge something bad....you feel bad, you judge something good, you feel good. If you ever want peace, tranquility, observe without judging. If a judgment or interpretation arises....reply "That is not what is....that is just judgment." How can you judge that which is infinite? Do you know the stars control you? Do you know how all life in the universe that has lived and will ever live control you? Infinity is beyond past present and future. Which means past, present and future are ONE. If they are one....everything controls everything...if everything controls everything...there is no cause or effect. So every explaination...is just a subjective delusion of an illusion. Do you see? So why play this game with yourself? Meaning is a tool, a limited tool, use it as such. But no....you use this tool haphazardly and then you suffer your lack of skill and look outside yourself to blame an other. Its like a painter who paints a painting he hates....and looks around and asks "Who painted this?" How long...will you look outside....for something to blame? How long will you look outside for love? How long will you look outside? When outside and inside....are the same? The irony of how profound this game is....each POV you encounter is just your thoughts. So each POV reflects YOUR THOUGHTS. So when someone calls you ugly...that is YOU CALLING YOU UGLY!!! Do you get it? Events aren't random....THEY ARE YOUR MIND. YOUR LIFE IS JUST YOU TALKING TO YOU!!! Wake up!!! LOL. Really pay attention to what is going on in your life.....there are no OTHERS!!! They are you....engaging with YOU!!! Practice this mindset and you will start to see life is VERY interesting!!! When events happen I ask....what am I up to now? LOL.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. So on a topic of gaslighting here is the meaning that has been created. 1. Razard86,I think you're afraid of being human and feeling vulnerable, that's why you're so obsessed with bringing a nihilistic point of view into every interaction. 2. You misuse spirituality to hurt people. You're just being toxic. You don't communicate from a pure place of Love but from a very egoic place. 3. I suggest you, before you point out your fingers on others biases, to check your own biases first towards women, vulnerability, weakness, gaslighting and many other terms you use against people. Notice this? Off one thread look at the storylines. So apparently I am afraid to be human , I misuse spirituality to hurt people (who have I hurt? How would you define hurt? If I am hurting feelings...everyone hurts feelings you literally cannot live without hurting someone's feelings. Also now I am toxic, and do not communicate from a place of love but from ego. Do you see my point? ^^^LOOK^^^^ This is so obvious. Notice all the meaning being created....if meaning was self-evident...you couldn't craft so much diverse reactions. So here is the question....which meaning is true? You have some that agree and some say I am toxic, and biased, and I misuse spirituality to hurt people. So am I being a Devil....or am I speaking the Truth? Do you see? I thought meaning was self-evident why is there disagreement here if what I was saying was untruthful? Is it because...meaning is completely fiction and self-serving? Is it that meaning is designed around survival for an ego? Actually read this thread and notice the different responses. THAT SHOULD MAKE YOU ASK WHY DOES EVERY POV HAVE A DIFFERENT RESPONSE TO MY THREAD? Instead of defending your POV actually consider....that there maybe something more here going on....or you can just stay asleep.

It means you are so smart....that you are stupid. What does this mean? I'll explain....so I sat here asking myself what is meaning....and it struck me....I actually didn't know. I sat here and realized...that knowledge and meaning are the same thing...and that meaning and knowledge is that which we construct or build. But then I realized...that language....is a miracle. We take language for granted but we don't realize...that language actually doesn't make sense at all. I give you a list of symbols call the Alphabet in English. I then give you a ridiculous number of combinations of these symbols, and their sounds...change depending on how you combine them and then there are cultural contexts and situation contexts and the definitions keeps changing and there are accents!!!!! Do you not realize...how language is a freaking miracle? Do you not realize how complex and intelligent you have to be...to learn a language? Sit down and really contemplate this!!! You will realize...how stupid you are for thinking you are stupid!!! You have to be ridiculously intelligent to learn EVEN ONE LANGUAGE!! Language...is literally impossible!!! Its a freaking miracle!! You have no idea....how ridiculously intelligent you have to be....and you take it for granted as if its normal!!! This is PROOF you are asleep!! You are asleep on how ridiculously intelligent you are!!! Just mastering language alone... makes you a genius!!! But you are so smart...you are dumb and numb to how smart you are!!! Which is SO FUNNY!!!! Even you being numb to how smart you are...is itself a MIRACLE!!! Like how could you NOT realize how smart you are? I know....if you are walking in a world of other geniuses...you would think...you aren't smart. So your delusion comes from comparison...lol....its so funny how everything always comes down to comparison. A 6 foot tall man would believe he is tall in Japan, but drop him in the NBA and he is a midget. Oh...as they say comparison is the thief of all joy!! Oh and this entire passage....is proof that meaning can come from deconstruction as well since I had to deconstruct meaning...to construct meaning....to figure out that meaning....doesn't even make sense....even though to construct meaning...you are using sense (sensory perception) to create sense. So you use sense to create more sense. Which I've already pointed to in the past....but really ask what meaning is from your POV. I mean really dive deep and you will realize....you don't know. If you ask the age old question you asked as a Child Why does that mean that? You keep asking why....you will realize you don't know. This is proof when you were a child you were on the right track...lol your parents/guardians just kicked you off the track lol.

Exactly....you will discover...that meaning....cannot ever be spoken....we have never spoken meaning ever....meaning...is absolutely mysterious. The only explanation I can conclude its God recognizing itself through recontextualization like being in a hall of infinite mirrors and coming up with an interpretation.

Depends on which level you are discussing....from the absolute...life itself...is gaslighting. But to look at from the level you are asking it is both. Because first gaslighting has to be intential, a lie is only a lie when it is purposeful. You can't lie on accident, that is just ignorance. A lie is done knowing the information is false and given with full knowledge it is false. So yes if the party lies on purpose and the person believes it then yes they are gaslighting them. Gaslight is a term that likes to be attributed to reality. So for example if I am a giving person, and I tell you no and you call me selfish and I believe....maybe I am not giving enough? That would be gaslighting. If that person is someone you always give too and they don't give back at all or rarely and the one time you tell them no, they call you selfish. But you....being a very giving person don't want to be perceived as selfish so you agree with them in an attempt to not violate your identity as a giving person and give to them. So the person controls you out of your fear of being bad since you view not giving as bad and struggle to say "NO." Later on you BLAME them, and say they gaslighted you when in reality....you gaslighted yourself first. You know full and well you are a giving person and how can someone who is less giving accuse you of not giving enough? Its ridiculous right? But you....pursuing more and more levels of selflessness and denying your own selfishness because selfishness is bad....you give more than you are comfortable with. So you violated your own boundaries because you couldn't face your own judgment of being perceived as selfish. The secret is...EVERYONE IS SELFISH!! So if they call you selfish...the correct response is yeah and so what? You are selfish too!!! This is not a battle the narcissist can beat you in....if you really wanted to be cruel...you could list everything you did for them and how they don't reciprocate. But again...you won't do that...because "that's bad." You see? You judge yourself and the narcissist can control you because they don't give a damn LOL. True liberation...is to release yourself and others from judgment. Otherwise....you will either be a narcissist, or self-righteous. Which are polar opposites of the same coin.

^You are getting it!!! I am so happy!!! The point it to realize this...and take back ownership of how you use meaning....and craft a story and character (your ego) to your liking. Take full responsibility for how you use the tool of meaning. I don't consciously control the events that transpire...but I do control the meaning I ascribe to them. If you can see through the veil of the webs of meaning you craft...then you can finally be the hero you always wanted to be in your own original story. REALLY contemplate on what I am saying here. Deconstruct and recontextalize until you see life the way YOU want to see it, not how OTHERS are telling you to see it. Those OTHERS are just your own mind....you gonna let your thoughts run you? Or are you going to run them? You run them by controlling how you perceive them. You can perceive everything as good, bad, or neutral. THAT IS YOUR CHOICE. THAT IS WHAT FREE WILL IS. THIS IS WHAT LIBERATION IS!!! Because you recognize what true freedom is, its the freedom to view things how you desire. Most people use meaning unconsciously and compulsively, choose to do it consciously.

Listen to what you just said...you said the absolute POV is correct but its not valuable? Is it that its not valuable....or are you assuming its not valuable? Here I will show you how you aren't being creative with it and thus do not see its value. 1. If you create meaning...if you are TRUTH, then you can train yourself to create meaning that is beneficial to what you desire. So for example...why is rejection HARD? Its hard because we create that meaning that rejection is hard. If you can become AWARE through practice...that YOU are creating suffering. Then you can overcome your fear of rejection. So explain to me how learning how you create meaning, and then controlling the meaning you apply is not VALUABLE? THERE IS NOTHING MORE VALUABLE THAN THIS!! WHY? BECAUSE YOU CREATE VALUE BY CREATING MEANING!!! 2. Value= Runs your life because your life is totally encased and encircled around survival. The problem is majority of that value you create haphazardly and you apply it unconsciously and as a result you become TRAPPED by the meaning and value you create!!! Why do you think people feel unworthy or not good enough? Because THEY CREATE THAT MEANING. They become victims of their ability to create meaning, and then craft beautifully and ingenious storylines as to why that meaning is CORRECT!! So you suffer your own ingenious intelligence as to why you are unworthy or not good enough!! Do you not understand what I am presenting here? I am presenting you with the possibility...to control meaning...and to use it as a tool with your awareness instead of falling asleep and using it like a drunken writer who writes stories that he hates!!!

I have to give my authority away to be gaslighted...also....the "person" who do it...WAS ME!!! LOL!!! If a person took a psychedelic right now...and was conned by a DMT elf, they would just laugh it off....but when it happens in "reality." They play the victim. Look if people want a survival based, relativistic response: Here is one....don't just give your authority away to anyone!! Obviously we do live in an interconnected world so sometimes you have to give it away to things like Doctors, Mechanics, Pilots, etc. But never BLAME them because YOU gave your authority away. I am not saying don't hold them accountable for their actions....but what action preceded their action? YOU giving them your authority. We hold CEOs responsible for business decisions that cause your investments to fall, why? Because that CEO represents the authority of the business. Treat your life like a business, you make decisions...the BUCK STOPS WITH YOU. This entire thread is called SPIRITUALITY and this forum is created on a site called Actualized. Org by Leo Gura whose signature is YOU ARE GOD YOU ARE LOVE. YOU ARE INFINITY. YOU ARE LEO. If this doesn't even wake up ....I don't know what else. Here is a mindfuck for you...when Leo tells someone he is going to ban them, he is TOTALLY AWARE he is talking to himself. In modern culture...we like to claim someone is insane for say talking to a wall and thinking it is a person. Right now...you are GOD...talking to yourself and SEEING OTHERS!!! So....God....is insane....you see? You can twist and turn this however you want. Why do you think Leo was able to request to see what Insanity was? Because God is insane. Your POV are too scared to be destabilized and because of that limitation...you will suffer that limited perspective. This is also proof you don't want to expand your POV...you just want things to go your way. The funny thing is if that happened....it would BORE YOU. Like playing a game that is too easy, or watching a movie you have seen before. LOL. Oh the irony...you really don't understand your subconscious mind (reality).

^ Speak for yourself my dad and my ex were narcissist. According to the definition of the word....the great thing is...this is how I learned what I am sharing with you. Have you not learned that narcissists are parasites? A parasite infects its host, so what happens when one is traumatized by a narcissist? THEY BECOME ONE. They start projecting their PAIN and SEE narcissism EVERYWHERE. They go around accusing EVERYONE of gaslighting them. A tell tell sign of a kind person being traumatized by a narcissist is they go around throwing the word gaslight around as if it was some greeting. The MOMENT ANYTHING triggers them they use the word gaslight. If you do not realize or notice what I am telling you....you will suffer what many call narcissistic abuse...from a "victim" of a narcissist. Narcissists create more narcissists by turning those who engage with them into fatalists full of resentment from past hurts and they see the whole world as narcissistic. Its why forgiveness is so important. But ultimately...all of this is a game. I can even deconstruct what I said above and make it very simple. 1. Has anyone ever existed outside of your sensory perception? NO. So if you cannot see me, hear me, touch me, I don't exist. So my existence or lack thereof is entangled with your senses....which means I AM YOUR SENSORY PERCEPTION. So if I am your sensory perception...then who is traumatizing who? 2. Are you going to accuse your sensory perception as AN OTHER? All OTHERS, the entire WORLD, is just your sensory perception. So WHO is traumatizing you? WHO IS HURTING YOU? You are dreaming things through sensory perception, pretending that you are not, getting lost in your senses and crafting storylines of pain, and drama, and a whole lot of other things. But your entire life is JUST SENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. So...based on the premise that everything is just sensory perception....when you are in DEEP SLEEP is their sensory perception? NO! So what is life? It is just a projection of sensory perception UPON DEEP SLEEP. So you have the less stable sensory perception called a dream, and then the waking dream you call life. But they are BOTH just sensory perception being projected onto DEEP SLEEP. So....if your entire life is just your PROJECTION....then you are ALL ALONE DREAMING....SO WHO IS A VICTIM? You see I could have been kind and allowed you to keep crafting narratives, but sometimes the greatest kindness is the bitter truth. YOU ARE ALL ALONE, DREAMING UP THE ILLUSION OF OTHERS WHO ARE YOU AND THEN PLAYING VICTIM. You have created a nightmare and I, WHO ARE YOU am telling you how to wake up. This means....you are RESISTING YOURSELF who is giving you pointers on how to wake up. The choice...IS YOURS.

Gaslighting is an identity game. The belief in gaslighting is itself gaslighting. Anyone that believes in it, will be guilty of doing it. Those who defend its existence do so because they enjoy playing the victim and haphazardly throwing the term around. If you find yourself using this word, it's because you seek emotional validation from others. Requiring others to give you emotional validation when it means them being dishonest about their own emotions is itself asking the person to gaslight you. You can only be gaslighted if you engage in it yourself.

Seems you are still playing the game of denial. I understand it's a very fun game. Your reply is actually a wonderful example of what I just described so great job!! Keep it up!! Also here is a fun fact: This thread was written in general. Notice how your ego co-opts this message, takes it personally and makes it about them. Now why did that happen? Because it triggered you. So whenever you get triggered you BLAME that which triggers you. So Notice you said I Gaslighted you as if this was some personal message directed at you. Notice how selfish and self-centered that is. Is that not a narcissistic trait? You turned a general message directed at nobody and crafted a story that it was a personal act directed at you.

I hope you do!!! Because YOU ARE AMAZING!!! THANKS FOR BEING YOU!!

No......YOU ARE TALENTED FOR THIS KIND OF INTELLECTUAL INSIGHTS!!! LOOK AT HOW AMAZING YOU ARE!!! I only write because I love my self (all of my self all infinite variations) and I want to inspire my self!!!

The Internet is going to continue to shake up the different markets and change the Financial Compensation Models and Market Caps. We will see this happening with how teachers get paid as that model is going to change drastically and obviously it is already happening but when I refer to teachers I mean professors and our entire collegiate/university system. Anyway look at this comedy short which showcases how Professional Fighters Feel About Things At The Moment.

And that is my point, Life is Self Corrective, You Don't Need Principles...Principles Is Just Your Projection Onto Life....How Do We Learn Anything? Life Teaches Us. The Reason I Can Safely Say That Anger Doesn't Need To Be Controlled...Is Because Life Will Reveals In Its Own Way The Proper Expression Of Anger. If You Try To Control It, The Way A Human Believes It Should Be Expressed, It Will Be Repressed. A Human Tells Somebody...Shhhh Don't Yell, Sometimes For The Person To Express Themselves Yelling Is Appropriate. You Cannot Snap Your Fingers And Change A Person's Emotional Maturity. So For Them Yelling May Be Appropriate Until They Outgrow That Form Of Expression. If You Fight This....You Will Learn The Hard Way That Reality Always Expresses Itself As It Is....Not How You Want It To Be. Here's a fun exercise...stop thinking there is a difference between a baby and an adult. I am sure you have come across adults with the emotional maturity of a baby. Can you MAKE a baby stop crying? Or does it have to learn to stop? Because we look at an adult physically and assume them to have emotional maturity we are caught off guard when they act childish. But see that is our bias, then we project onto them and say...well they SHOULD act like this because look how old they are!!!! Then we try to control them and get them to act the way we think an adult should act and we get the same issues we get with a child just in a bigger body. This is Reality teaching you a core concept....that rules...do not control anybody. They never have and never will. Even the fear of punishment is not an effective deterrent. At the end of the day...Reality just expresses itself as it is...and we constantly keep reinterpreting it to make sense of it. But the truth is all our attempts to make sense of it...is never a true representation of what is actually going on. EVER.

You said express anger improperly that means you believe there is a right way to express anger. This belief in a right way to do things...is the belief of right and wrong. You don't know what is right or wrong....you find out AFTERWARDS. Until you realize you have never known what the right or wrong thing is....you will continue to live in delusion. The highest truth is every single human on the planet is a fool, you are making up things as you go....making things up as you go is call bullshit. Every human being....is full of shit.

Truth realization is that you are truth.

Everything you just said....is pure imagination. YOU determine what is bullshit theory and what isn't bullshit theory. All knowledge is based on meaning that you create. YOU, not an other, there is no objective measurement, there never has been. Objectivity is completely and utter illusion and fabrication. If LOCATION doesn't exist, then shape, size, color, whatever distinction you create is NOT REAL. Reality is purely made out of sensory perception. Any measurement that is made is entangled with your sensory perception. If a blind man does an experiment and a deaf man does the same experiment there findings will be different. Hot and cold is based on your sensory perception. Loud and quiet the same. This means THERE IS NO OBJECTIVE REALITY. YOU ARE REALITY.

You are a genius in denial that you are a genius. Here is your boy Einstein..... imagination....is the greatest form of intelligence....you only were able to reach this point....because you didn't limit your imagination.....which is what reality is made of. Einstein wrote, "There are only a few enlightened people with a lucid mind and style and with good taste within a century. What has been preserved of their work belongs among the most precious possessions of mankind." The key words are lucid....and enlightened.....

^ YOU determine what is ungrounded and unhinged. You cannot understand language...unless you agree with the definition. Are you getting it? Your POV is absolute!!! You only argue...because you do not accept another POV, you only agree because you accept another POV. There is ONLY YOU!!! Are you noticing this? Its all completely subjective. Any opinion you have, or have, or any POV has will always be subjective. Meaning= bias, pov=bias, which is subjective. To not have bias, is to lack all meaning and interpretation. That's it. That is the whole she-bang...nothing more nothing less.

Lol nah I don't take any of that serious because I already died and saw the veil behind the curtain. This just lets him know by their responses who has done the work or not. You do not live in an objective reality, your reality is subjective. Which means....the only way Leo can turn into an Alien...is if YOU imagine he does. Think of it like this... what determines if someone is RIGHT or not from your POV...? YOUR POV determines who is right or wrong, good or bad, this has always been the case...and it will always be the case. So if from your POV YOU determine the state of the world....then doesn't that make you GOD? So how can Leo turn into an Alien....unless you AS GOD imagine that he does? You constructed Leo....Leo isn't some other....he is a dream character, a thought within your mind. So unless your desire is to see him turn into an Alien....its not happening. It does actually....Love, Truth, and Intelligence are ONE. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-universe-is-not-locally-real-and-the-physics-nobel-prize-winners-proved-it/ These people won the Nobel Prize....for proving from the longest, most indirect path....what Non-Duality says. This discovery was made 5000 years ago and now they are patting themselves on the back....as if what they discovered was something NEW. The biggest puzzle is the building block of reality, what reality is made of. The only way to discover this is to be willing to DIE, drop all identity, and discover that everything is YOU. The most intelligent minds in human history couldn't discover this due to BIAS, which is a lack of self-love. If you haven't figured out...that the highest intelligence is the ability to see your projections...to notice your biases and thus be able to see the interconnectedness of everything....then I don't know what to tell you. By understanding Non-Duality...if you truly get it...you have become one of the smartest humans that has ever lived. Majority of humanity...is going to TAKE A LONG TIME...to awaken to the fact that they are dreaming their entire life. There is no discovery....more profound than this.

Come on Carl you are probably going to do that anyway....let's be real you are on this forum....by virtue of just interacting on this forum makes you already way smarter than any teacher you have in university...sorry to tell you but that my friend was inevitable. You are going to continue to have this problem because you are going to keep seeing all the lies in Academia. Its a sad realization of this work....you are just going to be deconstructing lies on the fly...even when you aren't even trying. Hang in there!! Also....you changed the color of your mushroom....I was so used to the green too. ^Why do yall think Leo can transform into an Alien on screen? Have yall not yet understood how this whole thing works yet? Just because from his POV he can change into an Alien doesn't mean from your POV you can see it. Have you all not yet realized that your POV...is the only thing that exists? If you met Leo...from your POV he is imaginary like everyone else. If you entered certain states....he would DISSAPPEAR....so would your human avatar. Also in other states....you could freeze time where he couldn't move from your POV but only you could move. In another state...you could put him in synch with you where he could only move when you move. There are even more settings you could tinker with if you want. So no he is not turning into an Alien from your POV...unless you imagine it for yourself that he can. Now from his POV he could turn into a Alien....but you couldn't perceive it....unless he could imagine you perceiving that he has turned into one. ^Chew on what I just typed.