Razard86

1. I know what the original term means but all you just showed....was lying. You can simplify gaslighting as lying. Now the type of lying is repetitive, and is done usually consciously but sometimes unconsciously to create a narrative that is self-serving. It is a narrative that paints the liar as virtuous and the recipient as unworthy, or less than. I already gave an example in my original post. For this to work, the recipient will have to have certain constraints. These constraints are a desire to be honest and accountable, a desire to be seen as honest and accountable, very forgiving, poor boundaries, and MOST OF ALL low belief in their own individual meaning creating capacity so they are willing to believe "they are wrong." Gaslighting can be attempted, but it rarely ever succeeds with people who are supremely confident about their meaning creating capacity (your ability to make sense of things/knowledge/interpretation/comprehension). And I am not saying an OTHER cannot succeed at either. I AM saying if you take complete authority over your ability to make sense of things the odds someone could effectively pull the wool over your eyes.....is ZERO if you never give your authority away. Now there are some moments you may have to give it away, to doctors for example, or mechanic, etc. But if you gain knowledge in those areas....their ability to BULLSHIT YOU...becomes less and less. We only get gaslighted when we think an OTHER knows better and give up our authority. So I am presenting the clarity...that if you know your stuff...how can someone gaslight you? They can ATTEMPT to gaslight you, but the act is nonexistent if it doesn't actually work. It needs to work for you to be gaslighted, but they can definitely ATTEMPT to gaslight you....to no avail.

You almost had it. The feminine perspective is this. Feeling is truth. So the Female Perspective says since I do not emotionally resonate with what is being said I don't agree with it. Men then try to use facts to tell the woman she is wrong, but that is not going to work. You have to emotionally validate to open up the communication for women who haven't integrated their masculine side yet. Now the interesting thing is.... Men do view feelings as truth...they just deny it subconsciously. Its really easy to spot though once you know how the whole game is played. I am very good at pissing men off by showing them that their feelings are truth just like it is for women and they delude themselves with hand picked facts and figures. But I digress...more men on average actually integrate their feminine. Why? Because for a man to actually get a woman and KEEP her he has to integrate his feminine, but the opposite is not always true, but it is changing because Modern Relationships are starting to require it but that is a whole other thread LOL. But yes the term gaslighting is really majority used by women....some men use it but mostly used by women. So this thread is going to trigger more women than men, though some men will become triggered by it. I'm sure each person in this thread has a deep dark story, that is associated with that word. I could explain how if you study modern society it actually is a culture/environment that encourages selfish behavior so all it did is increase the population of selfish people which created an upsurge in the study of narcissism and the widespread use of the term "gaslighting."

Why put You in the middle? Was that intentional or accidental? Also where ya been? I was wondering when you would show up.

Yep and its why I choose to block myself. Its a fun game, like shadow boxing, or racing my ghost on a racing game.

I'm glad you understand what I am saying. And yes I used that term specifically because I noticed how it was being used and weaponized on this forum and other places. So I wanted to show that there is a HEAVY IDENTIFICATION with that word which also means that there is deep trauma associated with the word. Many people who use it must have some shadow work related to very selfish people in the past who they have not healed from. What they don't realize is they are carrying that pain and projectile vomiting onto the present whenever something triggers them and accuse others of being the cause of those repressed feelings coming to the surface. Does triggering feel good? HELL NO!! But....being aware that becoming triggered can bring to your awareness some unhealed pain...is GREAT for diving into some shadow work and integrating your shadow. This thread and this Spirituality Section is for that very purpose. I mean...we aren't playing games here right? We are here to do some real work!! Nothing I do here is out of ill will, those who accuse me of that...you aren't doing the work. Source: So even the people who troll are acting from good intentions. From their POV they are going after people who they think deserve to be trolled, or they are getting attention that they think in their environment they are being denied, and many other reasons. All for love. Doesn't mean you have to tolerate them but understand there actions are motivated by the same actions...survival. Anyway thanks Integral...maybe you can calm this thread down....and help guide it towards some clarity.

You just made my point, you are just here to railroad this thread and criticize and distract and are not adding anything meaningful to this discussion at all. All you are doing is claiming I am biased and when asked for examples...you provide none. NONE. So how can you even ask someone to improve or do better if you cannot even provide examples? You see? Do you freaking see? Reading your post is a waste of time because you cannot even provide constructive criticism!!! You really sat there and made complaints... WITH NO RECCOMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT? Do you see how hypocritical you are? How can you even ask for something... if you can't spell out what you want!!! You see its posts like these....that amazes me why you waste your time even writing comments. Do you want attention that BADLY? You actually cannot provide any constructive feedback? Not ONE... NOT ONE SINGLE ONE? My gosh....you know what? I'm just going to block you because from my biased POV you are a troll. Troll confirmed and blocked. Have a nice day.

I know you do, and I know you are trying your best and I am proud of you for giving your best effort to integrate your masculine. KUDOS to you, integrating the Masculine from the Feminine Perspective is TOUGH. The Masculine perspective is all about tough love, and accountability. But Tough Love also doesn't care about being nice. Being nice won't make sure the women in my life are prepared to handle adversity. I don't care about being nice I care about providing people with tools or perspectives they can work with. Now if we were to talk one on one I could sugar it up or butter it up if the bitter truth needs some assistance in digesting it. Trust me...if I could take the hits FOR YOU, I WOULD!!! BUT I CANNOT!!! So all I can do is point to the tool that we all know gets us out of depression. Depression =victim mindset. I've been there, more times than I can count in the past. And what eventually happens? After you finish licking your wounds, you realize you got to change your perspective to get yourself out of that rut. So what happens? You start to recontextualize your experience and start encouraging yourself and you start taking one step at a time. I'm offering a way.. to potentially never getting depressed ever again. I'm not saying its easy, its a skill, it takes practice, but it is definitely doable....but there is one CAVEAT. Your ego has to DIE!!! Outside of that....then its just integration.

It actually can solve the issue. You cannot be gaslighted if you understand that you are gaslighting yourself. I'll explain. The ego is constructed and maintained through its interaction with others. So if I am aware that I am creating others and that every single thing they say is equivalent to gaslighting, and every meaning that I say onto them is also gaslighting then I don't give away my authority. The main thing I am pointing to here is authority. You do not give away your authority for how you interpret reality. This is why it is important to fine tune your ability to read situations. The victim mindset is the ultimate gaslight, its actually an infinite loop of gaslighting that completely disempowers you. First you have to gaslight yourself to creates a self and other, then with the victim mindset you claim an other is hurting you. This creates a trap, which causes suffering and the whole spiritual path that many end up going on is to alleviate themselves of this suffering which they deny they are self-inflicting. So how do you escape self-inflicted suffering, by taking back what creates desire and aversion. You become conscious of that which you were unconscious before of, which is selfishly creating meaning through an infinite web of identities. The ego= Satan. So that voice in your head that keeps judging everything? Its the Serpent (Your thoughts/emotions) The Garden= Reality. It tells you to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil (Judgment). This creates the individual who is self-conscious, feels vulnerable (naked). So it clothes itself (denies its vulnerability, delusion which is denial of what is) in lies. Covers up its fear of vulnerability (death) and thus the fall of man. All I am pointing to here is to realize the serpent is you and to not allow that serpent to craft storylines that take you out of the Garden of Eden into the world of survival. But to stay in alignment in the Garden. T:L:D:R: Just craft storylines that you actually want to experience. If you want to get in shape. Speak and think in alignment. Don't blame circumstances etc. Always speak and think in alignment with the experiences you desire. Judge nothing because all judgment is delusion. You can create distinction just be honest that you are creating it, and it is for selfish purposes and not the absolute truth. That's it.

I use CAPS for emphasis, I could just BOLD the words but I like to use CAPS. Notice that your belief that CAPS is me not relaxing...is also a projection. A meaning you create that is only true from your perspective. From my perspective CAPS is fine.

I already know how to "handle" this I just refuse to do it because it is more ego games. There is a technique called Tactical Empathy which was created by Chris Voss who is a former FBI Hostage Negotiator. The key to getting people to agree with you is to communicate back to them their world view, if you can do that especially if you can do it even better than they tried to do it, THEN AND ONLY THEN will they be receptive. Why? Because humans seeks emotional validation of their perspectives and only become receptive and cooperative when they believe the person they are communicating with GETS THEM! This is why businesses care so much about branding, and everything is about popularity or BEING LIKED!! Counter-Intuitively BEING HATED also works because you united the few people who like you (usually people who like to be rebels) with something or someone to fight against, and you attract attention because you draw a lot of HATE towards you. Since ATTENTION is the highest currency being liked and hated always keeps you in the spotlight. But since....I don't care about being liked even though I know the world runs on nepotism it paradoxically sometimes works in my favor because being highly hated also seems to give positive results. EGOS really love to hate after all. Instead of blocking or removing their attention from what they hate, they constantly expose themselves to it and blame it for making them angry. But who ever said reality was logical? LOL. And shame, yes it is a widely used social modulator that is so full of hypocrisy it is slowly losings its power daily.

^ You haven't pointed out one bias. Not one single bias. I could literally take your generalized comment and post it on any book review comment section. Because it doesn't make any points. It doesn't take examples or actually point to perceived bias...it just states...that is biased. This means your post is an emotional reaction...because you cannot actually give examples....also guess what? Every POV has bias, so pointing out bias...is irrelevant!! The point is to point out whether what is being stated as truth to it!! 1. You said I take the absolute truth and use it like a weapon? HAHHAHAHAH. Are you kidding me? Here is some absolute truth for you!! There are kids starving to death in Africa!! 2. There are homeless men and women commiting suicide because they cannot find food. There are sex slaves being sold into slavery RIGHT NOW and being gang raped by their captors. There are hired assassins killing families for money. There are corporations killing off animals in record numbers and we humanity could collectively being wiping out species we don't even know exist!! Absolute Truth isn't just some wonderful things to look at!! Its also flood, famine, and blood on blood survival!! But because you are BIASED against what is being presented, you attack me. Now with any actual points!!! You haven't made a single point!! And dogma? Where is my dogma?? Google search my posts and all you will see is ORIGINAL POSTS!!! Dogma would be regurgitation!! But please I welcome you to point to some Dogma. You won't find it. You will find recontextualizations. Also within Spirituality pretty much everything has already been stated. All that is being done...is bringing it with a twist. Again what I have stated here....HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID. You are just too attached to the word gaslighting. Which is exactly why I posted it here!!! But here is the biggest kicker!!! I knew by posting it...I would get people to commit the act that they defend exists!!! So here is a kicker....if you cannot provide evidence of your assertions....I could theoretically using your own personal definition accuse you of gaslighting me!!! LOL and I could play the victim!!! But....I won't!!! Because I can only gaslight myself obviously.

Your statement: What you don't realize is that you are coming from a particular perspective, but you have theoretically defined yourself as above everybody else that you communicate with on this forum. Notice how you have no evidence for this statement. How have I communicated that I am above everybody else on this forum when I have said this? That my POV is ego? Oh no Proserpina I have a completely and easier way to PROVE that your entire post is complete EGO. Here is two previous thread I made. Here are some key points I made: your greatest fear is to realize.....that you are full of shit....I KNOW I AM FULL OF SHIT!!! So figuring out what is going on with me is EASY!!! You will never be able to be honest with yourself and realize what is going on inside...until you realize....YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!! Its okay....because....everyone you ever met...even ones you admire are all full of shit!!!! Criticism, it is the ego's game to hide the truth. The most used method to silence the truth is to kill the messenger. Since most people do not believe in their own judgment, they first need to trust the messenger before they can believe in what the person is saying. But the truth has nothing to do with the messenger. Even the devil can speak the truth, the truth just is. If you come out and admit yourself to be a hypocrite, you have now discredited yourself. That which has discredited itself, cannot be discredited by others. So now whatever you say cannot be discredited, because you have already removed yourself from the equation by first discrediting yourself. But wouldn't others choose not to listen? Sure initially they may first ignore you, but over time repetition will win over. But what is even greater is now they won't rely on whether they like or respect you to accept the truth. Acceptance of the truth becomes THEIR DECISION, not based on some BLIND FAITH IN THE MESSENGER. By the messenger bringing themselves down to the common man in terms of virtue, the truth can now STAND ALONE! People have a problem with believing in themselves and so they concoct reasons to believe others are better, they aren't better they are just a unique expression. ^^^ So this has been a theme of my entire time on these forums. If you notice I actually encourage people that their POV and individuality is unique and special in that it is the only POV of its kind that will ever exist. You are just criticizing me because you don't like the message. So I will repeat what I have said earlier. 1. I am full of shit so who care about ME, focus on the message. 2. If the message bothers you emotionally ASK YOURSELF WHY? 3. If you don't like my posts BLOCK ME!!! I am full of shit remember? Why view posts from a bullshitter like me? 4. But...maybe something is being pointed to here, beyond the pain that you house within you. I have never stated that this message is easy. But Spirituality= DEATH. This is the process of removing identification...removing the concept of ME. When there is no ME, there is no victim. This process is VERY PAINFUL.

Well first of all why do you hate to say this? And of course...why wouldn't I know this? The truth is YOUUUUUU don't realize this. This is YOU telling you to stop running from the meaning you craft, the meaning you craft will either imprison you or liberate you. I selfishly desire liberation for you. May you be liberated by taking ownership of how you employ the tool of meaning. All POV is biased and egoic, therefore all meaning is delusion because it is limited. As a result, only craft meaning that can empower you, not disempower you. A victim is an identity of disempowerment. Also....what this thread discusses... as far as how meaning is crafted....can also be referenced in this video by Leo. Everything is just a pointer...I like to use pointers that shake people up because people think they understand.. BUT THEY DON'T so I have to use their blindspots to show them that they still don't get it. A lot of people would watch this video...and think they got it. Then read my thread and go bonkers. The Ego cares about survival, meaning is crafted for survival. Nothing I said in this thread...disagrees with this video. Notice your blindspot and attachment to that word.

When have I ever said my relative perspective wasn't ego? Go back and read my previous thread I already stated, MULTIPLE times that ALL relative perspectives are EGO. That they are selfish. NOTICE you didn't notice that....you ignored it....because it didn't fit the meaning you were creating. You filtered it out. You want me to link this? And again... Proserpina....I already proved it didn't exist using the ABSOLUTE. If it doesn't exist in the absolute...it doesn't exist in the relative. So if it doesn't exist in the relative...then what is the problem? All of you are purposefully blinding yourself to what God Realization is. It is the end of victim hood, it is the end of blame. What I am saying...ISN'T NEW!!! I am just pointing to it using a HOT BUTTON WORD that people love to throw around. Now notice...NOBODY had a problem when Rupert Spira says there is no personal responsibility...but when I say Gas Lighting doesn't exist....I get all this push back. Its so funny!!! Yall don't understand how deeply rooted your identity game is. All I got to do is use the word Gas Light....AND LOOK AT THE RESPONSE!!! If I used a different word...no response. If I parrot Rupert Spira...no problem. But I use this ONE WORD...and all hell breaks loose!!! So you say the same thing...but use a DIFFERENT WORD...WHICH IS AN IDENTITY!!! You all don't want to see, and thus you delude yourselves. Here is another pointer!! Regular good ole science says there is no free will!!! https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-will/480750/ So...who is gaslighting who??? If there is no free will? Notice I say the only free will you have is the meaning you ascribe to things...outside of that...the (ego) controls nothing. So...how can gaslighting exist...when even science is saying there is no controller?

I'm glad you noticed. 1. This is because you don't know what a reflection is. YOU just responded to me...so what is that? A REFLECTION. You complicate things because you don't understand. Right now...you are engaging in THOUGHT (amanen) with another thought (Razard) which is called REFLECTION!!! When someone tells you to reflect on that they are telling you to think!! What is happening right now? THOUGHT!!! THIS IS THOUGHT!! THIS IS THINKING!!! THIS IS REFLECTION!!! Instead of being so quick to critique... MAYBE YOU SHOULD REFLECT MORE!!!! JUST A THOUGHT!!!

Each moment...is just appearances....don't judge, don't identify. Just explore....any meaning you project onto it...will never be what it actually is. Just observe, play with it, but don't judge it. Why? Because then you will suffer...your interpretations. If you don't like it....then you won't be liking you....so you will be miserable. But if you like it....then you will be liking you and you will be happy. So you will rise and fall out happiness into misery and your life will be like a roaring tide. You are meaning....so when you judge something bad....you feel bad, you judge something good, you feel good. If you ever want peace, tranquility, observe without judging. If a judgment or interpretation arises....reply "That is not what is....that is just judgment." How can you judge that which is infinite? Do you know the stars control you? Do you know how all life in the universe that has lived and will ever live control you? Infinity is beyond past present and future. Which means past, present and future are ONE. If they are one....everything controls everything...if everything controls everything...there is no cause or effect. So every explaination...is just a subjective delusion of an illusion. Do you see? So why play this game with yourself? Meaning is a tool, a limited tool, use it as such. But no....you use this tool haphazardly and then you suffer your lack of skill and look outside yourself to blame an other. Its like a painter who paints a painting he hates....and looks around and asks "Who painted this?" How long...will you look outside....for something to blame? How long will you look outside for love? How long will you look outside? When outside and inside....are the same? The irony of how profound this game is....each POV you encounter is just your thoughts. So each POV reflects YOUR THOUGHTS. So when someone calls you ugly...that is YOU CALLING YOU UGLY!!! Do you get it? Events aren't random....THEY ARE YOUR MIND. YOUR LIFE IS JUST YOU TALKING TO YOU!!! Wake up!!! LOL. Really pay attention to what is going on in your life.....there are no OTHERS!!! They are you....engaging with YOU!!! Practice this mindset and you will start to see life is VERY interesting!!! When events happen I ask....what am I up to now? LOL.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. So on a topic of gaslighting here is the meaning that has been created. 1. Razard86,I think you're afraid of being human and feeling vulnerable, that's why you're so obsessed with bringing a nihilistic point of view into every interaction. 2. You misuse spirituality to hurt people. You're just being toxic. You don't communicate from a pure place of Love but from a very egoic place. 3. I suggest you, before you point out your fingers on others biases, to check your own biases first towards women, vulnerability, weakness, gaslighting and many other terms you use against people. Notice this? Off one thread look at the storylines. So apparently I am afraid to be human , I misuse spirituality to hurt people (who have I hurt? How would you define hurt? If I am hurting feelings...everyone hurts feelings you literally cannot live without hurting someone's feelings. Also now I am toxic, and do not communicate from a place of love but from ego. Do you see my point? ^^^LOOK^^^^ This is so obvious. Notice all the meaning being created....if meaning was self-evident...you couldn't craft so much diverse reactions. So here is the question....which meaning is true? You have some that agree and some say I am toxic, and biased, and I misuse spirituality to hurt people. So am I being a Devil....or am I speaking the Truth? Do you see? I thought meaning was self-evident why is there disagreement here if what I was saying was untruthful? Is it because...meaning is completely fiction and self-serving? Is it that meaning is designed around survival for an ego? Actually read this thread and notice the different responses. THAT SHOULD MAKE YOU ASK WHY DOES EVERY POV HAVE A DIFFERENT RESPONSE TO MY THREAD? Instead of defending your POV actually consider....that there maybe something more here going on....or you can just stay asleep.

It means you are so smart....that you are stupid. What does this mean? I'll explain....so I sat here asking myself what is meaning....and it struck me....I actually didn't know. I sat here and realized...that knowledge and meaning are the same thing...and that meaning and knowledge is that which we construct or build. But then I realized...that language....is a miracle. We take language for granted but we don't realize...that language actually doesn't make sense at all. I give you a list of symbols call the Alphabet in English. I then give you a ridiculous number of combinations of these symbols, and their sounds...change depending on how you combine them and then there are cultural contexts and situation contexts and the definitions keeps changing and there are accents!!!!! Do you not realize...how language is a freaking miracle? Do you not realize how complex and intelligent you have to be...to learn a language? Sit down and really contemplate this!!! You will realize...how stupid you are for thinking you are stupid!!! You have to be ridiculously intelligent to learn EVEN ONE LANGUAGE!! Language...is literally impossible!!! Its a freaking miracle!! You have no idea....how ridiculously intelligent you have to be....and you take it for granted as if its normal!!! This is PROOF you are asleep!! You are asleep on how ridiculously intelligent you are!!! Just mastering language alone... makes you a genius!!! But you are so smart...you are dumb and numb to how smart you are!!! Which is SO FUNNY!!!! Even you being numb to how smart you are...is itself a MIRACLE!!! Like how could you NOT realize how smart you are? I know....if you are walking in a world of other geniuses...you would think...you aren't smart. So your delusion comes from comparison...lol....its so funny how everything always comes down to comparison. A 6 foot tall man would believe he is tall in Japan, but drop him in the NBA and he is a midget. Oh...as they say comparison is the thief of all joy!! Oh and this entire passage....is proof that meaning can come from deconstruction as well since I had to deconstruct meaning...to construct meaning....to figure out that meaning....doesn't even make sense....even though to construct meaning...you are using sense (sensory perception) to create sense. So you use sense to create more sense. Which I've already pointed to in the past....but really ask what meaning is from your POV. I mean really dive deep and you will realize....you don't know. If you ask the age old question you asked as a Child Why does that mean that? You keep asking why....you will realize you don't know. This is proof when you were a child you were on the right track...lol your parents/guardians just kicked you off the track lol.

Exactly....you will discover...that meaning....cannot ever be spoken....we have never spoken meaning ever....meaning...is absolutely mysterious. The only explanation I can conclude its God recognizing itself through recontextualization like being in a hall of infinite mirrors and coming up with an interpretation.

Depends on which level you are discussing....from the absolute...life itself...is gaslighting. But to look at from the level you are asking it is both. Because first gaslighting has to be intential, a lie is only a lie when it is purposeful. You can't lie on accident, that is just ignorance. A lie is done knowing the information is false and given with full knowledge it is false. So yes if the party lies on purpose and the person believes it then yes they are gaslighting them. Gaslight is a term that likes to be attributed to reality. So for example if I am a giving person, and I tell you no and you call me selfish and I believe....maybe I am not giving enough? That would be gaslighting. If that person is someone you always give too and they don't give back at all or rarely and the one time you tell them no, they call you selfish. But you....being a very giving person don't want to be perceived as selfish so you agree with them in an attempt to not violate your identity as a giving person and give to them. So the person controls you out of your fear of being bad since you view not giving as bad and struggle to say "NO." Later on you BLAME them, and say they gaslighted you when in reality....you gaslighted yourself first. You know full and well you are a giving person and how can someone who is less giving accuse you of not giving enough? Its ridiculous right? But you....pursuing more and more levels of selflessness and denying your own selfishness because selfishness is bad....you give more than you are comfortable with. So you violated your own boundaries because you couldn't face your own judgment of being perceived as selfish. The secret is...EVERYONE IS SELFISH!! So if they call you selfish...the correct response is yeah and so what? You are selfish too!!! This is not a battle the narcissist can beat you in....if you really wanted to be cruel...you could list everything you did for them and how they don't reciprocate. But again...you won't do that...because "that's bad." You see? You judge yourself and the narcissist can control you because they don't give a damn LOL. True liberation...is to release yourself and others from judgment. Otherwise....you will either be a narcissist, or self-righteous. Which are polar opposites of the same coin.

^You are getting it!!! I am so happy!!! The point it to realize this...and take back ownership of how you use meaning....and craft a story and character (your ego) to your liking. Take full responsibility for how you use the tool of meaning. I don't consciously control the events that transpire...but I do control the meaning I ascribe to them. If you can see through the veil of the webs of meaning you craft...then you can finally be the hero you always wanted to be in your own original story. REALLY contemplate on what I am saying here. Deconstruct and recontextalize until you see life the way YOU want to see it, not how OTHERS are telling you to see it. Those OTHERS are just your own mind....you gonna let your thoughts run you? Or are you going to run them? You run them by controlling how you perceive them. You can perceive everything as good, bad, or neutral. THAT IS YOUR CHOICE. THAT IS WHAT FREE WILL IS. THIS IS WHAT LIBERATION IS!!! Because you recognize what true freedom is, its the freedom to view things how you desire. Most people use meaning unconsciously and compulsively, choose to do it consciously.

Listen to what you just said...you said the absolute POV is correct but its not valuable? Is it that its not valuable....or are you assuming its not valuable? Here I will show you how you aren't being creative with it and thus do not see its value. 1. If you create meaning...if you are TRUTH, then you can train yourself to create meaning that is beneficial to what you desire. So for example...why is rejection HARD? Its hard because we create that meaning that rejection is hard. If you can become AWARE through practice...that YOU are creating suffering. Then you can overcome your fear of rejection. So explain to me how learning how you create meaning, and then controlling the meaning you apply is not VALUABLE? THERE IS NOTHING MORE VALUABLE THAN THIS!! WHY? BECAUSE YOU CREATE VALUE BY CREATING MEANING!!! 2. Value= Runs your life because your life is totally encased and encircled around survival. The problem is majority of that value you create haphazardly and you apply it unconsciously and as a result you become TRAPPED by the meaning and value you create!!! Why do you think people feel unworthy or not good enough? Because THEY CREATE THAT MEANING. They become victims of their ability to create meaning, and then craft beautifully and ingenious storylines as to why that meaning is CORRECT!! So you suffer your own ingenious intelligence as to why you are unworthy or not good enough!! Do you not understand what I am presenting here? I am presenting you with the possibility...to control meaning...and to use it as a tool with your awareness instead of falling asleep and using it like a drunken writer who writes stories that he hates!!!

I have to give my authority away to be gaslighted...also....the "person" who do it...WAS ME!!! LOL!!! If a person took a psychedelic right now...and was conned by a DMT elf, they would just laugh it off....but when it happens in "reality." They play the victim. Look if people want a survival based, relativistic response: Here is one....don't just give your authority away to anyone!! Obviously we do live in an interconnected world so sometimes you have to give it away to things like Doctors, Mechanics, Pilots, etc. But never BLAME them because YOU gave your authority away. I am not saying don't hold them accountable for their actions....but what action preceded their action? YOU giving them your authority. We hold CEOs responsible for business decisions that cause your investments to fall, why? Because that CEO represents the authority of the business. Treat your life like a business, you make decisions...the BUCK STOPS WITH YOU. This entire thread is called SPIRITUALITY and this forum is created on a site called Actualized. Org by Leo Gura whose signature is YOU ARE GOD YOU ARE LOVE. YOU ARE INFINITY. YOU ARE LEO. If this doesn't even wake up ....I don't know what else. Here is a mindfuck for you...when Leo tells someone he is going to ban them, he is TOTALLY AWARE he is talking to himself. In modern culture...we like to claim someone is insane for say talking to a wall and thinking it is a person. Right now...you are GOD...talking to yourself and SEEING OTHERS!!! So....God....is insane....you see? You can twist and turn this however you want. Why do you think Leo was able to request to see what Insanity was? Because God is insane. Your POV are too scared to be destabilized and because of that limitation...you will suffer that limited perspective. This is also proof you don't want to expand your POV...you just want things to go your way. The funny thing is if that happened....it would BORE YOU. Like playing a game that is too easy, or watching a movie you have seen before. LOL. Oh the irony...you really don't understand your subconscious mind (reality).

^ Speak for yourself my dad and my ex were narcissist. According to the definition of the word....the great thing is...this is how I learned what I am sharing with you. Have you not learned that narcissists are parasites? A parasite infects its host, so what happens when one is traumatized by a narcissist? THEY BECOME ONE. They start projecting their PAIN and SEE narcissism EVERYWHERE. They go around accusing EVERYONE of gaslighting them. A tell tell sign of a kind person being traumatized by a narcissist is they go around throwing the word gaslight around as if it was some greeting. The MOMENT ANYTHING triggers them they use the word gaslight. If you do not realize or notice what I am telling you....you will suffer what many call narcissistic abuse...from a "victim" of a narcissist. Narcissists create more narcissists by turning those who engage with them into fatalists full of resentment from past hurts and they see the whole world as narcissistic. Its why forgiveness is so important. But ultimately...all of this is a game. I can even deconstruct what I said above and make it very simple. 1. Has anyone ever existed outside of your sensory perception? NO. So if you cannot see me, hear me, touch me, I don't exist. So my existence or lack thereof is entangled with your senses....which means I AM YOUR SENSORY PERCEPTION. So if I am your sensory perception...then who is traumatizing who? 2. Are you going to accuse your sensory perception as AN OTHER? All OTHERS, the entire WORLD, is just your sensory perception. So WHO is traumatizing you? WHO IS HURTING YOU? You are dreaming things through sensory perception, pretending that you are not, getting lost in your senses and crafting storylines of pain, and drama, and a whole lot of other things. But your entire life is JUST SENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. So...based on the premise that everything is just sensory perception....when you are in DEEP SLEEP is their sensory perception? NO! So what is life? It is just a projection of sensory perception UPON DEEP SLEEP. So you have the less stable sensory perception called a dream, and then the waking dream you call life. But they are BOTH just sensory perception being projected onto DEEP SLEEP. So....if your entire life is just your PROJECTION....then you are ALL ALONE DREAMING....SO WHO IS A VICTIM? You see I could have been kind and allowed you to keep crafting narratives, but sometimes the greatest kindness is the bitter truth. YOU ARE ALL ALONE, DREAMING UP THE ILLUSION OF OTHERS WHO ARE YOU AND THEN PLAYING VICTIM. You have created a nightmare and I, WHO ARE YOU am telling you how to wake up. This means....you are RESISTING YOURSELF who is giving you pointers on how to wake up. The choice...IS YOURS.

Gaslighting is an identity game. The belief in gaslighting is itself gaslighting. Anyone that believes in it, will be guilty of doing it. Those who defend its existence do so because they enjoy playing the victim and haphazardly throwing the term around. If you find yourself using this word, it's because you seek emotional validation from others. Requiring others to give you emotional validation when it means them being dishonest about their own emotions is itself asking the person to gaslight you. You can only be gaslighted if you engage in it yourself.