Razard86

Well I am glad you feel this way.

Yes my friend!!! I'm glad you recognize what is going on here!! I resonate the same!!! Tired of playing these little ego games, but reality must experience every possibility....so here we are being thrusted forward towards death and rebirth on all levels....for all of eternity. But here is something counter-intuitive that I discovered!! Once you realize what is going on....you realize...the game is actually trying to help you!! I had a rough day two days ago and I prevented myself from projecting any type of meaning. Do you know everything just magically worked itself out? No it didn't happen at the pace I wanted it too, no it didn't happen in a way I could predict. But it DID, just happen. So this can be seen from different angles...as all things can.

Its not I am becoming like Leo. Any Spiritual Teacher would tell you, who are you saving....if everyone is you. Also you called Leo a coward....Julian..Julian. Would a coward do this? https://www.youtube.com/c/ActualizedOrg/search?query=Leo 5 MEO DMT Let's not play this game. You are playing another identity game. You believe you are a coward, and since you love Leo....you project that identity onto him as well. Well if you believe you and Leo are both cowards....you too should go take 5 MEO DMT and tell the world on Youtube that you are God. If Leo doing THIS...isn't putting himself in harms way I don't know what to tell you. Do you know he gets death threats also? Please explain....how a coward....would do any of these things? You apply a lot of labels to Leo...but coward....is one that doesn't actually apply. Here is another thing that Leo did. This ^^^ is dangerous!!! It can break your grip on reality and possibly drive you insane. When Leo first took 5 MEO DMT he said it scared the shit out of him and he had to take a break. Later on...he overcame his fear...and was willing to attempt to take it everyday for 30 days. IS THIS WHAT A COWARD WOULD DO? Then there is this. Look at his bad trips? But there is also more!!! He has taken EXPERIMENTAL PSYCHEDELICS ALSO!!! And also recently he admitted to almost dying from experimenting with a NEW PROCEDURE!!! He also asked to experience insanity through psychedelic use as well!!!! Again...does this sound like a coward to you? Leo is many labels...coward....is a hard one to apply to him. Now....all of this...is utterly meaningless and purposeless because LEO IS YOU!!! But hey.... I didn't think you thought so less of yourself to believe him to be a coward. Let's not try to force people...to fit our preference of how they should be. Leo is as he should be...and so are you.

Not sure why you feel sorry, your apology is not going to prevent triggering from happening. It just happens, and has absolutely nothing to do with you. I once came across a girl who got triggered by cartoon characters as she sees them as scary. When someone gets triggered by something you say it has everything to do with them and nothing to do with you. You just got called a jerk and nothing you did....fit that label. Notice....only one person called you that and felt that way. That means...that person constructed that entire meaning....themselves. So how can you be a jerk? When only one person thinks that way? You write enough threads....you'll be called a jerk a lot more LOL. You keep apologizing every time someone gets triggered you will be apologizing for everything. Outside of direct personal attacks and threats, you are good...also notice....that person made a personal attack....they called you a jerk. LOL. So who is the jerk....the one who is interpreted as one...or the one who calls one a jerk? Who knows?......

Here is your answer. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-009 This also...pushes the dagger further in as well. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-016

Integral I love your POV and I know you mean well but my goal is not to be inviting at all. Many people on this forum are too afraid of conflict, which is a bias. Conflict is built in for a reason and is inevitable. Once you realize the purpose of conflict, then you understand its beauty. There is a lot of FEAR on the forum, and as a result people do not realize the dangers of this work. Since I have experience them firsthand I am not going to sugar coat anything. This sums up the aspect of Infinite Love that this forum is suppressing. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-006 Once you TRULY get THIS what is being stated HERE, THEN you will realize why there is so much fear attached to what I post. Notice how you were able to clearly understand what I was saying. That means my delivery and style wasn't the issue. The issue is....preference. Do you want me to tell you your foot is bleeding and I need to chop it off? Or do you want me to tell you your foot is made of chocolate and we are just going to gently remove it to add some caramel? Same message....one gives the brutality of what will be experience, the other gives you a false impression of what is about to be experienced. Go back and read this thread by a certain user. Did he know what he was getting into? Probably not. Sure everything is love, but unconditional love is REALLY LOST ON PEOPLE. It is EVERYTHING!!! It loves trauma, torture, hell, rape, incest, genocide, the list goes on. I am not here to sugar coat anything. I am here to give as accurate a representation of Spirituality and what it entails. If I am hated, I don't care lol. Hate me, BAN ME, but you will never be able to say, I didn't speak what I saw was true!!

You are swimming around in the infinite dealing with many POV. As you travel on this journey you will realize that certain POV are only there to distract. Once you realize this, then you take the appropriate action. I use too, never ignore and take in all points of view, at a certain point...it just repeats itself on end. In the words of Allan Watts once you get the message you hang up the phone. I have realized that at a certain point in life you have to cut out all distractions, and each step is along that journey. Also....me telling people to ignore me...is not me experiencing too much heat, are you noticing...I am telling them...if they have a problem...why not fix it? 1. I have no agenda...I am telling you to ignore me, someone who has an agenda wants to be heard. Here is a kicker...if everyone on the forums ignored me right now...I would still post what I am posting....in fact here is proof. HEY EVERYONE IGNORE ME!!! DON'T READ ANYTHING I POST!! BLOCK ME COMPLETELY!!! GIVE ME NO RESPONSES AT ALL!!! How's that one for you? But guess what...they won't....that's just how reality is. 2. If all you see is agenda....and do not understand. That everything isn't about agenda....then that is what your reality reflects. But I can tell you what my agenda is....its to align myself with Infinite Love from my POV. That's it!! Nothing more, nothing less!!

You can't help but trigger people, triggering people is not your fault its theirs. But yes its really simple and only appears to be complex, but how it pulls off the illusion of complexity is very elaborate. But you are correct, its utterly and completely simple, with an illusion of complexity. Those who are unable to see the simplicity its through no fault of their own, when its their time to realize it, then its their time.

Such honest expression here. ? I love it!!

What worked for me is totally deconstructing all meaning and purpose. You do it enough and you will see it for what it is. All meaning and purpose is complete fabrication and lies. You need to practice deconstruction until you cannot be fooled. Once this happens the ego will become visible. You will see that it is just an illusion of patterns, processes, habits, preferences, etc. You will also become aware how you identified with them. You will also understand what love is from both the finite and infinite. There is no free will because love gives up its free will to become an identity. The only freedom as such is no identity. When you realize this you realize you were always free because identity was never real, you constructed/created it.

It will, but it seems he is looking for a direct path. All paths lead to truth inevitably because everything is truth, it's just in a dream of denial of what it is.

You are the oracle, you just decided to create me to be on the receiving end to experience what that was like. Thank you for creating me.

Yeah I believe the thread title still appears but you cannot read their posts unless you remove the ignore function. It's a nice system, it's quick and specific.

Lol stop creating me.

Question your entire identity. Ever single thing you identify with and ask yourself what it is. Just understand if you go deep enough you are going to die. Utterly and completely. This is dangerous work....it's your entire existence. Are you really okay with this process? Don't push further unless you don't care about anything but the truth. If you still care about being safe and feeling good then completely ignore everything I just said.

Completely deconstruct your mind until "you" don't exist. A psychedelic is a tool, an enhancer, it doesn't replace the actual work. The work is deconstruction, and keeping an openness to the absolute. But the great thing about all this is you have no choice in the matter as long as you believe in a "you."

^Told you, you are a genius. As you continue down this path you will become so conscious you will be aware at all times how you and others construct meaning. I wonder how you will feel when you truly realize from the highest level what is going on from a baseline state. Keep it up, maybe you will write some books on the topic or just share with others how this POV thing works. I really hope this forum raises in their ability to notice how we are creating story lines through our interactions with each other and use that realization to personally empower themselves.

You are just creating meaning, that disempowers you. Your POV is very valuable as to how powerful your ability to construct meaning is. Hell is a construction, and Heaven is a construction all in your mind. Life is a canvas, and you can construct whatever you want.

Yes.....focus on that. That is the absolute truth, and will lead you to be more aware of how you construct meaning/storylines/interpretation.

https://thepsychologygroup.com/gaslighting-how-to-recognize-it-and-what-to-say-when-it-happens/ Read this article and notice that the definition for this term is vague, and it accuses another of "making" you doubt your reality. Notice the sneakiness involved in this term. Here is a kicker for you....and it will blow your mind. An OTHER has never gaslighted you EVER. The truth is YOU GASLIGHT YOU!!! Gaslighting is a term that EGOS love to use, to play the victim. If you ever accuse another of GASLIGHTING....in that moment YOU ARE GASLIGHTING YOU!!! The irony!!! But you may say.....I don't believe you!! Right now I FEEL THAT YOUR STATEMENTS ARE ITSELF GASLIGHTING!!! Of course you do!!! Because anytime you become unsure you must BLAME AN OTHER for those FEELINGS!!! Gaslighting can be summed up in one small phrase "When through an interaction you feel that your feelings (emotional state) is not being validated (agreed with) which is basically what compassion is (emotional validation). So basically when someone is not in alignment with your SUBJECTIVE (SELFISH, BIASED) world view...you accuse them of GASLIGHTING YOU!!! I can deconstruct this on SO MANY LEVELS!!! SO I WILL BECAUSE ITS FUN!!! The Intellectual Level: We interpret things from our selfish desires. So let's say a man wants to save money but his female partner wants him to spend more money. If she is able to dangle the potential for sex to get him to spend money and then denies him sex later on he will accuse her of GASLIGHTING HIM when she not only turns him down but says its his fault that he spent the money and not her. Why does he accuse her of GASLIGHTING? Because he doesn't want to own the fact that he only violated his desire to save money, because he wanted sex and he is only mad because he didn't get what he wanted. Now did she GASLIGHT HIM? YES!!! But guess what? He also is GASLIGHTING HIMSELF!! He is acting like he isn't playing the same game she is, which is trying to get what he wants, he just got outplayed!! Now he might say....well I was trying to play a WIN/WIN game and she is trying to play a WIN/LOSE game!! Again that's just your selfishness. Who are you to tell someone HOW they should play the game of survival? Why should they trust that your perspective of WIN/WIN will fit THEIR perspective of WIN/WIN? How do you know that their perspective of WIN/WIN isn't WIN/LOSE? You might reply well that is just selfish....to which can be replied....so is your desire for them to agree with your POV. That too is selfish!! Emotional Level: You have a hard day at work and want your husband to listen to you talk about your feelings. So he does. But then you want him to give his opinion on the matter and initially he resists. So you push him until he gives his honest opinion. But his honest opinion to you seems so cold, logical, and not warm and you desired a response that was more caring, nurturing and supportive so you accuse him of GASLIGHTING YOU. Did he gaslight you? If he gave his honest opinion...NO!!! In fact...him telling you what you WANT TO HEAR (which is compassion) IS GASLIGHTING YOU. How so? Because he would have to gaslight himself first (lie to himself about what he really wants to tell you) then present the "tell her what she wants to hear so she will stop nagging me" message that he knows will get her to be happy so he doesn't have to be bothered. But what you don't realize is when he does this.....he is GASLIGHTING YOU and HIMSELF!!! He is denying his own reality...to tell you what you want to hear, which means he is both gaslighting himself and you at he same time. But because this is a message you WANT to hear....you don't take it as GASLIGHTING you take it as confirmation that YOU ARE RIGHT!!! This is why echo chambers....are such easy traps to fall into. So what does this mean? The moment you assume an OTHER is GASLIGHTING YOU, THAT IS PROOF THAT YOU ARE GASLIGHTING YOU!!! The only one that has ever gaslight you...IS YOU!!! Gaslighting is the game of VICTIMHOOD!!! It will always allow you to NOT TAKE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR OWN EMOTIONS, THOUGHTS, AND ACTIONS!!! It is a get of jail card to never take responsibility and to continue to be the GOOD PERSON and OTHERS ARE BAD. The irony is...the more you accuse others of gaslighting you....is actually evidence....of how often YOU GASLIGHT. What is gaslight? Just another word for SELF-DECEPTION!!!! As long you deny that YOU ARE SELFISH, and are just in a world where the game is selfishness then you will always GASLIGHTING yourself and others! There is only one gaslighter, one conspiracy, one devil, one trickster, and that ONE IS YOU!!! This identity game is a game of DENIAL!!! And you LOVE TO DENY!!! Its like the game of tag NOT IT!!! You are constantly tagging others and saying NOT IT!!! But who are you tagging? Everyone is you....you are ALWAYS IT!!!

HAHAHHAHAA So much projection in this!!! Look at all this, NOW I AM a gaslighter? This entire thread makes my point!!! Notice how everybody is creating their own definitions from their POV of what gaslighting is!!! So from integral's perspective I am not gaslighting, but from breakingthewall's perspective I am gaslighting. So which is it? I thought this was an OBJECTIVE term people!!! Are you all so asleep you cannot see what is being pointed too? Read through the thread again...notice how off one post...comes so many different interpretations!!! Notice this!! So the question if you are trying to grow is WHO IS RIGHT? Look at it objectively. If you really pay attention you will see that each POV is just doing what most POV do, they interpret information based on how it relates to them. THAT'S IT!!! Because if that was not the case.....the meaning being crafted would be the same....or at least very similar. BUT IT ISN'T!!! Everybody is reacting and seeing DIFFERENT THINGS and then interpreting it differently!!! THIS IS HOW YOUR ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN RUNNING!!! You don't live in an objective reality, you live INSIDE a subjective reality, that is created through the MEANING YOU CREATE. This is why two people can live in the same house with similar circumstances, but their world view can be completely and utterly different. No two people internalize the same experiences similarly. What can traumatize one person won't traumatize another and vice versa. But I love the reactions in this thread....you could do a case study on how each person reacted to this thread and their varied responses....this entire thread...literally made my point for me....and I didn't have to do a thing. This thread is a mirror to exactly my point.....and things went exactly according to plan. So for anyone who isn't interested in emotional drama, but is ready to take responsibility for how they interpret reality....here you go. A gold mine of examples of how you may act in your life given to you by all the POV. You can actually see how you may react sometimes by looking for similarities to how people reacted to this thread. This is a fun game you can play with yourself on checking how you react in moments that don't go the way you want them too. Little extra seasoning (from a previous thread I wrote: Many Men will say things like facts don't care about your feelings, this is true, facts don't care about your feelings, but guess what? Your own feelings have never cared about facts. Not a single time in your life has your feelings ever cared about facts, or evidence!! It will only look for facts...to buttress (support) its feelings and nothing else. But if the contrary is presented it will be ignored.

I'm glad you are seeing what few can. Yes those "differences" are distinctions/labels to which we concoct meaning/storylines. When you start to notice what you are doing by habit unconsciously and how it influences your life....you can use it consciously and take back control of your perspective and how you are shaping it. We only suffer our perspective. The more we control it, the better and more peaceful the experience.

I really don't understand...why you are the only person who gets it? If I had my leg chopped off and I wanted to enjoy life. I have one of two choices. I could train my perspective to see it in a way that can bring me some joy, or I can see it in a way that makes me miserable. All I am saying is meaning is a creation. Nothing I am saying...hasn't been said before...and yet many on this forum are so addicted to their own original meaning...that they deny alternative meaning actually exists!!! How do you think racism started? Someone had to construct (create race) then demonize others for not being a certain race, then discriminate against them for it!!! We construct meaning all the time, and then think the construction actually exists!! It doesn't!!! That's why every situation can be looked at from infinite perspectives!! I just showed that you can construct a perspective....where it doesn't even exist. Your feelings reflect your perspective, and your perspective is built off the meaning you create. Everything I say is self-explanatory...and notice all the people in this thread...only criticize, make no actual points, and then spend the entire time making arguments I never made. Now what is the terminology they love to use for people who act like this? Oh my gosh....could they be guilty of the term they love to use so much? Could people who are attached to the word....become the word itself? I wonder.....who would have thought???

You didn't read because you prejudged what I was writing, I already described gaslighting from multiple perspectives. In my first post I already laid it out, how many pointers do you want. Gaslighting is lying, its lying that is described as making someone doubt their reality. I already stated step by step how they do it, WHY they do it, and how one can overcome it. Notice that instead AGAIN of pointing out where what I said could be wrong...YOU DON'T DO IT. Instead...you say... I'm not reading the rest of that. That's like my reading the foreward by a book and the first sentence of the first chapter and saying I know where this is going. And then writing a short book review. All I am seeing constantly is people who have no desire for critical thinking. You don't point out anything, you just react and make blank statements with no ability to make points. If you take issue with something POINT IT OUT. This isn't complicated at all. This is just proof that you want to stick to your POV because it is very easy to do that. Integral seems to be one of the few people here who understands what is being communicated. Oh and breaking the wall made some point about the Holocaust right? Maybe he needs to read about Victor Frankl. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Frankl Now what he is talking about isn't exactly the same...but its close. https://einzelganger.co/the-philosophy-of-viktor-frankl/#:~:text=The philosophy of Viktor Frankl could perhaps be summarized like,'” So Nice try. Again this is all about taking control on how you construct meaning. NOTICE how you use it haphazardly and unconsciously just not!! You didn't even read something, and then claim YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS!! Such a great use of the tool of meaning!!! Such skill!!! Such artistic mastery!!

^You understand plenty, the fact you can even understand my posts and the fact you are even on this forum speaks volumes. Intelligence is not just logic, it is also feeling. In fact feeling is a shortcut, you can feel the truth but not know how to express it in words. Some of the greatest most connected beings...are at a loss of words when it comes to expressing. You also do not need to know how to express it in words, to know how to express it in action. And thus you can be a LIVING WORD, a LIVING SCRIPTURE through your actions. So don't diminish your gifts, your POV is just as powerful as any other, and God loves you just as much as any other teacher. From my vantage point your IQ is VERY HIGH, higher than you probably realize.