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https://mashpoe.github.io/1D-Game/ There's also a video on youtube talking about it in depth. I found it rather interesting and it made me think about how other aliens or manifestations of consciousness (or even other creatures on Earth!) might be seeing the world in. Has anyone actually experienced the world like in this game through psychedelics or something similar? Would be very interesting to see people discussing this tbh

Yeah, I thought this. But I know of a Youtuber who seems to be ESFP but is very spiritual and explores ideas on what reality could be. Her name's Anna Campbell. I'm not sure exactly what prompted her to end up on the spiritual path but maybe it's do to with her history of psychedelics which she talks about.

Golden pairs are widely accepted to be good choices for relationships. Others say they work better as platonic relationships though. So an INTJ's golden pair would be with an ENTP (same two middle letters, different outer letters). The functions would be the same and in the same order except the e and i are switched around. One of my closest friends is an INFP, and it's not perfect but there's a sense of needing each other, I don't know how to explain lol. But him being very emotionally stuck in his world can be difficult to get into sometimes and he can be very stubborn about making the right choices to improve his life. I guess to get a golden pair relationship to work you need to be willing to accept the differences and also to see how that person's worldview can build on top of your own. The golden pair's other is also referred to as their shadow type if you follow the 4 sides of the mind theory (which I do somewhat).

I think the issue is that you as an ego self has no say in the matter, and most likely, you as God will have different desires. You'll get to experience reality through multiple forms, as well as human.

Probably the most dangerous consequence of Leo's videos is misinterpretation. It's already caused the death of at least a few people. This episode is especially prone to being misinterpreted so Leo did the right thing imo

Yeah I thought that's what you meant. It's like a worry that they won't be a good parent and they don't know enough of how to be a good parent that stops them most of the time, like they want to be the absolute best.The thing is though, their super friendliness with everyone can come across as just wanting to be friends with people when they actually want to date them, so they kinda need to learn how to tone down a little and go a bit more flirty like an ESTP might. I can't not have kids at this point with all the stuff I have learnt, both Actualized stuff and my personal growth and lessons learned. And let go of trying to make them perfect too!

Interesting. What do you mean by a high chance of reproduction? Genetics or something else? I do see Fe users as opposed to Fi as rare-ish, due to how life forms in general have a "selfish vibe" to them to ensure their survival (yes I know Fi and selfishness is a bad stereotype but there is a link). I'm not totally sure on the science of how type is formed but it might be growing more and more common as we evolve consciously and we don't need to fend for ourselves as much as we used to. @Yali yeah I would agree, function wise, but as I said, there's more to a person than functions and type. It would depend on other factors, maturity etc. and they may both value the same thing. I'm not sure how that relationship went or if it's still going, they might actually have got married IIRC. She's enneagram 4 too so not sure if that helps at all.

That's really interesting, I've not heard of Supervisor relationships before, but I've heard of golden pairs and a couple of others. Yeah I don't see that hanging around with a lot of your blindspot function is the best experience haha, although I've heard of ENFJ dating an INTJ and ISTJ before. There is of course many factors that dictate how well or not a relationship can work out.

Is this a good or bad thing for you? And would you say they are mostly healthy or unhealthy in your life?

I don't have any answer to your main question but when you said: From what I understand, we actually do choose to exist as a human while in the state of God and then we forget when we are at human state of consciousness. Have I got it somewhat right, Leo?

I would suggest reading up on other people's experiences, watching Leo's videos. That way, these potentially scary "truths" will only be stories to you. It should be way less overwhelming. I'm doing this somewhat myself, so when I go more into psychedelics it will be less of a shock to me than if i didn't. You could also leave spirituality completely for a while if you want. Just do what you think is the right thing for you.

I believe if you try hard enough you'll eventually get the answer. Watch Leo's videos on truth seeking and bias etc. and hopefully you'll eventually find true spirituality and become conscious of it and having no reason to question its authenticity.

I'd say the main theme is that they have no reason to be. Their life experience hasn't made them see any advantage of being open minded. There's also personality type which can make them lean more towards outer perspectives, or more towards sticking with their routines. And agreeing with what others have said, people hate being wrong. It's like it threatens their ego's existence. If you accept you're wrong about something, it's like you are admitting you are not seeing reality as much as you thought. You could have a million logical arguments for you being right about something and them being wrong, but if they care more about sustaining their worldview/illusion than logic they won't listen. We only get to see the world through our own experience anyway. I suggest not getting bogged down by other people's ignorance. It's a waste of one's energy if you did. You can of course try though.

Yeah in the personality type circles taking tests is very taboo, especially 16Personalities which mostly relies on using the Big 5 (which is probably what you used). My hobby (and potentially future career) involves studying the cognitive functions (and Leo's techniques on how to find out what's true have really helped). According to a recent study (icr how recent) ENFJs and ENTJs are the bottom 2 rarest type. Makes sense because they are both Ni users AND they are extroverts (cognitively speaking, but socially it's usually the same). It's not really a type to have a reason to be on this forum no, imo. I only discovered Actualized through an MBTI Youtuber who talked about Spiral Dynamics!

I do mostly agree with what you are saying. We have some very vulnerable people on here and we could do with avoiding making their problems any worse. But I'm not sure if this is really something that can be turned into a rule or be enforced? What we could do is support or defend people more and call out people who might be coming across as more harsh than they need to be. But if/when people need to be put in their place, that's good too. It's a fine line between those two tbh.

Yeah, Russia/Putin seems to be quite in the minority of the collective human consciousness, proved by how many countries are sanctioning them etc. Seems like a very Stage Red country, or maybe Covid has lowered Putin's stage to a Red-like phase, I'm not sure.

I think Leo was being very fair in the situation. I've only recently joined but I read the thread about him getting demoted and the PM screenshot. He was given a more than fair warning and chance to change but didn't seem to be listening to Leo's perspective at all. I don't doubt he's right with his answers but his posts highlighted would do little to help whoever is reading them for the majority of people on here, and he could even have been doing more harm than good. He might be a very wise and awakened person but his Spiral Wizardly game is/was very poor. I hope he's ok, seems like he was a very well loved person on here and that he eventually understood why he was demoted. A lot of people think this. I'd suggest researching what a cult is and how they work so you can answer this for yourself, including Leo's videos on them (I think one is about cult psychology and the other directly addressing Actualized.org being a cult or not).

Yeah that's definitely a good point! I haven't been here very long but I've lurked occasionally so I don't really know how many on here are conscious enough to like/dislike posts appropriately. Even with all of the rules trying to weed out the lower conscious/trolls there are still a fair amount who will probably downvote decent posts without a good reason.

It could only matter to the ego. God doesn't have these emotional reactions if it's all there is. And the idea if/when God feels lonely or bored (not sure if God is able to unless in the form of a finite form) then he can live life through a limited human/animal form to experience it. Most likely the idea of sollipsism is misinterpreted by the ego and a misleading idea of what is really is is formed in the ego mind. Maybe that would help people struggling with the sollipsism idea, idk. I haven't had a personal awakening of it though, just a disclaimer

I think in order to get to higher states of consciousness, you shouldn't only do things if you see a logical reason to or not. I'll imagine being in your shoes for a moment as I haven't quite had the mystical experiences as of yet, though just consuming others' accounts/arguments have occasionally given me an "OHHHH, OMG!" moment. I would suggest if I were you, to do what makes you feel good. Maybe for you, giving to charity without a logical reason (i.e. preventing them suffering) isn't something that would give you pleasure. Or maybe it is. How certain do you feel that they/their suffering exists right now? If you are very certain, you could try to donate anyway and see how you feel. Remember that the dream of life is very realistic, it's all we really remember and unless we're super enlightened we don't have a very vivid/memorable "view" of oneness to compare it to (like when we're dreaming, we compare it AFTER we wake up). As others have said, it's your dream. Doing whatever brings you further towards Love is probably going to be more rewarding though, even if it's not "real". Fooling yourself that the dream is real even though you know it isn't could help and make it feel less daunting.

That's such a cool experience! Thanks for posting. Who knows if it will actually have made a difference or not, but still, looks like it was very insightful for you.

Dude please be careful. Irresponsible use of psychedelics could twist your reality if you're not careful. If you want to know how bad things could possibly get for you, I'd suggest looking up Datura trip reports. I do admire your challenging approach to experiencing life though, but this looks like it's at the far end of the spectrum. Really consider if the potential consequences are worth the risk or not.

Yeah I could see that. I think health both physically and mentally can extend it. It just depends exactly how much stress of either of those things you're doing, which could actually make you live a shorter life.

What could be an idea is having some kind of upvote system for each thread similar to Reddit. I know voting and likes can get pretty ego-heavy and competition-like but it's a good way to get a consensus on what posts are higher quality or useful according to the majority on here. Also it would save people time browsing through a million threads a day and only finding 10 of them actually worth reading. Most of us I'd hope would rather people spend more time to work on themselves than read low quality posts written by people boosting their ego.

ENFJ here, and I know there have been other ENFJs lurking around here, which I wasn't expecting!