Arthogaan

For me this meme was more about the fact that when real spirituality starts amd your whole identity gets deconstructed there can be a period of existential terror, depression, dark night of the soul -> and in those moments sometimes you gotta smoke a cig man.

Both Free Will and Determinism are false because they both presuposses two unfindable things: 1. Separation - things predetermine other things. Or I can act upon other things. God is Self-Determined. 2. Time. There is no time therefore reality spontaneously appears this momement without chain of causation.

Angelo also speaks very clearly about this: https://youtu.be/Jc2hOTNpTbY?si=xvufZgwcrPxUTLFN

Highly recommend the movie: Perfect Days About toilet cleaner in Tokyo and his zen-like contentment. Beautiful movie.

But if we want to be very precise - would you agree that this is still refying Formless Emptiness into a noun, where in truth it is more like a verb or like a nature of anything that can be dreamt of? There is only dream-stuff. And nature of it is impermanence, emptiness - but that nature isn't in the background anywhere. There is no "behind the curtains". It's like Absolute Mind and it's contents - dream stuff - these are not separate right? It's not really like God/Absolute Mind dreams stuff out of itself, because that would suggest some stable Mind "behind the curtains" - The Mind and the Dreamt Stuff is pointing to the same Formless Empty Nature, they are not separate. Just like in a nightly dream when you become lucid - any Idea that it is happening in your Mind, in some stable background is just another Idea that is not direct experience - there is just dream stuff that morphs into different things and it's nature is Emptiness/Love. Would you agree with my train of thought?

Sitting in silence and. contemplating, exploring one's psyche, mind. Seeing patterns in one's behaviour. Using your imagination like a tripping tool.

In the past what helped me most was to skip breakfast and curb apetite with a little bit of stimulant (cup of coffee/nicotine gum). But now I no longer want to use stimulants at all so for me sadly (beautifully) it is deeply accepting hunger as part of being a human (at least part of being me while wanting to be lean). Meditation and going deeply into center of sensation helps.

Personal apetite varies a lot. I absolutely was gaining weight on both keto, paleo or mainly protein diets if I was not carefull about controlling myself. I lost and gained 10kg couple of times in my life and it never was possible without accepting being hungry most of the day. Not difficult for me to eat over 1000kcal of mostly protein in one sitting.

That is one of the best reports i've read. You put very nicely into words of how information access works/feels in those higher states. How much were you able to integrate this information access into daily life? How has it changed your daily life?

My whole life I felt a little bit out of place for how little social interaction I need to be happy. Yes there is a risk many people liking solitude are bypassing something. So you really have to be honest and look deep inside. But yes, there is a possibility that one's particular brain, personality is that of "lone wolf". I felt gaslighted for years by society, always feeling a little bit ashamed. And I remember some few years ago I watched netflix documentary "Chimp empire" about different chimps, apes, bonobos, gorrillas and their social interactions. It was mindblowing how they resemble human behaviours. And even among chimps there are less social individuals. But especially Orangutans are very solitary. They spend about 90% alone. Let's embrace our inner Orangutans for those that it genuinely resonates. Don't be gaslighted/conditioned into believing you NEED socializing BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMAN. Humans are so so complex and diverse. Genuinely check within what do you want. And don't get stuck in any end of the spectrum as your identity. One day you can be a social bonobo, another day you can be a lone orangutan. Lol. So I kinda want to defend @Leo Gura here. The message of "people are so important in life" or "happiness only true when shared" or "humans are social apes" etc. - you can find it anywhere, any family member will agree, any movie, it is engrained in our culture, it is the default. So it was very very valuable to hear Leo clearly speak about how much bullshit there is in socializing culture, and actually open a way to fully question it and actually think for myself regardless of culture. We rarelly speak how much unnecesarry suffering may be created for naturally solitary people feeling slightly ashamed of their introversion by the very harsh social default of our culture.

This is pure Gold Leo. One of your best post on the forum! So simple and so deep. Much love.

So in the total formlessness can there be pain at all? Or in it;s purest form God is so Formless that even the form of pain cannot arrise as something unpleasant.

God is so unbiased that he cannot have any aversion towards pain whatsoever? Can God even feel pain at all? Or he feels it but is so unbiased that it is not really pain to him?