Arthogaan

There should be some cool word for doing a movement inside the mind.

See that every thought that comes after "falling back" like: "Oh no, I feel like I'm the doer again" , " Oh, I was just lost in thoughts " . "Oh what can I do to comeback" "oh, how do i prevent this from happening" - all of those, are just another thoughts, and you just see them smile at them and let them go their way. Thoughts appear and dissappear like clouds. They are not your thoughts. Thoughts are not anymore yours than the clouds or the weather. Just see them and let them go.

Oh totally. Ultimatelly life is precious/life is worthless is just another duality. That was reaaaly freeint to me when I realized that 2 months ago. That "making the most of it" can be really specific to my tastes. So if for me that means chilling and not being anyone special, then thats it. You can make the most if this dream by fully accepting your true tastes. And maybe that is to just chill on a beach. Love yourself and do what you really want without any idea of societys expectations or some metaphysical expectations like "I shold get a lot of experience for my soul" or sth. Just do what you want. Haha isn't it awesome that you can do that? You can eat ice cream as your life purpose and noone will judge in the end.

These are good points. It's like thoughts and labels and categorization kind of come with the feeling of "meeh, I saw this kind of object a 1000 times already". So this is an artificial filter, and when you are fully without thoughts even the subtlest deepest ones, then reality really feel like looking through the eyes of a kid. Or on lsd. Or through the eyes of a kid that is on LSD. When it comes to you using your imagination, do you experience it like universe itself generates it? Because after the illusion of personal self is gone that's how it feel to me, that it's not even me imagining things, but this imaginative images just come here.

Click-baitish title, as I am still agnostic on the following topic. But I think the video that I will be referencing makes some interesting points and it would be great for Leo to make longer post or even video explaining his stance/response on this very thoroughly. Because that is really often debated on the forum ever since the infamous "Nobody on this forum is AWAKE" thread. And I feel it was never really fully addressed. The video: (It's not long but you can actually start at 7:40 as that's were the good stuff begins) Main Points: - the belief in a story that this is all a dream and that that story is an objective perspective that somehow holds truth outside of the dream is itself also to be confused about the reality of reality, - the realization that you are God is the same deal. There may be experience that everything is God, but that is more mind content. It is not direct contact with an objective mind independent stones. The same goes for everything is God/Love/Consciousness. The same goes for the sense that everything is Mind or a Dream or even Real, - so long as you're reliant on some felt sense of something within experience to give a clear reading of how reality is ontologicaly then you are just appealing to more dream content, - If it feels like something to perceive everything as One or God, and you base your belief in reality off of this feeling quality, then you lost lucidity, the same goes for feeling quality of dreaminess or realness, - the world is neither a dream nor real,

There is a 4% rule in FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) - so basically you can assume that it is possible to safely invest your savings and withdraw 4% of it each year and it will never run out. The other way of saying this is: how much do you spend per year? You take that amount and multiply it by 25 -> That's how much savings you need to not have to work anymore.

Yes I also can feel that. But even though part of me feels that it is a Buddhist paradigm, i still can't find inconsistency in it. It seems bulletproof. Any ground seems silly. Thanks brother. I have to say, the last 1.5 week was crazy. It started by "His Moistness" posting Roger's description of 5th stage of enlightenment, and something just clicked during walking meditation and all models are falling apart. Btw be prepared for my messages because Waterbytheriver is probably getting sick of my dm's haha.

Even if it is a dream then why wouldn't you make the most of it? It's all you have. Even if all of this is really just a block of cheese, still doesn't change anything, you can still make most of it. Even assuming externalobjecticve materialistic reality exists - then it still would be totally meaningless. Dream doesn't add meaninglessness. So make the most of this precious gift. The best game in town. Make your dream the best dream in the Godhead.

That was great!

I would say its both full and empty. Both real and imaginary. Like everything. As Roger Thisdell said: all of those dualities are category errors. Reality is neither this nor that, its a special third thing that cannot be named.

I guess "neither and both" is the answer. It's neither alive nor non-alive. It's neither permanent nor impermanent. It neither is nor isn't. Just like a hologram can be both fully allive, vibrant, inteligent but also in a way dead, still. Using materialistic metaphor: Just like a beautiful bursting flower opening itself at the start of spring is so full of life but also it's just made out of atoms that are empty.

2:53 "it's completely out of control!!!" ~ Leo Gura

Damn, that's a beautiful report. @Inliytened1 @Jowblob

Hmmm. Now that I think of it maybe suffering is not enough. Maybe it's something like being fed up with one's current way of being. Maybe Being fed up/will to change = amount of suffering * insight/inteligence Because for some people change is so scary that it actually in a way is more comfortable to stay in current way of being. Massaro says that if you don't change some behaviour it's because deep inside you still believe there is a benefit to that behaviour. Like for example some can subconsciously believe thst staying asleep and in suffering maybe is terrible but it ensures things like security, being understood and so on. So until the benefits of change outweight the scary parts like not being understood, going crazy - the person won't change. And for some it may be that not being understood, being alone, changing is scarier even than death. Also commiting suicide is just ego screaming for help. Sending a signal "look how much I suffered because od you world, so much that I'm going to kill myself".

Do you eat meat? Or anything other than fruits? Because if yes then it was a result of either murder in inhumane conditions (meat) or just theft from the plant. And now that I think of it, maybe you're right. Maybe that is the result of unconsciousness and we will as humanity be fruitarians at some point.

Yup, suffering and dissatisfaction is the fuel for the whole spiritual journey. In a positive sense it's the pull towards freedom/god/liberation. It's the same. All of buddhism is about reducing suffering.

How is that possible that in my 8 years spiritual journey I never heard of Daniel Brown - he seems phenomenal. All these techniques that he describes in a video- is it included in the book?

Thank you for such a detailed answer. Like really - Namaste I am maintaining that for most of the day. I would even say that it is my new default state after a shift I had 2 days ago. It is really obvious when I am walking or sitting or standing. But I am not sure what happens when I focus on some activity like checking my phone or reading something. Even writing these words I can hold the nondual visual field. But When I want to read something or I check my phone the focus collapses from panoramic to just the object of attention. And I am not sure how much separation is there when this collapsing happens. In a way there is just activity of reading happening without ideas of me doing it, but on the other hand when I come out of this reading activity there is a sense of "oh - i was not fully dissolved while reading". Any comment on that?

I love how we hijacked the Death-Thread with music.

We just like to party.

Tell me what you see In the afterlife Par-delà le ciel Par-delà le soleil In all there is to learn The sun is on our side And though you're on the run You will survive Expanded to the state of light The deepest corners of the world Gliding through the lowlands And swimming all the oceans Walking through the silence Already made it through the night There will be a new day Whenever the sun rises You're invisible You're in everything Tell me what you see Tell me what you see When you're everywhere When you're everywhere Tell me now Tell me now While you drift away from all the plagues of this world You're put out of misery, giant monster You won't have to face it again Every step of the way gets you higher All the voices trapped underneath the ground Let 'em all go in the sky Find the power lost underneath the ground Let it all blow in the sky All the voices trapped in my head Let 'em all scream in the night Find the power lost underneath the ground Let it all blow in the sky @Breakingthewall @Water by the River

This description of the 9th fetter by Frank Yang describes my experience of the last 2 days: """ 9th fetter is restlessness. Even after the Self/self is completely gone, there remains the debris of old conditions that are still operating, albeit mostly at the subconscious level now…manifesting themselves through very subtle beliefs, assumptions, and sensations that make you feel, in ways you can’t really point your fingers to, that things should somehow be different. And that there is something that you should be doing to course correct this misalignment. Unable to cling on to a self, these sensations from time to time “rise up” against the flow of life, thus making you believe that there exists versions of realities other than whatever is happening right now. You can still experience a little bit of suffering here. Although by this time your suffering level has been decreased by about 95 percent. """

Yeah, it's crazy how I used to skip through his posts but last couple of days I am seeing what he means and bookmarking him like crazy. Haha thanks brother