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Lol sure, its only 6/10 this version, I am hoping to release a full end to end ennegram -> pair theory -> tritype theory in the next 1-2 months, and then finally levels of health -> synthesized with wilber and hawkins work. This was a previous draft othe INTP I did the integrates development blocks, this is only the 2nd draft, once this is purified and nailed Ill then synthesize my work here with tritype. So Leo is a 548 INTP for example, his top romantic pair is a 712 ENTJ in that order. Ill post the 548 INTP with 9 levels of development from unconcious to enlightened so you guys can see how well it describes Leo, in 2-3 months: The INTP: Decoding the Logical Architect - A Mind of Intricate Design The INTP is a fascinating paradox, a quiet observer with a mind that never rests, constantly seeking to unravel the mysteries of the universe. They are the architects of ideas, the masters of logic, and the relentless pursuers of knowledge. Their world is one of intricate systems, intricate theories, and intricate thoughts, where their minds dance amidst a symphony of possibilities. Driven by an insatiable curiosity and a thirst for understanding, INTPs see the world as a giant puzzle waiting to be solved. They are fascinated by the "why" behind everything, dissecting ideas, theories, and systems to uncover their underlying principles. Imagine them taking apart a clock just to see how the gears mesh together, not to fix it, but to understand the intricate mechanics that make it tick. They excel at analyzing information, identifying patterns, and developing logical frameworks that bring order to complexity. They might spend hours lost in thought, researching obscure topics, or engaging in lively debates, their minds constantly buzzing with new insights and connections. Don't be surprised if you find them sketching diagrams on napkins, scribbling equations on whiteboards, or building elaborate mental models to make sense of the world around them. While their intellectual prowess is undeniable, INTPs often find the social world to be a more perplexing puzzle. They are naturally introverted, preferring the company of a few close friends or the solitude of their own thoughts. They might seem aloof or detached at times, not because they are unfriendly, but because their attention is primarily directed inwards, towards their rich inner world of ideas and analysis. Their preference for logic over emotions can sometimes create challenges in navigating the complexities of human relationships. They might struggle to express their own feelings or understand the emotional needs of others, often retreating into their analytical mind when faced with emotional intensity. Picture them trying to solve a relationship problem like a mathematical equation, searching for a logical solution when what's needed is empathy and understanding. Their need for autonomy and their resistance to rigid structures can also lead to friction in traditional settings. They might chafe under strict rules or hierarchies, preferring to work independently and at their own pace. Imagine them as a free-spirited architect, designing innovative structures that defy conventional norms, rather than a builder meticulously following blueprints. They crave intellectual freedom and might struggle to stay motivated when their work feels repetitive, mundane, or lacking in intellectual challenge. However, the INTP's journey is not a static one. It's a dynamic process of growth, integration, and self-discovery. As they mature, they learn to balance their intellectual prowess with their emotional intelligence, their need for autonomy with their desire for connection, and their love for ideas with the practical demands of the real world. They begin to appreciate the value of relationships, realizing that connection with others can enrich their lives and provide a sense of belonging. They might surprise you with their unexpected warmth and humor once they feel comfortable enough to let their guard down. They develop a greater capacity for empathy, learning to understand and express their own feelings more authentically, and becoming more adept at navigating the complexities of social interaction. They also learn to harness the power of their creativity, translating their innovative ideas into tangible solutions and making a real-world impact. They become more organized, more efficient, and more adept at implementing their ideas in a practical and effective way. They might even discover a newfound appreciation for details and routine, finding satisfaction in mastering a specific skill or craft. The enlightened INTP is a force to be reckoned with - a brilliant mind paired with a compassionate heart, a visionary leader who can inspire others with their insights and their dedication to creating a better future. They are the architects of progress, the champions of knowledge, and the quiet geniuses who, through their relentless pursuit of understanding, help us to see the world in new and profound ways. Their legacy is one of intellectual brilliance, insightful innovation, and a quiet but profound dedication to making the world a more fascinating, efficient, and insightful place. Part 1: The INTP Overview - A Portrait of the Analytical Mind Core Essence: The INTP is a quiet observer, a deep thinker, and a master of logic and analysis. They are driven by a thirst for knowledge, a passion for understanding complex systems, and a desire to create elegant and efficient solutions. Their minds are constantly buzzing with ideas, and they are happiest when they are exploring new concepts, dissecting theories, and building frameworks for understanding the world around them. Temperament: The Rational (NT) Berens identifies the INTP as belonging to the Rational temperament, a group characterized by their love for knowledge, competence, and understanding. Rationals are drawn to complex systems, enjoy analyzing information, and seek to improve the world through innovation and strategic thinking. Interaction Styles: The "Behind-the-Scenes" Analyst Behind-the-Scenes: INTPs are generally "Behind-the-Scenes" in their interaction style. They are quiet, observant, and prefer to work independently, valuing their autonomy and freedom to explore their ideas without distractions. They value accuracy and thoroughness in their communication and might be hesitant to speak up until they have carefully considered all angles. Informing: They use an indirect and collaborative approach to communication, preferring to share information, involve others in the process, and build consensus. They are less assertive and more focused on providing context and facilitating understanding, seeking to engage others in a thoughtful and logical dialogue. Responding: They are more comfortable responding to others' initiatives than taking the lead. They prefer to observe and reflect before contributing their thoughts, taking time to process information and formulate their responses. They are good listeners and are often able to provide insightful perspectives when they do speak up. Structure: They are drawn to the structure of ideas and systems, seeking to understand the underlying principles and frameworks that govern the world. They enjoy analyzing complex systems, identifying patterns, and creating logical models to make sense of information. They are meticulous in their thinking and seek to ensure their understanding is accurate and consistent, valuing precision and clarity in their own thinking and in the thinking of others. Pragmatic: They prioritize their own need for intellectual stimulation and autonomy, often pursuing their own interests and goals, even within a group setting. They are less concerned with social harmony or pleasing others and are more likely to challenge authority or tradition if it conflicts with their own logic or understanding. They might come across as detached or unconcerned with social niceties, as their primary focus is on pursuing their intellectual interests. Outcome: They are driven by the why of action, prioritizing the achievement of a desired outcome or result. They focus on the bigger picture and the impact of their actions, seeking to understand the purpose and meaning behind their endeavors. They are not content with simply doing things; they want to understand the underlying reasons and the potential consequences of their actions. Cognitive Functions & Archetypes: 1. Dominant Function: Introverted Thinking (Ti) - The Logical Mastermind Archetype: Hero Expression: Introverted Thinking (Ti) is the core of the INTP's personality, their guiding force, and their primary lens for understanding the world. They are driven by a deep desire for internal consistency, logical coherence, and a thorough understanding of principles. They excel at analyzing information, identifying patterns, and developing logical frameworks to make sense of complex systems. Manifestations: Analytical Depth: INTPs are deep thinkers, constantly seeking to understand the "why" behind everything. They are fascinated by complex systems and theories, and they enjoy dissecting ideas and concepts to uncover their underlying principles. Precision and Accuracy: They value precision in their thinking and communication, striving for clarity and accuracy in their language. They are meticulous in their analysis and are careful to avoid logical fallacies or inconsistencies. Independent Thinking: They are fiercely independent thinkers who trust their own judgment and rely on their own internal logic to guide their decisions. They are not easily swayed by external opinions or authority figures, preferring to arrive at their own conclusions through careful analysis and reasoning. Problem-Solving Prowess: They are natural problem-solvers, able to identify the root cause of an issue and develop creative and effective solutions. They enjoy the challenge of tackling complex problems and are often able to see solutions that others overlook. 2. Auxiliary Function: Extraverted Intuition (Ne) - The Nurturing Explorer Archetype: Parent Expression: Extraverted Intuition (Ne) acts as a supportive and encouraging parent, guiding the INTP's Ti towards exploring new possibilities and expanding their understanding of the world. Their Ne encourages them to consider different perspectives, to challenge their own assumptions, and to seek out new information and experiences. Manifestations: Openness to Possibilities: INTPs are open to a wide range of ideas and possibilities, always willing to consider new perspectives and explore unconventional approaches. They are not afraid to question the status quo or to challenge established beliefs. Interconnectedness and Patterns: They are skilled at seeing connections between seemingly disparate ideas and identifying patterns in complex systems. They are able to synthesize information from multiple sources and to draw insights from unexpected places. Intellectual Curiosity: They are driven by a deep intellectual curiosity, constantly seeking to learn new things and to expand their understanding of the world. They are avid readers, researchers, and explorers of new ideas and concepts. Innovation and Creativity: They are natural innovators, able to generate creative solutions to problems and to come up with new ideas and inventions. They are not afraid to experiment and are always seeking to improve upon existing systems and processes. 3. Tertiary Function: Introverted Sensing (Si) - The Playful Child Archetype: Child Expression: Introverted Sensing (Si) emerges as a playful and optimistic child, providing a sense of comfort and stability through a connection to past experiences and familiar routines. They might enjoy collecting data, organizing information, or engaging in hobbies that involve a sense of mastery and precision. Manifestations: Appreciation for Details: While not as detail-oriented as Si-dominant types, they develop an appreciation for the importance of accuracy and precision, using their Si to support their Ti's analysis and ensure their understanding is grounded in facts and evidence. Nostalgia and Sentimentality: They might have a sentimental attachment to certain objects, memories, or traditions, finding comfort in the familiar and the well-established. Personalized Systems: They might develop their own unique systems for organizing information or managing their lives, blending their Si's need for order with their Ne's love for novelty. Sense of Continuity: They might find a sense of security and continuity in connecting their current experiences to past knowledge, creating a sense of stability amidst the constant exploration of new ideas. 4. Inferior Function: Extraverted Feeling (Fe) - The Bridge to Harmony Archetype: The Inferior Expression: Extraverted Feeling (Fe) is the INTP's greatest challenge, representing their underdeveloped ability to navigate the social world and to understand and express their emotions effectively. They might struggle with social cues, feel uncomfortable in emotionally charged situations, or come across as awkward or insensitive. Manifestations: Social Awkwardness: They might feel awkward or uncomfortable in social situations, especially those that require them to express their emotions openly or to engage in small talk. Difficulty with Emotional Expression: They might struggle to identify and express their own feelings, often preferring to analyze their emotions logically rather than experiencing them fully. Desire for Connection: Despite their social awkwardness, they often have a deep desire for connection and belonging. They might crave meaningful relationships but struggle to initiate or maintain them due to their underdeveloped Fe. Fear of Rejection: They might fear rejection or criticism, especially in social situations, leading them to withdraw or avoid social interactions altogether. Shadow Functions: 5. Extraverted Thinking (Te) - The Opposing Strategist Archetype: The Opposing Personality Expression: The INTP's Opposing Personality (Te) manifests as a resistance to external systems, structures, and hierarchies that they perceive as illogical or inefficient. They may struggle with following rules or procedures that don't make sense to them, and they might be critical of those who prioritize efficiency over accuracy or understanding. This can lead to conflict with authority figures, a disregard for deadlines or schedules, and a tendency to question the status quo. Projection: They project their Te resistance by criticizing those who they perceive as overly focused on results, productivity, or external measures of success. They might see these individuals as shallow, superficial, or lacking in intellectual depth, failing to appreciate the value of a more thorough and nuanced understanding. Path to Integration: As the INTP integrates their Te, they learn to appreciate the value of efficiency and organization in the external world. They develop a greater ability to create and implement systems that work, to delegate tasks effectively, and to manage their time and resources more productively. They also learn to balance their internal world of logic and principles with the practical demands of the external world, finding ways to make their ideas more impactful and tangible. 6. Introverted Intuition (Ni) - The Critical Visionary Archetype: The Critical Parent Expression: The INTP's Critical Parent (Ni) manifests as a tendency toward negative foresight and a focus on potential problems or worst-case scenarios. They might become fixated on a single, negative outcome, overanalyzing potential threats and losing their ability to see a balanced perspective. This can lead to a sense of pessimism, anxiety, and a reluctance to take action, fearing that their efforts will inevitably lead to failure. Projection: They project their Ni anxieties onto others, often predicting negative outcomes, highlighting potential dangers, and expressing a pessimistic outlook on the future. This projection can create a sense of unease or apprehension in those around them, as they absorb the INTP's negative projections. Path to Integration: As the INTP integrates their Ni, they learn to balance their Ne's exploration of possibilities with a more realistic and grounded perspective on the future. They develop a more balanced sense of foresight, able to see both the potential opportunities and challenges that lie ahead. They learn to use their Ni to identify long-term goals and to develop strategic plans for achieving them, without becoming overwhelmed by anxiety or negativity. This integration allows them to channel their insights into a more focused and purposeful direction, making their ideas more impactful and their contributions more valuable. 7. Extraverted Sensing (Se) - The Disruptive Trickster Archetype: The Trickster Expression: The INTP's Trickster Se emerges as a playful, yet disruptive force, often manifesting as a tendency to engage in unexpected actions or behaviors that challenge social norms or disrupt the physical environment. They might enjoy pushing boundaries, experimenting with their surroundings, and testing the limits of what's acceptable. Their actions can be seen as both playful and subversive, often catching others off guard with their unconventional approach to sensory experiences. Projection: They might project their Trickster Se by engaging in pranks, making sarcastic comments, or pushing people's buttons, often justifying their actions as harmless fun or a way to challenge social norms. They might also be critical of others who are overly cautious or who avoid taking risks, seeing them as boring or unimaginative. Path to Integration: As the INTP integrates their Se, they develop a greater awareness of their physical environment and the impact of their actions on others. They learn to channel their Se energy in a more constructive and mindful way, finding healthy outlets for their need for stimulation and excitement. They might become more engaged in physical activities, develop a greater appreciation for aesthetics, or find joy in creating tangible objects or experiences. This integration allows them to be more present in the moment, to appreciate the beauty and wonder of the sensory world, and to express their creativity in a more grounded and impactful way. 8. Introverted Feeling (Fi) - The Internal Saboteur Archetype: The Demon Expression: The INTP's Demon Fi represents their deepest fear: the loss of their sense of self and their core values. It can manifest as a destructive force, leading to intense self-criticism, self-sabotage, and a withdrawal from relationships. They might become overly focused on their own flaws and shortcomings, feeling unworthy of love or connection. This can lead to a sense of isolation, despair, and a feeling of being fundamentally flawed or broken. Projection: They might project their Fi demon by becoming overly critical of others' morals and values, seeing hypocrisy or corruption where it might not exist. They might also withdraw from relationships, fearing that others will judge them or reject them for their perceived flaws. Path to Integration: As the INTP integrates their Fi, they develop a deeper sense of self-acceptance and compassion, both for themselves and others. They learn to embrace their imperfections, to forgive themselves for their mistakes, and to see the inherent worth in all individuals. They become more comfortable expressing their emotions and building genuine connections based on shared values, recognizing that vulnerability and authenticity are strengths, not weaknesses. This integration allows them to experience a deeper sense of purpose and meaning in life, connecting them to their core values and guiding them towards a more fulfilling and authentic path. Part 2: The INTP's Developmental Journey - Navigating the Four Personality Blocks The INTP's path is one of integrating their logical mind with their emotional intelligence, their need for autonomy with their desire for connection, and their love for ideas with the practical demands of the real world. It is a path that leads from a detached observer to a compassionate and impactful innovator. Block 1: The Logical Innovator (Hero - Ti) Archetype: Hero Function Stack: Ti-Ne-Si-Fe Expression: This is the core personality of the INTP—the analytical, logical, and independent thinker. They are driven by a thirst for knowledge, a deep curiosity about how things work, and a desire to create elegant and internally consistent systems of understanding. They excel at analyzing information, identifying patterns, and developing logical frameworks to make sense of complex ideas. Frequency: This block is consciously and constantly used, representing their default mode of operating. Block 2: The Harmonious Supporter (Inferior - Fe): Archetype: Inferior (The Awkward Diplomat) -> Mastered Connector (The Empathetic Facilitator) Function Stack: Fe-Si-Ne-Ti Expression: Initially, this block manifests as anxiety around social interaction, emotional expression, and navigating the complexities of relationships. The INTP might feel awkward, shy, or unsure of how to connect with others, fearing rejection or judgment. They might withdraw from social situations, over-intellectualize their feelings, or appear cold and detached. Progression: As they integrate this block, they embody the ESFJ archetype, becoming more attuned to the needs and feelings of others. They develop a greater capacity for empathy and compassion, learning to express their emotions more openly and build genuine connections based on shared values. They become more supportive, encouraging, and helpful, seeking to create a positive and harmonious environment for those around them, prioritizing the needs of the group and ensuring everyone feels included and valued. They excel at organizing social gatherings, remembering important dates, and offering practical support to those they care about. Frequency: This block is used semi-consciously and semi-frequently, with a high degree of accuracy. They begin to learn the social graces and how to make others feel comfortable and at ease. They can even become adept at anticipating the needs of others and providing support, though it still requires conscious effort. Block 3: The Systems Executor (Opposing - Te): Archetype: Opposing Personality (The Critical Strategist) -> Action-Oriented Ally (The Efficient Director) Function Stack: Te-Ni-Se-Fi Expression: Initially, this block manifests as a resistance to external systems, structures, and hierarchies that they perceive as illogical or inefficient. They may struggle with following rules or procedures that don't make sense to them, and they might be critical of those who prioritize efficiency over accuracy or understanding. This can lead to conflict with authority figures, a disregard for deadlines or schedules, and a tendency to question the status quo. They might also project their resistance onto others, criticizing those who are overly focused on results or who seem to value productivity over intellectual exploration. Progression: As they integrate this block, they embody the ENTJ archetype, becoming more comfortable with taking charge, setting goals, and implementing their ideas in a strategic and efficient manner. They learn to appreciate the value of structure and organization in achieving results and develop their leadership skills, becoming more decisive, assertive, and action-oriented. They can effectively manage teams, delegate tasks, and create systems that optimize productivity. Frequency: This block is mostly unconscious and projected, used less frequently, but with very high accuracy. They can get caught up in "efficiency crusades," trying to improve systems and processes, sometimes overlooking the human element or the impact of their actions on others. However, this drive for efficiency is often tempered by their underlying values and their desire for a logically sound approach. Block 4: The Authenticity Seeker (Demon - Fi): Archetype: Demonic Personality (The Internal Saboteur) -> Integrated Idealist (The Authentic Champion) Function Stack: Fi-Se-Ni-Te Expression: Initially, this block manifests as a destructive force, amplifying the INTP's deepest fear: a loss of self and a disconnect from their core values. This can lead to intense self-criticism, self-sabotage, social withdrawal, and a feeling of being fundamentally flawed or unworthy. They may project this fear by harshly judging others' morals and values, seeing hypocrisy and corruption everywhere. Progression: As they integrate this block, they embody the ISFP archetype, embracing their individuality and their unique perspective on the world. They become more comfortable expressing their emotions authentically, connecting with others on a deeper level, and pursuing their passions with a newfound sense of purpose. They learn to appreciate beauty and aesthetics, engage their senses more fully, and find creative outlets for their emotions and values. Their drive for authenticity and self-expression emerges, and they become passionate advocates for their beliefs, inspiring others with their genuineness and integrity. Frequency: This block is very unconscious and projected, used the least frequently, except in cases of extreme stress or unhealth. However, when fully integrated, it becomes a source of profound personal growth, self-acceptance, and a powerful drive to champion their values in the world. Part 3: The INTP's Archetypal Journey - From Detached Analyst to Enlightened Visionary The INTP's path is a journey of integrating their logical mind with their emotional intelligence, their need for autonomy with their desire for connection, and their love for ideas with the practical demands of the real world. It is a path that leads from a detached observer to a compassionate and impactful innovator. The Starting Point: The Detached Analyst (Dominant Ti) INTPs often begin their journey as quiet and introspective observers, fascinated by the world of ideas and driven by a deep need to understand the underlying principles that govern everything. Their Ti dominates their perception, leading them to analyze, categorize, and systematize information, seeking logical coherence and consistency in their understanding. They thrive in environments that allow them to explore their intellectual curiosity, often spending hours lost in thought, research, or problem-solving. They are drawn to complexity and enjoy unraveling the mysteries of the universe through their powerful analytical abilities. Challenges and Struggles: The INTP's journey is not without its challenges. Their inferior Fe can lead to social awkwardness, difficulty expressing their emotions, and a sense of isolation. They might struggle to build meaningful relationships, to understand the emotional needs of others, or to navigate the complexities of social interactions. They might feel like outsiders, misunderstood by a world that prioritizes emotions and social connection over logic and analysis. Their shadow functions can also create significant obstacles: The Opposing Strategist (Te): Their shadow Te might emerge as a need for control, leading them to micromanage others, criticize those who don't meet their standards, or become overly focused on efficiency and results. They might struggle to delegate tasks or to trust others' abilities, believing that their way is the only "right" way to do things, leading to conflict and tension in their relationships. The Critical Visionary (Ni): Their shadow Ni might manifest as cynicism, negativity, and a resistance to long-term planning or commitment. They might get stuck in a loop of exploring possibilities without taking concrete action, or they might fixate on a single, negative outcome, becoming paralyzed by fear or anxiety, leading to a sense of hopelessness and a reluctance to engage with the world. The Disruptive Trickster (Se): Their shadow Se might manifest as a tendency to disrupt the physical environment or engage in impulsive actions, often with a lack of awareness of the consequences. They might have a playful but sometimes reckless approach to the sensory world, experimenting with their surroundings, pushing boundaries, and seeking out new experiences, even if those experiences are potentially harmful or disruptive. This can lead to social faux pas, strained relationships, and a disregard for the impact of their actions on others. The Internal Saboteur (Fi): The INTP's Demon Fi represents their deepest fear: the loss of their sense of self and their core values. It can manifest as a destructive force, leading to intense self-criticism, self-sabotage, and a withdrawal from relationships. They might become overly focused on their own flaws and shortcomings, feeling unworthy of love or connection. This can lead to a sense of isolation, despair, and a feeling of being fundamentally flawed or broken, preventing them from sharing their gifts with the world. The Path to Integration: Embracing the Shadow The key to the INTP's growth lies in integrating their shadow functions and embracing the wisdom and strength they offer. As they develop their Fe, they become more attuned to the needs of others, more expressive of their own emotions, and more skilled at building and maintaining relationships. They begin to see the value in connecting with others on a deeper level, sharing their ideas and insights in a way that is both inspiring and supportive. As they integrate their Te, they learn to appreciate the value of efficiency and organization in the external world, becoming more effective leaders and problem-solvers. They are able to translate their ideas into action, creating systems and structures that make a tangible impact on the world. As they develop their Se, they become more present-moment focused, more attuned to their physical environment, and more able to take decisive action. They learn to channel their Se energy in a more constructive and mindful way, finding healthy outlets for their need for stimulation and excitement. They become more grounded in the present reality, appreciating the beauty and wonder of the sensory world, and expressing their creativity in a more tangible and impactful way. And as they integrate their Fi, they develop a deeper sense of self-acceptance and compassion, both for themselves and others. They learn to embrace their imperfections, to forgive themselves for their mistakes, and to see the inherent worth in all individuals. They become more comfortable expressing their emotions and building genuine connections based on shared values, recognizing that vulnerability and authenticity are strengths, not weaknesses. This integration allows them to experience a deeper sense of purpose and meaning in life, connecting them to their core values and guiding them towards a more fulfilling and authentic path. The Enlightened INTP: A Catalyst for Thoughtful Change The enlightened INTP is a powerful force for positive change, a brilliant mind coupled with a compassionate heart. They are able to harness the power of their integrated functions to create a better world, inspiring others with their knowledge, their creativity, and their unwavering commitment to truth and understanding. They have moved from a detached analyst, driven by a thirst for knowledge and a need for logical coherence, to a compassionate innovator, capable of understanding and responding to the complexities of the human experience. They have learned to balance their need for intellectual autonomy with a desire for connection and belonging, and they have found a way to use their gifts to make a real and lasting impact on the world. The INTP's Gift to Humanity: The INTP, when fully realized, is a gift to humanity. They are the deep thinkers, the problem-solvers, the ones who challenge us to see the world in new ways. They are the ones who push the boundaries of knowledge and understanding, seeking to unravel the mysteries of the universe and to create a more just and equitable world. Their legacy is one of intellectual brilliance, insightful innovation, and a quiet but profound dedication to making the world a better place. Conclusion: The INTP's journey is a testament to the transformative power of integrating our shadow selves. By embracing their anxieties around how the world engages with them, particularly in relation to tradition and routine (Si), their resistance to singular visions (Ni), their critical tendencies (Te), and their impulsive desires (Se), they can unlock their full potential as agents of change and innovation. Furthermore, by confronting their Trickster Fi, their blind spot of values, acknowledging their inconsistencies, embracing their authentic feelings, and aligning their actions with their core values, they become a beacon of integrity, inspiring others with their genuineness and their commitment to living a meaningful life. The enlightened INTP is a force to be reckoned with, a beacon of creativity, ingenuity, and a relentless pursuit of a better future for all.

Below is an example of some of my work on pair theory and inversion pairs, it is by far the most advanced that I have seen, although the below is on 80% accurate, it has contimination from the above issues I was describing, but its a good start 1+2: The Principled Helper This pairing combines the One's unwavering commitment to correction with the Two's desire to be loved and appreciated. However, the One's dominant energy shapes this need for connection into a tool for fulfilling their own need for perfection and "goodness." The Two's warmth, generosity, and social awareness are not independent forces but instruments meticulously wielded by the One to create a sense of order and harmony in their relationships and to demonstrate their own adherence to a high standard. Core Dynamics: The One's need for perfection dictates how the Two expresses their desire for love. The Two's natural inclination to help and please others becomes a means to an end, directed by the One towards actions and behaviors that align with their principles and uphold their exacting standards. This stems from the One's deep-seated fear of being "corrupt/evil" or "defective," which drives them to seek a sense of inner purity and righteousness by demonstrating their "goodness" through acts of service and care for others. The Two's fear of being unwanted is leveraged by the One and transformed into a drive to be seen as helpful and indispensable, not for the sake of the Two's own needs, but to validate the One's sense of moral worth. This creates a constant internal tension: the Two craves love and affection for its own sake, but the One filters this desire through their need for inner consistency, creating a struggle between the Two's desire to give unconditionally and the One's need to ensure that their actions are aligned with their principles. Internal Experience: The 1+2 experiences a constant internal push and pull between the Two's desire for unconditional love and the One's need for control and correctness. When the Two's desire to connect with others is activated, the One's fear of being flawed is triggered. They may feel a sense of anxiety or urgency to ensure that their expressions of love and support are perfectly aligned with their internal standards of "goodness." This can lead to a tendency to overthink their actions, to be overly critical of their own and others' expressions of affection, and to struggle with a fear of being perceived as insincere or manipulative. To alleviate this anxiety, the One utilizes the Two's warmth and generosity to create a sense of order and harmony in their relationships, ensuring that their actions are perceived as both helpful and correct. Strengths: Principled Support: The 1+2's generosity and care for others are always guided by a strong sense of principle. They are not simply helpful; they are driven to support others in a way that aligns with their own internal standards of correctness and reflects their commitment to being "good." Example: A 1+2 teacher might devote extra time and energy to helping struggling students, not only out of a desire to see them succeed but also because they believe it is their duty to provide guidance and support, reflecting their One's need for correctness in their role as an educator. Conscientious Giving: 1+2s are not impulsive or indiscriminate in their generosity. Their giving is carefully considered and often planned, driven by the One's need for control. They are motivated by a desire to be helpful, but they also want to ensure that their actions are appropriate, effective, and aligned with their principles. Example: A 1+2 might volunteer their time for a charitable cause, carefully researching the organization and its mission to ensure that their efforts align with their values and will have a tangible impact. They might also be hesitant to give to panhandlers, preferring to donate to established charities where they feel confident that their contributions will be used effectively. Disciplined Nurturing: The 1+2 combines the Two's warmth and affection with the One's self-control, creating a disciplined and structured approach to nurturing others. They are supportive and caring, but they also set clear boundaries and expectations, believing that structure and guidance are essential for growth and development. Example: A 1+2 parent might be both loving and firm with their children, providing affection and support while also setting clear rules and expectations for behavior. They believe that discipline and structure are essential for their children's development and well-being, and they strive to create a home environment that is both nurturing and orderly. Principled Connections: 1+2s are driven to create relationships that reflect their commitment to being "good" and their high standards. They are sensitive to the needs of others and strive to create a sense of fairness and cooperation in their interactions, ensuring that their relationships are aligned with their principles. Example: A 1+2 might be skilled at mediating conflicts, finding common ground between opposing viewpoints, and creating a sense of unity and understanding. They may also be drawn to roles or activities that involve bringing people together and fostering a sense of community. Weaknesses: Conditional Love and Support: The 1+2's desire to be loved and to be seen as "good" can lead them to offer love and support conditionally. They may struggle to accept or support those who they perceive as flawed or who do not align with their principles. Example: A 1+2 might withdraw their support from a friend who makes a choice they deem morally wrong, even if that friend is going through a difficult time and needs their support. They may struggle to separate their judgment of the person's actions from their love for the person, leading to a sense of conflict and a difficulty in offering unconditional love. Repressed Needs and Resentment: The One's tendency to suppress emotions and to prioritize their own need for correctness can lead the 1+2 to repress their own needs for love and affection. This can result in a build-up of resentment, as they may feel that their own needs are not being met, even as they are constantly striving to meet the needs of others. Example: A 1+2 might overextend themselves in their efforts to help others, sacrificing their own time and energy to fulfill the needs of their loved ones or their community, while neglecting their own needs for rest, relaxation, or personal fulfillment. This can lead to burnout and a sense of resentment, as they may feel unappreciated or taken for granted. Controlling Behavior in Relationships: The One's need for control, combined with the Two's desire to please, can create a dynamic where the 1+2 attempts to control their relationships to ensure that they are perceived as "good" and loving. This can manifest as a tendency to offer unsolicited advice, to try to "fix" the problems of others, or to become overly involved in the lives of those they care about. Example: A 1+2 might try to control their partner's behavior by offering constant critiques and suggestions for improvement, believing that they are helping their partner to become a better person. However, this can be perceived as controlling and critical, leading to resentment and conflict in the relationship. Judgment and Criticism of Others' Affection: The One's critical nature can extend to the way others express their love and affection. The 1+2 may judge others for being too emotional, too demonstrative, or not expressing their love in a way that aligns with their own internal standards of correctness. Example: A 1+2 might be uncomfortable with public displays of affection, finding them excessive or inappropriate. They might also be critical of friends who express their love in a way that they perceive as insincere or manipulative, even if those expressions are genuine. Emergent Behavioral Tendencies: Highly Principled and Conscientious: The 1+2 is likely to be seen as a highly principled and conscientious individual, guided by a strong inner compass and a commitment to doing what they believe is right. They may be drawn to causes or professions that allow them to express their values and to make a positive impact on the world. Supportive and Nurturing, but with Boundaries: They are likely to be supportive and nurturing in their relationships, but they will also set clear boundaries and expectations. They may struggle with expressing their emotions openly, but they will show their love and care through acts of service and practical support. Perfectionistic in Relationships: They may have a tendency to be perfectionistic in their relationships, striving to create a harmonious and idealized vision of love and connection. This can lead to a fear of conflict and a difficulty in accepting the imperfections of others. Prone to Guilt and Self-Criticism: The combination of the One's self-criticism and the Two's desire to please can lead to a tendency to feel guilty or inadequate when they perceive that they have not lived up to their own high standards or the expectations of others. The 1+2 Trap: The 1+2 can become trapped in a cycle of striving to be the "perfect" helper, constantly seeking to prove their worth through acts of service and self-sacrifice. However, this pursuit of external validation can leave them feeling empty and resentful, as they neglect their own needs and struggle to receive the unconditional love they crave. This can lead to a sense of burnout and a feeling of being unappreciated, as they may give and give without receiving the love and support they need in return. Defensive Mechanisms: Reaction Formation: Driven by the One's need to maintain a "good" image, the 1+2 may appear overly cheerful and optimistic, using the Two's warmth and generosity to mask their internal struggles with perfectionism and self-doubt. Projection: The One directs the Two's outward focus to project their own high standards onto others, criticizing perceived flaws in others' behavior or expressions of love as a way to deflect attention from their own imperfections and maintain a sense of moral superiority. 2+1: The Helpful Reformer This pairing combines the Two's desire to be loved and appreciated with the One's commitment to correctness. However, the Two's dominant energy shapes this need for correctness into a tool for enhancing their lovability and ensuring their helpfulness is both effective and perceived as correct. The One's principles and drive for perfection are not independent forces but instruments meticulously wielded by the Two to make themselves indispensable and worthy of admiration for their "goodness." Core Dynamics: The Two's need for love and validation dictates how they utilize the One's desire for correctness. The One's principles and standards become a framework for the Two to demonstrate their helpfulness and ensure their actions are perceived as both effective and morally sound. This stems from the Two's deep-seated fear of being unwanted, which drives them to seek reassurance and affirmation by proving their value and indispensability through acts of service that are both helpful and impeccably executed. The One's fear of being "corrupt/evil" or "defective" is leveraged by the Two and channeled into a striving for perfection in their helpful acts, ensuring that their efforts are not only appreciated but also seen as irreproachable. This creates a constant internal tension: the One's desire for inner consistency and their focus on self-improvement can clash with the Two's need to focus on the needs of others and adapt their behavior to gain approval. The Two may struggle to reconcile their desire to be loved for who they are with the One's need for them to be "perfect" in their helpfulness. Internal Experience: The 2+1 experiences a constant internal push and pull between the Two's need to connect with others and the One's need for control and correctness. When the Two's desire to be loved and appreciated is activated, their fear of being unwanted triggers a need to prove their worth through helpfulness. However, the One's influence adds a layer of anxiety, as the Two now feels pressure to ensure that their helpful actions are not only well-received but also flawlessly executed and perceived as correct. This can lead to a tendency to overthink their actions, be overly critical of their own and others' expressions of care, and struggle with a fear of being perceived as inadequate or insincere in their helpfulness. To alleviate this anxiety, the Two utilizes the One's principles and drive for perfection to create a sense of order and impeccability in their actions, ensuring that their efforts are seen as both helpful and morally sound. Strengths: Conscientious Helpfulness: The 2+1's generosity and care for others are always accompanied by a strong sense of responsibility and a dedication to doing things the "right" way. They are not simply helpful; they are driven to support others in a way that is both effective and reflects their commitment to a high standard of conduct. This strength stems from the Two's desire to be loved and their fear of being unwanted, which is amplified by the One's influence. The Two recognizes that being seen as both helpful and correct will increase their chances of earning love and appreciation. Example: A 2+1 social worker might be deeply committed to helping their clients, not only out of empathy and a desire to improve their lives, but also because they feel a strong sense of responsibility to do their job with integrity and to uphold ethical principles. This dedication to correctness, stemming from the One's influence, enhances the Two's helpfulness and makes them a more effective and respected advocate for their clients. Organized Generosity: 2+1s are not impulsive or indiscriminate in their generosity. Their giving is often planned and organized, driven by the One's need for control. They are motivated by a desire to be helpful, but they also want to ensure that their actions are appropriate, effective, and aligned with their principles. This strength stems from the Two's need to manage their resources effectively to ensure they can continue to be helpful and earn love, combined with the One's influence, which helps them to create a sense of order and efficiency in their giving. Example: A 2+1 might organize a fundraiser for a charitable cause, meticulously planning every detail and ensuring that the event runs smoothly and effectively, reflecting both their desire to help others and their need to be seen as competent and organized. This organized approach to giving, stemming from the One's influence, enhances the Two's effectiveness and increases their chances of receiving recognition and appreciation for their efforts. Principled Nurturing: The 2+1 combines the Two's warmth and affection with the One's focus on correctness, creating a balanced approach to nurturing others. They are supportive and caring, but they also set clear boundaries and expectations, believing that structure and guidance are essential for growth and development. This strength stems from the Two's desire to be loved and their need to create a sense of security and stability in their relationships, combined with the One's influence, which helps them to establish clear guidelines and to provide a sense of order and predictability in their interactions with others. Example: A 2+1 parent might be both loving and firm with their children, providing affection and support while also setting clear rules and expectations for behavior. They believe that structure and discipline are essential for their children's development, reflecting the One's influence, and they strive to create a home environment that is both nurturing and orderly. Harmonious Connections: 2+1s are driven to create harmonious and balanced relationships, reflecting the Two's desire for connection. They are sensitive to the needs of others and strive to create a sense of peace and cooperation in their interactions, seeking to be seen as both loving and fair. This strength stems from the Two's core fear of being unwanted and their need to maintain harmonious relationships to avoid rejection. Example: A 2+1 might be skilled at mediating conflicts, finding common ground between opposing viewpoints, and creating a sense of unity and understanding. They may also be drawn to roles or activities that involve bringing people together and fostering a sense of community, both to satisfy their Two's need for connection. Weaknesses: Conditional Love: The 2+1's desire to be loved and to be seen as "good" can lead them to offer love and support conditionally. They may struggle to accept or support those who they perceive as flawed or who do not align with their principles, fearing that associating with "imperfect" individuals might tarnish their own image and make them less lovable. This weakness stems from the Two's core fear of being unwanted and their need to be seen as "good" and worthy of love. The One's influence amplifies this tendency, as it reinforces their belief that they must be perfect to be loved. Example: A 2+1 might withdraw their support from a friend who makes a choice they deem morally wrong, even if that friend is going through a difficult time and needs their support. They may struggle to separate their judgment of the person's actions from their love for the person, leading to a sense of conflict and a difficulty in offering unconditional love. Repressed Needs: The Two's tendency to focus on the needs of others, combined with the One's focus on self-control and correctness, can lead the 2+1 to repress their own needs for love and affection. This can result in a build-up of resentment, as they may feel that their own needs are not being met, even as they are constantly striving to meet the needs of others. This weakness stems from the Two's fear of being seen as needy or demanding, which they believe would make them less lovable. The One's influence reinforces this tendency, as it emphasizes the importance of self-control and restraint. Example: A 2+1 might overextend themselves in their efforts to help others, sacrificing their own time and energy to fulfill the needs of their loved ones or their community, while neglecting their own needs for rest, relaxation, or personal fulfillment. This can lead to burnout and a sense of resentment, as they may feel unappreciated or taken for granted. Controlling Behavior: The Two's desire to please, amplified by the One's need for control, can create a dynamic where the 2+1 attempts to control their relationships to ensure that they are perceived as "good" and loving. This can manifest as a tendency to offer unsolicited advice, to try to "fix" the problems of others, or to become overly involved in the lives of those they care about, believing that their helpfulness will make them indispensable. This weakness stems from the Two's fear of being unwanted and their need to feel needed and in control of their relationships. The One's influence reinforces this tendency, as it emphasizes the importance of order and correctness in all areas of life, including relationships. Example: A 2+1 might try to control their partner's behavior by offering constant critiques and suggestions for improvement, believing that they are helping their partner to become a better person and thus more worthy of their love. However, this can be perceived as controlling and critical, leading to resentment and conflict in the relationship. Judgment of Others' Affection: The One's critical nature, channeled through the Two's desire to be seen as "good," can lead the 2+1 to judge the way others express their love and affection. They may find fault with expressions of love that they perceive as excessive, insincere, or not aligned with their own internal standards of correctness. This weakness stems from the Two's need to be seen as morally upright and their fear of being associated with anything that might be perceived as "bad" or "wrong." The One's influence amplifies this tendency, as it reinforces their belief that there is a "right" and "wrong" way to express love. Example: A 2+1 might be uncomfortable with public displays of affection, finding them excessive or inappropriate. They might also be critical of friends who express their love in a way that they perceive as overly emotional or dramatic, even if those expressions are genuine. Emergent Behavioral Tendencies: Helpful and Dutiful: The 2+1 is likely to be seen as a helpful and dutiful individual, driven by a strong desire to be of service to others and to make a positive impact on the world. They may be drawn to roles or professions that allow them to express their care and concern for others, such as teaching, nursing, or social work. Organized and Detail-Oriented: The One's influence can make the 2+1 highly organized and detail-oriented in their approach to helping others. They may be meticulous in their planning and execution of tasks, and they may have a strong need for structure and predictability in their work and personal lives. Warm and Supportive, but with Boundaries: The 2+1 can be warm and supportive in their relationships, but they are also likely to set clear boundaries and expectations. They may struggle with expressing their own needs directly, but they will be fiercely loyal and protective of those they care about. Prone to Guilt and Self-Criticism: The combination of the Two's need for approval and the One's tendency towards self-criticism can make the 2+1 prone to guilt and self-doubt. They may be highly self-critical when they perceive that they have not lived up to their own high standards or the expectations of others. The 2+1 Trap: The 2+1 can become trapped in a cycle of striving to be the "perfect" helper, constantly seeking to prove their worth through acts of service and self-sacrifice, but never feeling truly loved or appreciated for who they are. This can lead to resentment, burnout, and a loss of connection with their own needs and desires. Defensive Mechanisms: Repression: The 2+1 may repress their own needs and feelings, pushing them out of conscious awareness to avoid the pain of rejection or the discomfort of acknowledging their own vulnerability. This can lead to a buildup of unexpressed emotions, which may manifest in unhealthy ways. Indirect Strategies: The 2+1 may use their charm, warmth, and generosity to indirectly influence others to meet their needs, often without being consciously aware of their intentions. This can be a way of avoiding direct confrontation and the risk of rejection, but it can also create a sense of imbalance and distrust in their relationships.

Most of psychology is done on stereotypical inference, wihtout any tethering to a strict mechanical underlying framework, so you end up with all types of innacuracies and pop-psychology. And exponentially lose utlity. Apart from perhaps Jungs original work its been degrading in terms of the mechanics I dislike socionics too, they make tons of errors, also dislike alot fo modern mbti frameworks. I have not heard of the attitudinal psyche. But I think I have the one of most accurate understanding of personality and psychological models on the planet, and the framework I use produces the most accurate results in my view. I have my own re-work of Jungs original psychological types, and ennegram tritype theory. In terms of mechanical accuracy. Take the type One in ennegram, the popular defintiion is "Ones are conscientious and ethical, with a strong sense of right and wrong. " Basic Fear: Of being corrupt/evil, defective Basic Desire: To be good, to have integrity, to be balanced All of these are loose consequences or part steretypical inferences of underlying mechanics. But when we look at childhood patterns Type 1 – The Reformer/Perfectionist Childhood Message: "It’s not okay to make mistakes or have flaws." Message from Caregivers: Caregivers may have conveyed—either directly or subtly—that the child’s value depended on their ability to be “idealist” and “perfect.” Mistakes might have been met with criticism or disapproval, and the child was often encouraged to live up to high standards. Wounding Pattern: The child felt pressure to be good and responsible to gain approval. They learned to repress natural impulses and emotions in order to avoid making mistakes, which led to an internalized sense of guilt and the need to constantly improve themselves. How It Shaped the Type: Type 1s internalized a strong inner critic, striving for perfection and correctness. They became disciplined, responsible, and focused on improvement. They constantly self-monitor and impose order, both on themselves and their environment. The true fear/desire is Fear: being defective, imperfect, flawed Desire: become Flawlesss, Immaculate, Perfection These mechanical attributes, can now be used to derive and extrapolate to the stereotypes.. This accuracy is hugely important, as small subtle variation on core definitions leads to huge variations on the output So I have correct all of the childhood trauma patterns for the types, their subsequent core/fears desire so they are 100% accurate, and then step by step all subsequent work. It gets fun and interesting as we build into pair combo theory, and finally tri-type theory. So 531 is 5-3-1, then pairs 5+3 5+1 3+1. I dont alot of modelling on how pair ordering effects overall dyanmics of the personality structure etc In 1-2 months I should have some initial foundaitonal work completed, I am on over 1000 pages of data output so far, but have to keep going back and re-working everythign due to contaminations

Wilber was pivotal in the developmental stages of one of my favourite psycho-spiritual frameworks; the ennegram. Its what I use at the core of my framework. I think I have re-worked alot of the core mechanics of ennegram, it is a very powerful model for romantic compatibility. A purified and synthesized version of ennegram and jungs work produces highly accurate predictive outputs

Yes but not in the way you think. I am working extensively on a unifying psychology model, that will accurate integrate several theories into a synthesized framework that will: Accurately describe your psychological structure in full Accurately outline your unique path to integration/enlightenment Your ideal reciprocal partner chocies for relationship satisfaction Advanced work and team bulding strategies Id say only 20-30% of humans are with their top pscyhological match. The vast majority of humans are settling or compromising to a large degree. This will change rapidly in the future as we start to use models like mine to assist with partner-matching It will be compeltely and fully synthesized in the next 12-24 months as the AI models advance to handle the deep theoretical synthesization that is required for the output

Im sorry but this isnt true. What exactly about my post below is ad hominen or disrespectful? Your self-image of someone who delights in heated agreement, good faith arguments, and treats everyone equally, is only when it suits you as I previously stated. As soon as you percieve you are outmatched and might lose social standing, you are impolite and rude. There is nothing in my below post that is disrespectful or bad faith or any other of these projections. This is where you started being rude "You are not understanding what I am saying. Let me try to be more clear: Your whole gender dynamic perspective is totally flawed. This rhetoric of women are x and men are y is incorrect and is a false dichotomy Humans in general have preferences and criteria that are unique to the individual. But all humans are comrpomising to some degrees some of the time with all relaitonships. I cant see how you are struggling to see this. Whatever generalised anecdotes you can make are not helpful and are ultimately not useful to anyone. They tell you nothing about yourself or any individual that is interesitng or meaningful. Even within your biological paradigm, all studies are showing that women still have selection criteria: hypergamy, so the rhetoric that women are natural and organically selecting partners is no more true then saying so for men. Both sexes have unconcious selection criteria derived mainly from survival instincts but this criteria is mutable as most modern studies are showing. This means the only thing you can say is: women or men have tended to in the past chose partners based on x according to yz studies. But the reasons for any choice are complex, unknown, hypothetical, and seemingly mutable to varying to degrees in modern emergent trends. However when factoring in levels of psychological development, surival security, individual differences/preferences, whilst controlling for societal conditioning and influence, the spectrum is hugely diverse" The above post is precisely a good heated discussion and good faith. Its also well written, has a clear logic structure, and is concise and clear. But you didnt have a rebuttal so you resorted to ignoring under the guise of some psuedo-moral superiority. Which is rude and disrespectful

This is false Emerald, I spoke to you many times like that in previous threads and you ignored any discussion where the other person has stronger arguments. You also previously spoke to me in this thread, unto which I kindly responded, and you also ignored me then You speak on your terms when it suits you i.e.. re-inforces your sense of superiority. Outside of this you don't engage. This is impolite discourse. I respond to all that engage with me, its common courtesy when we see each other as equal value

Yes thats there are two core issues for me in capitalism: 1. Remuneration and pay. At its core if we all put equal effort and time and care, shouldnt we all recieve the same remuneration. Everything else is bias. This would be the most unbiased view, but it wouldnt incentivize progression or growth. It would be intersting to hear peoples perspectives on how you can be high concious while optimising for innovation and growth, or are they opposed at certain levels? 2. Authority and decision making, how is this done? Its not an easy answer for me, having democratic decision making for a company on all decisions would lead to 0 progress or marginal progress and the comapny would probably die. Meritocratic can be done but would need to be weighted, Technocratic with meritocratic is the best way imo. technomeritocracy,

LOL I am doing it on purpose my friend, I am mirroring them but I do it explicitly. I am more then capable of engaging in a reasonable discussion. You dont see how they are constantly condescending and think they are superior? Cant see how they do this subtly all the time? They rarely engage in any discourse that can undermine this posiiton, no matter how polite But I hear you, its your forum, Ill stop explicitly mirrioring them. I will be kinder in my approach, no worries

You are missing the point, its not women, I have many female friends and have slept wiht over 700+ women, Im well aware of female persepctives on sexuality, Im probably the expert on the fourm in this regard. I am 37 years old, and was speaking to Mystey (Erik von markivich) in the beginning of 2006 on email. I was one of the first people to study and apply game in the world when I was 18 years old - 18 years ago. The point is Emerald and Princesss warped views being given as a representative of all female sexuality, which is misleading and flase. Even Buck Edwards disgrees with them, and im sure plenty over females do, but they are too scared to speak up due to the unfair social standing you give to Emerald and Princess with their psuedo-spiritual insanity. Emerald has done pyschedelics 5 times in her life, and Princess 0, and these are our experts? Again it is only 2 female members, the female mafia, not all females, you are exaggarating. I know my posts to them are confrontational and harsh, and I apologies to them both if Ive been overly rude, or they've been hurt by my comments. But to paint my issues with Princess and Emerald as de-incentivising female participation is just not correct. Princess and Emerald are too of the most prominent and prolific female posters, and none of my posts have impacted that at all, they still post incessently, and neither have engaged me in any discussion.

Good work, one of my biggest regrets is ever starting drink and drugs. Which I didnt really do until 26. I dont even know where it all went so wrong. I was adamant of not using alcohol as a crutch, and would do day game and party sober all through my early 20s. Vices are kind of like a frog in boiling water, by the time you realise your in trouble your burning fast

What to do though? The amount of bullshit posted in them is sickening. Theres a subset of women whos voice is over represented in these threads as though they are the source of truth when it comes to sexuality and dating. Its dangerous for younger men, or men who want to learn how to actually attract women Emerald wont even acknowledge any post that doesnt re-inforce her ego. She has never once responded to any of my points, no matter how logical, concise and clear they are, as they undermine her ego posturing - not once. This in and of itself is a form of disrespect and condecension, which goes totally unchecked by moderation, yet not by any of the latest AI models (do we have female qoutas to fill?). The only difference between me Princess and Emerald is that I make my disrespect explicit and purposeful, they play games and pretense.

You think Im a bully as I call you out on your bullshit. This is a spiritual forum, and spirituality and self-honesty are synonyms. I dislike your liking for pretense I merely mirror you in a purposeful way so you can clearly see the bullshit Again, piss and fart on whoever you want, whenever you want. But don't kid yourself about this dynamic, its absurd to even isninuate this is healthy behaviour. Its demeaning and degrading, irregardless of the consent, and at some level this whole category of behaviour will cease if you pursue spirituality properly

Im not convinced at all by this causality you posit

Enlightenment is simply what it says, no more self deceit or unconciousness

No you are missing my point. To engage with it on any level, whatever the justiifcaitons (self deceit) are will erode your self esteem - whether your concious of it or not. Its like a metaphysical law At the level your at right now, maybe this isnt obvious, but if you think your becoming an enlightened sex worker, it isnt happening

I am probably less risk averse then you though. And maybe more naively optimistic I think its a mixture of multiple factors, passionate about technology and AI is exciting and emergent, whilst trying to monetize it. I dont see Google et al like I do Aramco or BP Shell for example, All the modern tech companies have been a God-send for commerce and working culture in my view

I mean ther problem here is there are no obejctively defined criteria of risk thresholds, and we all have different ones. Most of these conversaitons are people just projecting their own values and perspectives onto other people. It's not a true marker of malintent for me

How are you defining evil? What you say its a monster, what does a non-monster verison look like?

No, what Im saying is this: to engage in sex work of any kind is to have low self esteem. And this will be come cristal clear the more you evolve spirtiually. No advanced spiritual person is farting or pissing on peoples face for money for example lol, its degrading and demeaning to both participants

Hmm actually thats open AI, his concerns with Google are due to his ex-freindship with Larry. Larry called Elon as speciest for only caring about human conciousness, Larry preferred a more holistic view. Neither of these guys are inherently unethical, they both seem genuinely concerned about human and concious devleopment from thier own POV

Can you give concrete examples? The founders larry and sergey to me seem motivated by technological advancement for humanity, and they both are far removed from personal fincial survival worries, and theyre also not in the limelight Google did alot to help progress working conditions and modern working culture in a good way. Elon musk also sold all his homes recently, and doesnt seemed so concerned about survival, Tesla/Space x often times came close to the brink of death, he seems to have higher values then sole survival concern. He is also pushing the rate of innovaiton and changing patent culture. He is basically saying patents shouldnt exist, and only those that truly innovate at a high rate should survive, and if Tesla/Space X cant do this, they shouldnt exist Whats your perspective here

LOL yes I agree. The only hope is there is nothing explcit in the charters that impedes progression away from evil. I mean what do you think about Google etc?

I think at high levels of conciousness you simply only want the best for people you arent looking to acquire anything from them or to change them in anyway, capitalism at its core is about extraction of productivty and value, in a hyper competitive environment, so to me thats why its antithetical for me I think this could be migitate slightly with following principles: The companies goals should be to help humanity at some level, not merely profit Life both humans and animals should be the highest values -> staff, products, customers etc should be prioritized above profit Equalising of monetary reward, everyones time and life is equal, no one should be paid more then anyone else, everyone is simply serving their role Strict checks and adherence to supply chain quality, and suppliers. Ethical and humane standards across the whole chain Humane treatment of staff, how people are hired, trained, and fired should all be done humanely The company and the executive team exist to serve the staff customers and wider humanity, rahter then the other way round These are just off the top of my head

Can you highlight some of the corruption or truth values someone has to forfeit to operate in modern capitalism, beyond the obvious like corruption and bribery