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Did you not demonize Trump? And ban people who were pro trump? I understand that moderating a forum is hard, and your can’t be 100% fair to all. But if you yourself engage in these things, it’s just a harder unfairness pill to swallow. Plus I didn’t mean you used exact “a mentally crazy psycho terrorist” words all together and that order. I meant you talked shit about him too, and called him names.

How is what I said any different from what other people said? You’re saying I am the only one who said putler was a psycho and a terrorist? You want to say none of these things are true? Please tell me what exactly of what I said in there is untrue and radical? You’ve said these same things about Trump on this forum, although he hasn’t done have of atrocious things putin did. I am not saying anything extreme that hasn’t been said on this forum already by others, you just don’t like me coz I’ve been calling you out on what you’ve been saying, and this forum is not for people who disagree with you or challenge you. I think it should be renamed to leogura.org.

Putin is a mental crazy psycho. Period. He is mad, he is not calculating, he is a terrorist

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Hi All, I am Ukrainian and I would like to ask everyone who has the possibility to, please make a donation to give my country a good chance to defend themselves against a blood-thirsty invader. 20-50$ won’t save you or make you rich, but it could save someone’s life. Ukrainians are very strong and brave people. Please donate here: https://armysos.com.ua/en/ (go to menu -> help the army) https://m.facebook.com/donate/1158240871580789/?fundraiser_source=feed Ukrainian National Bank: https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi A Canadian go fund me page: https://www.gofundme.com/f/helpukrainenow-ukraine-humanitarian-appeal?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer Please don’t believe any stage red putin propaganda. Ukraine is a peaceful country who wants democracy and a chance for a better life for their people.

This is a different thread than the one I made before. I explained in my other thread how the two are different.

There are never enough of supplies during the war, first aid kits, bandages, pain killers, fever reducers, these things are needed like air Please donate, please help to save a life.

Gypsies steal a russian tank

That’s of course true as well, that is why I said they are not all mambo jumbo, but green completely evil-izes this - which is of course important in multi cultural societies.

Just a note, I am talking about the situation of a russian migrating to US and living further in US. Insane corruption, scams, cheating as a norm (in school, uni), bribes, all about “knowing the right people”, you’re “above the law” when you know the right people or have money or right connections, gangs, corrupted police, honestly there is a lot to list and I am an INFJ so this is my weakest side as an Ni - (although maybe that’s just me) I remember there was a case in US where a celebrity paid to get her child into Uni and was facing criminal charges and jail for that, that would be just laughable in Russia, it’s as normal as a “have a good day”.

I am aware of this, this is why this situation is “touching” me so much, but I am not some stage blue crazy person that some might think I am. I want people to understand the “Ukraine perspective” from “Ukraine perspective” not “Western perspective” Also, I am not “obviously very attached”, with this statement you are belittling and reducing everything I am saying, without addressing any of my arguments which is very toxic.

The culture (school, tv, friends) has more “influence” on “you” than individual parenting. School is literally where you learn, and schools around the world teach different stuff in different ways. In some cases the kids may feel as “misfits” they are not culturally here nor there.. but generally there are more culturally “there” - the country they migrated into, especially at the age of 6. Nationalism, patriotism, that side of blue they have. But the “good vs bad” kind, the one that religion gives, in my personal opinion from what I observed, it’s lacking in the culture in general. There is a lot of red generally and that’s a fact. That cultural stereotypes are not all mambo-jumbo stuff. But because some believe it to be, they don’t look into understanding that side of things too deeply. I wasn’t talking about Crimea btw, I was talking about the situation in Eastern Ukraine, the war in Ukraine began long time, it wasn’t full scale and putin kept lying that russia is not involved and it’s ukrainain “seperatists” there, even those these men had russian passports and military technology no separatist could ever afford and obtain.

I am looking at the big picture. I have been thinking about this since 2014 and since I heard Chomsky puting blame on US “the west” for the Ukraine situation. I thought about that perspective a lot. You guys are all new to this, but this situation in Ukraine has been happening since 2014. You guys think you have some new “edge” on the situation because you’re able to “experience being against US”, but you don’t. I am Ukrainian, I know how Ukrainians think, I know how Russians think, have more “intel-understanding” Note that Leo migrated to US when he was 6 (I think he mentioned it in one of his videos). Children who migrate this young, have very few memories/understanding of their “home” society - many of them don’t even speak the language well (I think if you migrate up to 10-11 old, you’re predominantly shaped by the culture of the country you migrated to). I don’t think he fully grasps the culture. Interestingly with Russians though, they still keep a lot of their cultural pride - they live “where it’s good to live”, but Russia is still always the best. I am not hinting on anything here, it’s just an interesting thing that I noticed about Russians. Russia is stage red, the religious thing wasn’t big - remember during communists times religion was banned, it was banned to go to church, my mom had school days on Sunday on purpose so that she wouldn’t attend church (in Western Ukraine). I don’t think they ever transcended into blue (in general, the “good vs bad” kind of blue, not the nationalistic kind). I don’t know what orange looks like without blue in between. US is blue-orange-green (like a teardrop centered at orange) Green is very judgemental when it comes to stereotyping and analyzing the culture from that perspective. But I think that’s the kind of intel everyone is missing here, what you can’t understand, and that’s why it’s laughable when you compare the “evil of US” to the “evil of russia”. Like I can understand evil for the sake of money, vs evil just for the sake of ego, pride (understand is a relative word here) People who are from Estern Europe, and are not “entrenched in Russian pride”, have an advantage in understanding the big picture of the situation.

Why would russia put its missiles all the way in Cuba? Ukraine is different because it’s already bordering NATO countries. Do you not see the fucking difference? Ukraine wants to integrate more with Europe and the West. Ukraine wants to join NATO. This is actually interesting, and maybe this is why russia is doing, they knew why they put missiles in Cuba. If you’re doing shady shit, everyone looks like a criminal to you too. Don’t compare Ukraine to Libya. Ukraine is a democratic country in Europe, it doesn’t have an unstable fucked up government (note I am not saying it’s not corrupt) Again, joining NATO was not a “move” on russia (highlighting here that Ukraine was not promised to join NATO). Ukrainian people want to integrate with Europe and the West, they want democracy and to develop their economy. Note that the whole thing started in 2014, doing Maydan revolution, when people started protesting because our pro-russian president declined to sign a trading agreement with Europe. An innocent person is not afraid of police. They want to keep their fucked up shit going. The problem is that putin doesn’t see Ukraine as an independent country with its own decisions and wants - as you can see per screen shot below. So in his paranoid mind, this was a move on russia. And honestly, whatever US is doing russia is 10 times worse. Where would you rather live, in US or russia? This is the question you have to ask yourself. By the way, here is the picture of the map of Ukraine in 1919 (to address putins comment above). Stalin destroyed a lot of Ukrainians during Holodomor, my old neighbour was one of the survivors (she watched her 2 parents and 2 brothers starve to death) so I heard about these horrors from a young age. The exact death toll is hard to estimate, but it is going up to 7mil (for comparison Holocaust death toll is around 6 mil) (also look up the world population around that time). Holodomor happened in the Eastern Ukraine. Then they “replaced” that population with Russians.

“Bitches, get the fuck out of Ukraine and my village! Grandma Nadya” Ukrainian grandma with love.

@Something Funny I am learning a lot about the world these days, there are truly hopelessly damaged people out there, but there are amazing gems of people out there too. If it wasn’t for kind and supportive people like you, I and many others would lose all faith in the world ?❤️?❤️?

Have you been following what’s going on? They are all over Ukraine now! Because we are not stupid naive 3 year olds and we know this won’t end in Donbas! This was never about Donbas!

People on the forum, don’t be so heartless, don’t just watch what’s happening in Ukraine as if it’s some kind of entertainment, donate, help, get out to your cities and protest, don’t just watch a country get destroyed! All the threads on the forum are getting “hot” while this one is abandoned! While this one is the only one that will make a difference! Just chatting and theorizing on the outcomes won’t help save lives!

What I meant to say, I don’t think he is based off of blue (centred at blue), doesn’t mean he doesn’t have parts of blue in him. But I might be wrong, just what I observed.

I just want to say, I don’t think he is blue. I’ve been observing a lot of green for him, mind-body kind of ways, spirituality, inclusivity, etc. I do distrust all the politicians though.

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