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@Thought Art @Princess Arabia thanks and much love. You both deserve a big shoutout.

Thanks for everything Leo. Maybe its not the final station, but it makes me think the ultimate reality and consciousness can never be realized, which is akin to what Islam and Sufism teaches. If you can awaken ever deeper, the ultimate can never be known. But hey, maybe im wrong. Its just all too much for me, you're a radical dude. I want to add that anyone reading this, who thinks actualized is some kind of suicide cult, thats extremely wrong. No, Leo's teachings are not good for people who are suicidal or extremely stuck in life, but that is simply because Leo thinks and teaches that nihilism is true. But the dominant view of western contemporary philosophy is also that nihilism is true. So that would make the entire west a suicide cult. Leo has always teached a love for life and to not harm the body, and Leo has even on many occasions shed tears of Love in his videos, for the beauty of life and consciousness. Plus, the idea that an open forum, where anyone can criticise Leo all they want, like this is anywhere close to a cult is a ridiculous idea. Yes, you could say that Leo's stance on solipsism might cause people to justify their suicide, but i would counter this with saying that western contemporary nihilism is no different. Even if you kill yourself, your parents will only suffer infinitessimally short compared to the void that is ahead of them. So theres really no difference in that regard anyway.

Bye guys, i cant take being here anymore. Leo's vibe and stances as a teacher are just too harsh for me. What he said in the monkey torture video thread was the last straw; the fact that you simply have to accept that you will go through all kinds of torture for eternity just for the sake of it, its simply unnacceptable to me that this is the best idea that God has and that reality is this way. Theres no rhyme or reason about it. Im already suicidal and if there is no consequence to my action in the eternal sense, which is the case if there is just infinite reincarnation, there is absolutely no reason not to kill myself right now, maybe there will be some karma but that means absolutely nothing if you will just be reincarnating forever as everything imaginable anyway. Basic personal development is also pretty much over for me due to health issues, i cant date or socialize for the most part, which is the biggest driver of my nihilism and suicidal ideation. I simply can't fathom the fact i have to suffer all this bullshit for absolutely no reason, if there is infinite reincarnation there is absolutely no meaning to any of your suffering or anything at all, including any awakening, since you are bound to fall asleep again, also there is an infinite depth to awakening that can never be reached, I mean Leo claimed to have had the deepest awakening 5 years ago, which he now dismisses as "human", even though he claimed in that awakening he transcended all notions of being human etc. Why should we believe this alien stuff is the final station now? It made me realize i fell into the trap of believing his stuff, when , it is all super contradictiory, another example of this is that in the 30 day 5meo video he said that in his final days of tripping he discovered a "2nd dimension" of awakening, what is that even supposed to mean, he never even mentioned it after that video, when you would think such a thing would be absolutely massive in consequence to metaphysics. It all just feels very snake oily looking back on it. Hence I will soon be converting to Islam, it makes the most sense to adapt that worldview, precisely because as humans we know nothing, but realize the infinite potential of reality and the eternity of the soul, if you only know those things Islam makes the most sense imo, it also makes sense of the suffering since this life is seen as a test, to eventually potentially make you reach infinite liberation and redemption of your manhood. I can also place my fear of hell in the worldview and work with it, it just feels natural to me. Im still blessed to be priviliged to be in university and have a great chance of getting a remote job that i can work with my health conditions, so i can probably get some nice income and move somewhere where theres a sufi order and live the sufi life, give most of my income to the poor and just live a life of worship and meditations. Its better than going fully hermit and fits my new conclusions about metaphysics and religion. Thanks Leo first and foremost, for all the amazing content, i would never have this respect and amazement for reality and life where it not for you. It seems you dont really care for my takes on this forum but that is okay. May your health issues and suffering ease. When my issues were starting in 2022 Leo was even so kind to gift the life purpose course to me. Harsh as he is, Leo is an extremely generous soul and he wishes the best for everyone. That is why when the new course will come out, I will pay for one course for one of you who cant afford it. When its time, PM me and i will do a raffle and pay for one. Ill log back in when its out to do this raffle. Thanks all the other ppl on this forum, Osaid, Princess Arabia, Emerald, Someone Here, Nilsi, Docwatts, and so many cool others here, this forum truly is a place like no other. Godspeed to all of you. i have enjoyed and learned so much from seeing yall speak and grow. Im sorry for my wacky and sometimes resentful posts in the past, if i posted something wacky it was mostly as a reaction to my own ego because i was so frustrated that i was no longer able to fulfill my egoic desires due to my issues. I hereby request @Osaid and confirm to have all my prior posts hidden except this one. I will end my journey here by sharing my favorite videos of Leo, one metaphysical and one about life. An absolute classic, that forms the basis of all spirituality and consciousness work, and is absolutely necessary to begin working towards any kind of truth. An amazing exposition of our conditioned mind and assumptions, and all other metaphysics are to be derived from this realization. My favorite video, the way Leo pulls out from you, your hidden and inner wonder for life, and reveals the wonders of life, how much is possible, how magical life and reality really is, i cant really describe whats so good about this video. It reveals to you the numbed , boring and fearful conditioning that you have lived with your whole life, the fact you know and knew nothing, and pulls it all together in an extremely practical video for all to see. This vid made me feel like this world is home, that zelda feeling like there truly is magic in the world. With this, i say you all goodbye. Godspeed.