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Will probably shift wealth distribution slightly. If I find a way to incorporate ChatGPT (and soon GPT-4 and GPT-n) into my workflow, I will be heaps more productive than someone who doesn't; and I will have the first mover advantage of getting resources and clients faster, which in turn will exponentially widen the power delta between us until the market is saturated. There will be a short time span where these technologies can be exploited to gain power, but as more people catch on, it will still be all about who is most creative and creates the most value. These disruptive technologies will generally empower those that are most creative, sovereign and able to think on their feet.

This guy clearly doesnt comprehend the significance of what Peterson is saying. Im kinda sick of people asking for "simple explanations," when obviously some things cant be explained "simply."

If I want to explain the concept of a car to you, I dont mention the brand, color, size or whatever of the car; and Im not concerned with whether you can and should use this car as a getaway car for a bank robbery, or drive over your neighbors cat, or whatever. - Im just concerned with explaining what a car is to you. And if cars are rare and some maverick happens to be driving by in his car, I will naturally point to that car and tell you that that is in fact a car. It is far from shallow, its actually very profound when you understand the significance and implications of this in the larger context of morality.

HoW dArE yOu! Im not comparing your vision to that of a sex trafficking scammer. Im comparing your self-righteousness and will to power to that of Andrew Tate. Dont be such a drama queen.

I thought so too. I think he does the classic "It is better to believe in God and be wrong than to not believe and be wrong" move, but Im not sure whether he really believes in an "other world." After all, he always criticizes the "Neo-Marxists" for their utopian fantasies, which are really just a spin-off of Christianities "Kingdom of Heaven." I just want to hear it out of his mouth.

You are very much like this as well. You never took shit from other people and just went full steam ahead with your vision. Its arguable how many people you have traumatized and damaged along the way - yet I dont sit here and moralize to you what a bad person you are.

An exceptional man doesn't need your allowance to assert his will - I never suggested such a thing.

The problem is that you are intellectually bankrupt and unable to understand my argument. My definition is precisely that an exceptional man is one who is able to assert their will on the world! - Im obviously not talking about affirming some mantra to myself. Im not here to judge what kind of will or vision you should have, thats completely missing the point.

I dont know what youre talking about. Is it not a legitimate question, whether your moral imperative is to strive for greatness and power and assert your will on the world, or whether you should be humble and "know your place?" Its not obvious at all to me, which is actually the nobler (and which is the more dysfunctional, for that matter) path to follow and since none of you are giving any input besides some lame moral plattitudes, Ill just keep going forward with my strongest foot. Im always open to have my mind changed by good arguments, but those are nowhere to be found.

I understand. Are you not open to the possibility that there might be no conflict?

Its not my ethical system! for fucks sake. All Im really telling you is that if you follow the categorical imperative, you will get one result; and if you belief yourself to be an exception to the rule, you will get a different result. None of this should be so surprising or hard to understand - unless you actively dont want to understand it. You can stay a slave and sedate yourself with your utopian fantasies for all eternity; you can moralize and virtue signal till youre blue in the face - none of this changes the reality that there are people out there going after it, taking themselves and their life serious and asserting their will on the world! - the world you live in.

There is no "my system." We are talking metaphysics here. You think Im making this shit up? Im simply telling you how power works - and all of this would be obvious to you, if you werent such a fucking sheep.

When will the coin drop? You say "everyone can proclaim themselves an exceptional man, be above the law and ethical guidelines and fearlessly impose their will on the world" - yeah, right, buddy. Unless you are extremely shrewd and self-righteous, you would quickly start to lose your sanity and come crawling back to your fellow sheep, pleading with them that you will do whatever they say is right and good, if only they accept you back into the security and warmth of the herd. Is that not whats really going on?

Or so you assume. Thats why I gave the example of the mob boss earlier. You can actually assert your will freely if you are determined enough. And look how far Tate got before giving up his will to power to some false idol - the muslim God. Also, isnt it funny that you people always associate psychopathic and criminal stuff with free self-expression?

"Lift up your hearts, my brothers, high, higher! And for my sake don't forget your legs as well! Raise up your legs, you fine dancers, and better yet, stand on your heads! This crown of the man who laughs, this crown wreathed with roses — I have placed this crown upon myself. I myself declare my laughter holy. Today I found no one else strong enough for that. Zarathustra the dancer, Zarathustra the light hearted, who beckons with his wings, a man ready to fly, hailing all birds, prepared and ready, a careless and blessed man. — Zarathustra the truth-teller, Zarathustra the true laugher, not an impatient man, not a man of absolutes, someone who loves jumps and leaps to the side — I myself crown myself! This crown of the laughing man, this crown of rose wreaths: you my brothers, I throw this crown to you! Laughter I declare sacred: you higher men, for my sake learn — to laugh!”

What do you mean "under my system?" No one's stopping anyone from proclaiming themselves exceptional.

Good one.

Banger. Not really in my wheelhouse, but it goes hard as fuck. As far as metal goes my favorite work (apart from TOOL) is probably Deftones White Pony - it's so fucking dark and desperate and has this eery beauty to it. This is a perfect song in my book.

I have the guts and will to power to proclaim myself an exceptional man - thats the only qualification you need.

What you miss is that > 99% of people are not even interested in that much responsibility and freedom - they just want an easy comfortable life in the herd; that we can supply.

Thats why you peasants can keep following your categorical imperative.

I already told you what my ethics are. I believe exceptional men should assert their will on the world. There are really only two choices you have: Either you believe in exceptional men, or you believe everyone should follow the golden rule. In other words, either you believe in the Übermensch or you believe in some egalitarian utopia - or you are just not thinking about this very much.

Before you say, "oh that's terrible, you should not detach yourself from such acts as murder - you should have a bad conscience" -- oh yeah? Out society has the same control mechanisms that are in place in the mob. We pay money to have a subset of people take care of all the ugly problematic people that make us feel bad about ourselves. We put those people in prisons and mental institutions, where we don't have to look at them any longer. Is this entire system not designed so as to salve our conscience and have us be as distanced from this as possible? Out of sight out of mind. We do this for good reason, of course - and so does the Don.

There is no conflict if I don't believe in the ethics. If I secretly thought everyone should act according to the CI and then break it, there would be conflict. But if I don't believe in it in the first place, why would there be conflict? You can push this philosophy to it's limits and at some point everyone will break. I'm sure Tate would have a bad conscience if he choked one of his girls to death or murdered one with an axe or whatever. It's arguable whether such acts would ever be necessary in the first place to assert your creative vision though, so I'm not sure this is a sensible question. The Don doesn't shoot his adversaries himself of course; he might not even have to tell his minions to do so, or ever even find out about it - so there is no bad conscience for him.