SeaMonster

Are you dating a Spice Girl? Nah, if you don't like her friends AND she insists you spend time with them, press the eject button. No offense, but she seems like an idiot.

The truth is that it's important for men to LOVE THEMSELVES MORE and TREAT THEMSELVES APPROPRIATELY so they are not harboring this desperation when it comes to women. It begins with the man. "Creepy" is just a synonym for "emanating vibes of desperation." This is a result of a lack of the above. This isn't complicated; it's just a lot of guys don't understand it, or resist it. They aren't even conscious of it. They give away all their power and self-control from the get-go because they lack self-love and self-worth. The fatal flaw in the PUA movement was that it was so heavily centered around Outer Game. It was just stuff you went out and DID, but the implicit assumptions of it were flawed. The implicit assumption of any man should be that YOU'RE the prize; YOU'RE the screener -- but you can't fake it. It has to be real and you have to work on yourself UNTIL IT IS. Otherwise you will suffer - 100%.

I literally said you can do hypnosis also. Anyway, you need to do SOMETHING that bypasses the ego filters, otherwise you're just mentally masturbating. Contacting the shadow is a heavy thing, bro. Most people are VERY unsettled by it. The ego provides a lot of comfort (even if it's a comfort laced with suffering.) You don't really understand why you act the way you do until you get in touch with the unconscious; you're just speculating, and even if you guess correctly it will be a dissociated kind of thing that won't touch you at your core. I guarantee you most people here have NOT done heavy shadow work because it's really disturbing, and it helps to be enlightened so it's easier to do it.

You need to lean into your "who cares?" side. Honestly, who cares what Leo thinks about religious issues? He is not an expert on the fine points of various religions, he's a content creator with opinions and a relatively small following. You can only "go meta" when you know enough of the particulars to abstract/generalize. Otherwise "going meta" is "going bullshit."

No, it's almost certainly not permanent. I would say meditating and going on hikes may be insufficient and you may need more vigorous physical activity (like team sports, or at least running/biking.) I wouldn't be able to function mentally/emotionally without basketball e.g. I would suggest picking a sport and building up to an hour every other day.

It wasn't screaming, it was very animated, emphatic speaking, accenting certain words.

Well, this is just a fancy shmancy way of saying abstract reasoning, which is what smart people do anyway. The problem with studying the structure of your mind is that the ego typically blocks/resists that kind of self-analysis. You need either serious psychedelics or serious hypnosis and even then, you are only going to get bits and pieces at a time.

There are two different types of reality that we can discuss here: objective reality and subjective. E.g. accurately predicting the course of events in the world is objective reality. "I have value and worth and live my life accordingly" is subjective reality <-- other people's opinion doesn't matter here; this belief needs to be non-negotiable. If you have trouble with the first, then you're human like anyone else. This doesn't affect the second in any way -- you deal with your shortcomings the same way anyone else does: by being humble, working on improving and apologizing when you mess up. This shouldn't affect your feeling of intrinsic self-worth (in fact, it should enhance it.)

This is true in the sense that you should be doing as much shadow work as is feasible at the current level of consciousness. Realistically, though, there's a hard ceiling on how much you'll be able to do, because the ego structure is what resists it. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either delusional or is lying to you. (I'm not sure "cleaning up" and "growing up" are necessarily separate things; conceptually they are, but immaturity can very much be a psychological issue, one and the same. I find it more useful to view "growing up" as a subset of "cleaning up.") The entire point of enlightenment is so you can go further in shadow work that you would otherwise have been able to, so it's a tricky dance doing enough of it to propel consciousness to a higher state, and then piggybacking on that to do more shadow work, etc. So he is substantially right here; meditation alone can just make you dissociate more; however, without advance in level of consciousness, you will be getting frustrated and beating your head against the wall trying to do more shadow work.

OK -- first I want to commend you on getting the bolded part right. That is precisely the name of the game here. The issue with intellect is that it can confuse and water down what is a clear, unambiguous directive from the higher self that needs to be acted upon, used as motivation, can be something primal that doesn't require intellectualization, etc. In other words, the mind/intellect can get in the way. A lot of people don't trust their gut instincts. They want to analyze, overanalyze, abstract, reify, etc. They're just not comfortable without the mental bullshit. This overcomplicates things and can stall one's life unnecessarily.

I'm an introvert. Being one doesn't mean you have trouble speaking to people, but too much of it is draining. Extroverts are drained by being alone too much. There are shy extroverts and socially confident introverts. That has nothing to do with the concepts.

You don't have to do anything. If you find that your empathy is a problem for you, and you don't want to be so easily bothered, then you can do something, First, you have to shitcan the spiritual dogma because you're overcomplicating the issue, which is as stated above. Spiritual enlightenment is about CHOICES. I repeat, it is about CHOICES. It is not about "aren't I supposed to blah blah blah?" No. It's about CHOICES. You're not SUPPOSED TO anything. So you decide, and then you make changes if your decision is not to stay pat. Shadow Work is about leaning into a part of you that may be neglected or undeveloped to generate psychic balance which will temper your extremes of empathy. Period.

You're shocked because you are absurdly brainwashed and think talking to a hot woman is some kind of accomplishment. Like I've never done that before. You are literally clueless, bro.

Shit...I had a friend in HS who was 5-4. Admittedly, a phenomenal soccer player, all-state caliber fullback with a powerful foot. He NEVER had any trouble. He was as alpha as anyone.

I think you're far ahead of many men because at least you're ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. So feel good about that. You have to flip the switch in your mind and acknowledge a simple truth. Just because a girl is hot doesn't mean she's worthy of being with you. This eludes a huge number of men because of their biology AND programming. In order to actually FEEL THIS you need to start treating yourself right and center your life around doing right by YOU, with all its implications, from consistently meeting the most basic needs to setting the most ambitious and far-reaching goals: in other words succeeding at all levels of the Maslow Pyramid. You go from the bottom up, of course, if you need to know how to start.

Wow...mindblowing... How is this any kind of new or original teaching? This is the core of Red Pill -- alpha fux, beta bucks. Are his followers completely r*tarded? Thanks for saving me 90 minutes of "already know" shit.

LOL. No offense, but you guys are stupid, or to be more precise "gullible". I'm 5-8 and it's NEVER been an issue for me. I get interest from women close to 6 feet. You simply refuse to understand the concept that what women say online (or even in real life) and how they actually behave aren't one and the same.

It already exists -- it's called Black Pill. Won't make your life better, but if anything misery loves company . Maybe changing one thing about your life would be a good start towards hope.

The more awakened you are, the fewer compulsions and more choices you have as far as behavior. You can choose to be either self-seeking or to serve others. "Manipulation" isn't good or bad. You can manipulate people to free them from their psychological problems or to extract resources from them. The choice is yours.

Make changes to reduce stress. Sleep better, eat better, exercise regularly, less screen time.

"Practicing facing fear" is a bullshit cope from the pickup community. Talking to a hot girl isn't some monumental accomplishment. The difference between talking to a hot girl and finding a hot girl worth talking to, then actually becoming romantically involved with her is huge. This thread is full of guys with low self-esteem, parroting 20 year old Mystery propaganda even if they don't realize it. Mystery had terrible self-esteem. His one way of assuaging it was to "Get 10s" (he couldn't keep them, but he got them.) Think about it -- an integral part of Mystery Method is FAKE SCREENING. It's a tactic, not genuine screening of a girl to see if you want to be with her. It is assumed if she is hot you want to be with her. The problem with the pickup community is that it always paid lip service to Inner Game, but was never actually serious about it. Too difficult, and most guys don't want to make difficult changes in their lives.

Imagine doing cold approach just to meet women. This seems like one massive way to avoid self-improvement, actually making friends and networking. Imagine thinking most gorgeous women are actually worth your time just by virtue of their being gorgeous. Not pickup doctrine/brainwashing at all.

I was going to respond to this on the other thread, but it's been closed, so... In my experience, it's completely the opposite. If you're really smart, the easiest women to bang are women right at your level of intelligence. The reason is obvious: they are more likely to be attracted to a guy at least AT or ABOVE their level of intelligence, so they have a smaller pool to choose from. (Not that they won't bang dumber "hot" guys, but they usually won't like it for long and complain about it.) They are super-easy in my experience. Less smart women do not shit test less, it's an instinctive response, not a conscious strategy involving complicated logic. The hardest women to get are hot dumb women imo, they tend not to like "nerds" and can sniff them out a mile away.

It's part of pickup community doctrine, and frankly it's nonsense. If you have poor social skills and poor game, it's a hell of a lot easier to practice both on women in your social circle than doing Cold Approach where you will probably be doing some variation of Mystery Method, which works very well if you're an attention-seeking narcissist like Mystery, but is an uphill climb for a lot of guys. Back to the social circle: that's where you practice your social skills first and foremost. If you can't even manage to make it work with a few select people who are presumably on your wavelength (whether intellectually, or have common interests or compatible personalities, etc.) then good luck going up to a complete stranger and having to jump through many more hoops to establish rapport, and attraction, and comfort, and then pull. As far as practicing game on women in your social circle, it's a simple kind of game: you mostly ignore them and talk to the guys, until they start hitting on you (from subtly to obviously.) So to put it in MM terms, you DHV, ignore, then wait for IOIs, then engage and run the latter part of MM. (When I say ignore, I don't mean "completely ignore", like don't talk to them at all, but simply be polite and social but don't show romantic interest at all.) Social circle provides comfort automatically, it provides social proof automatically -- it shortcuts many aspects of Cold Approach, all the hoops you have to jump through. All you need to do is generate attraction, and that's easy enough if there are enough women.

Sure, a treadmill is fine if that's what suits you better and what you will use regularly.