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How did you detox? @Epikur Is the tinnitus strong now?

I'm searching for cookware now. Is Carbon Steel the same?

Yeah, they say food loses it's pranic energy after 4 hours when cooked.

Microwave - not even once. Edit: But I'm basing this purely on me not trusting microwaves for some reason and I once saw a guy on youtube watering plants with microwaved and regular water. The microwaved one died in a short amount of time.

Why didn't he answer it the first two times? And did he give a concrete answer in the end?

Too bad. Because she has a really interesting take on life. What we're all about on this forum. But I understand.

Watch the interview. Please. She never missed a day. She carefully calculated her nutrients and got the same ammounts from plants. This went on for 20 years. Until her health started failing her. She lost the ability to have babies, it destroyed her uterus or something, can't remember. Besides all other stuff. All of that got fixed when she finally went back to eating meat. Why? Edit: But perhaps there are exceptions who could do whole life without meat. But I seriously doubt it.

No, I already said I don't lke meat that much. If it were up to me, I wouldn't eat it at all. But from learning about health problems in vegans and what I have mentioned I had to accept things as they are, as they've always been. Before we started meddling with things and lost ourselves. Listen to that interview, please. And tell me what you think, if it really is this crazy.

I don't want to suffer but at the same time I have to accept that this is life, too. It's a tough game. But my goal is to not be angry at the dynamics of life, if it happens to me. No one wants to die, but at the same time, we all will. This is the hardest part to come to terms with. But If I deny myself meat, I'm suffering again and destroying myself. I just can't win. So what should I do now? Either I kill something else and be judged that I don't love it, or slowly slowly keep destroying myself and with that, not love my own body, myself. So when I think about it, it doesn't make any sense. There is no logic in this. That's why I had to strip all of the thinking and go to point zero again. To the source that made me and makes everything else live and go on. Like it always has. The circle of life. Everything we do is because it serves us in some way or another. I can't escape this game. Why was I made this way if I'm not allowed to live through it. To me this is the point of being human. To accept everything. I will hurt and I will be hurt. It's not hurting others because of some sick fantasy, but it's literally to survive. This is the difference. Of course if you believe you can really live normal life untill the end without meat, then we won't come together. But I'm really curious at how many healthy vegans there are, who have been vegan for decades. I'm willing to bet there aren't any.

This argument would be valid if raping others was needed to survive. I think meat IS needed. I don't know if there is a single healthy long term (20+ years) vegan out there. And if there are, it's an anomaly, a somekind of exception, or that person won't be healthy much longer. I did, however, see results on people's bodies from long term veganism. Men growing boobs. Or looking ill or just weak, or just off. Totally different from our perception of a healthy body. I think you can delay the effects for years, but sooner or later it starts taking its toll. Check the video I posted earlier. The woman did everything to supplement missing nutrients, did everything by the books, without exception, religiously. Tracked her macros, everythin, the whole while nine yards. In the end her body started failing her on all levels and she had to come to truth with herself. It's an eye opening interview.

Yeah. There's people eating just and ONLY meat and have been curing their autoimmune diseases and having really good results generally with their health, and saying they never fealt this good before. The carnivore diet. I was pretty shocked when I learnt about this. Total opposite of what I was taught before about meat.

But isn't life both? The good as well as the suffering? You can't have one without the other. This is how i understand the Yin and the Yang. If I deny one part, do I then really accept life in it's wholeness? I don't think this is an ego game. Quite the opposite, the ego doesn't want to accept the truth and the cruelty, so it makes up reasons for stuff like this. In my opinion. I've done a lot of thinking and had to strip down all my beliefs and had to go deep and accept everything in it's entirety. I had to strip everything and this is what I have been left with. So it must be the only logical solution. Edit: I wonder if Leo is vegan and what his thoughts are.

I was in your place before. I was vegan too. But the more I contemplated it, the less sense it made. Until I just stopped. I also saw the toll it makes on long term vegans. You can see the body doesn't react properly and starts showing all kinds of problems. So in nature everything kills each other. This is how life is set up. How it was always set up. We have just become too detached with ourselves and with it and with our nature and we are trying to go against it. Because we have become soft. If you look at the animal kingdom and how one animal dies for another, you see it's fucking terrifying. They are being eaten alive and dying slowly in agonizing pain. The animals that dye quickly and painlessly are rare. This is how it is meant to be, unfortunatelly, me liking it or not. So who am I to say I know better than life. It was created in this way and no other. I guess for a reason. So I've come to tearms wth myself and if I really want to accept life as a whole, I have to accept the dark side, aswell as good side. Which is difficult. So I think meat is absolutely neccessary for humans to live healthy. This is how nature made us. No point in denying that. The only thing I agree with would be the nature in how the animals live, while in cages and everything concerning the meat industry. It could be done better. Edit: I've posted this interview two times now, I'll do it one last time. Because this was my final tipping point. Everything I've contemplated, she affirmed, and explained it really well. She's been a vegan for 20 years, before having to change back to meat, because her body couldn't handle it anymore. So that's why I'm not very confident that any person can survive just on vegan diet alone. If you're not affraid of your views being challenged, I urge you to watch it. I'd like to see your opinion. https://www.sacredcow.info/lierre-keith?fbclid=IwAR2Q3XCB7obwMBA7CMI2SkiLcoAWjSUI8M1dT_iBWA4iGSgZBnv18Q8NjtQ

I know you mean well, but if this keeps repeating, we won't be able to have any conversations anymore, because everything always boils down to this and we can give this answer to anything.

Or not. It's your choice.

Are you against farmed meat or against all meat? For example, if a cow had a life on the pastures and no stress.

If you need a boost, here's a channel called Nevillution. This is run by a girl, sharing her own experiences using this law, as well as stories from others.

Neville Goddard

When I look at you all being so smart and having these conversations and whatnot- I'm pretty amazed at what I've created.

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And rides bears. Shirtless. I'm sure he'd ride Elona too.

Evolution requests of us to eat meat. We need to survive too.

Untill you'll be conscious enough to change the whole timeline, a similar approach would be Neville Goddard's technique of manifesting the desired reality. Check him on YT.

What did he say?

It's late here. I guess I didn't read carefully.