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@Ineedanswers exactly there isnt any justice here.

@EternalForest well i feel bad for them. We really torture them all their lives. Keep them in captivity were they easily get depressed and diseased and at the end kill them for their meat. And at the same time none of us meat eaters would be ready to experience the same thing done to those animals.

@Breakingthewall how can a human see that war, torture and suffering is love since it threatens its own survival? There is no way a human can call these things Love by staying a human. We either have to be God or a psychopath to see these things as Love.

@Carl-Richard im not fully seeing it. Could you please go deeper on this or give some examples?

@CuriousityIsKey well ive taken it a few times in a retreat. It really is relative what you are going to experience because it just brings up various feelings, traumas and knots that were buried deep down in your self (the unconscious part of yourself) and then you just have to face them and try to understand what you experienced(Its maybe helpful if you can talk to an experienced shaman or individual about your trip). After these knots have been realeased you will mostly have a wonderful trip. So we can say you are going to experience exactly what you need to experience to help you further along your path.

@Leo Gura i understand what you are saying. But the thing is we are the cost for God experiencing this all encompassing love. Just be real with me would you Leo be a crippled human that lives as a slave in poverty and only experienced war and torture to only get butchered by a tyrant at the end if his life time and still call it Love? If it were so then anything that is happening has to be love even people commiting suicide from this forum. You can correct me if im missing any building blocks here.

@hoodrow trillson The thing is there is a problem in both cases. If God dreamed a perfect happy world it would be boring. But if God also dreams a world with war, torture, genocide there is too much suffering & pain where the individuals even kill themselfs to escape this reality. So in both cases God cant create a dream where he is satisfied.

@Gili Trawangan Somethings are a bit clearer now. But still the question persists. Why wouldnt God dream a blissful happier life for its beings. And also God dreams war, torture etc for people (maybe masochists) who want to experience it. This would be a win-win situation.

@SgtPepper yeah maybe its an motivation to keep us seeking for the Truth. However if one is in a finite form, he has a hard time understanding that his suffering is actually a Love from God.

@Inliytened1 i totally get that. But why would god dream itself into lets say a human form that suffer trough all their life. Whats the benefit for that human (or in this case God tricking itself to be a human)? You can only enjoy life from the God perspective all beings and manifestations have to suffer for Gods pleasure?

Exactly. But I cant understand why we are called devils if we dont love war, genocide torture etc..

@Thought Art i watched the new video and all that taught is why war, battles etc. exist and that conflict is a result of seperation that is trying to survive. So the broader term would be survival or seperation. Its not hard to understand I mean you can comtemplate that yourself. But for me the question was, why all of this suffering since God could imagine everything why not a reality where any organism and ego could enjoy and be happy with their reality? For me God just wanted this universe and reality to include suffering, horror and pain. Thats what God also loves and we as humans just have to accept this. There is sadly nothing we could do about it but accept it.

What ive read sofar from the replies is that suffering and pain is intentially a fundemantel mechanism for seperation and survival. So yes, God loves turture and pain and we dont have any choice but to accept it. For me evryone who thinks this is all about bliss, love and free will has only seen one side of the coin.

@Seraphim but since god is the only thing that there is or exists how can be there any co-creation. Everything and everyone is god.

I mean im open minded to it but still there isnt a single evidence to this in our direct experience. Sure some people report memories of past lifes but again consciousness is so infinite it makes you believe whatever you are thinking or any image that is appering infront of your „eyes“. some say the idea of reincarnation is just here to make you realize that there was never anything reincarnating or to reincarnate. But still alot of folks are really convinced about this reincarnation why is that?

Since God is Love, Joy, Peace and Oneness why would I ever leave those states for this nightmare called Life as a human being. I mean its just a struggle chasing things that wont make you happy and only experience bad horrific things. Its literally Hell and I know thats because im thinking Im a seperate being from the rest of the world but since I and everything is God why would i make it sooo Hard for me to see that im God and everything else is God?

Ive been a while now in this spiritual journey. (I know its not really a journey) had a few glimpses here and there, some expiriences with DMT but not any Awekening. However one thing that keeps my mind boggling is the question. If we are all One and theres only Oneness how can this Singularity seperate itself so well. I mean what is the Structure behind it (a big role is the Ego or the sense of me)?

@OBEler self made vegan soup??

Thanks a lot i will ponder or rather feel the answer to these questions.

@kray One of the quickest methods can be shamanic breathing. Leo has a guided video on shamanic breathing which takes 30mins. But before doing it be sure to watch the whole video. Trust me that technique is effective and im also a guy thats having a hard time medidating even for 10mins.

Interesting, it shows me that we should try make or self surrender to whatever we are in or whatever we are doing. Its not always the search for joyful, peaceful experiences but also being content without them.

@Leilani Sadly the closest i got was when i had a sudden click in my mind or shift in consciousness that everything was God. I looked at my hands, my whole body at every object of the room and everything was the same. I bursted in laughter because the thing that I was searching for was me, all the time. I realized how simple it is to see God (I might not had a deep experience tough) it is so simple that it is hard to find. I interacted with other people and also realised they were God and neither do I nor they exist. For the first time I realised how f beautiful everything and everyone was. Immense beauty filled wirh joy and gratitude. But there was still a seperation. A sense of me seperate from God. As the days passed i started to backlash and now im trying to find my real Self, but some of these questions keep me a bit unnerving

Exactly, maybe that boredom is just another game of the ego.

So whatever i believe to be is what is? (Relatively speaking)

Yeah thats true but the thing that is troubling my mind is that this Oneness aka God is incomplete always searching for other States and not being everfulfilled. Most teachings say its all perfect and fullfilled or is it so perfect that it encompasses imperfectness?