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@Salvijus @DLH I like when people can have a full discussion and not leave halfway through. That needs alot of back and forth. Its kind of egoic but we are getting down to the single thing. The video you posted was spiritual ego. We are not telling people how to be we are having a philosophical discussion. We aren't talking about ourselves or telling people to be this or that we are discussing God. The video you posted was definition of spiritual ego.

Invented by God discovered by humans.

I'm scared of it too

@Salvijus then next time you wake up for 24 hours lay in bed staring at the darkness behind your eyes and come back and say you did it and you are satisfied. You are scared of it thats why you get up in the morning and don't want to and won't do it.

@SalvijusThats how absolute does. It ignores that its left hand exists to focus on its right hand. Next time you wake up in the morning stay in bed and keep looking behind your eyes all day. When you cant help but get up then you are denying your absolute form to focus on your right hand.

@SalvijusThats how it denies itself it cant look away from itself.

@SalvijusThey cant exist at the same time, absolute has to ignore that absolute exists in order to be relative. Introducing the idea of relative is denying the 1. The relative cannot survive if its absolute. This is what the story of Jesus is the relative became absolute 1 time and said never again. Its a story about how the absolute stayed absolute in the relative and even that didnt satisfy it eternally because we are still existing.

@SalvijusYOU ARE DOING THAT. You are saying its absolute and relative and 1 at the same time its contradicting. It cant be absolute and relative at the same time. And now you are saying im doing it, when im not. Absolute eats relative instantly. Its whole an complete but its also fractured and broken. Introducing the idea of whole automatically introduces the idea of fractured. You keep saying its 2 but also 1. In the absolute sense its not.

@SalvijusNo you are trying very hard to put a positive spin on something thats not always positive. Thats a cope. I want people to get in touch with the negative because they are running from it. If you keep being positive when you are both negative and positive then you are fooling yourself.

@SchizophoniaI would drink 40s of beer. Alcohol dosent taste good. Why not drink pop or juice for taste instead? Alcohol naturally taste terrible.

@SalvijusYou are trying very hard to deny yourself.

@SalvijusIts like saying my left hand dosent exist while im using my right hand. You can pretend its gone but the left hand will always come back. Left hand being your unsatisfacton with being alone. You can pretend the coin has 2 sides but only for so long.

@SalvijusThe why are you seperating them? You are gish galloping all over the place. You are saying absolute and relative are 1 but we should consider both. You are already considering both with the absolute perspective. Thats what absolute means all of them.

@SalvijusAbsolute means all. You are saying theres a truth and lie and we need to take the lie with the truth to have the full picture. Why?

@SchizophoniaI use it to get drunk and dont like the taste. After awakening I cant get drunk like I used to so I stopped.

@Salvijus How can it be dual then? Like you were previously stating it was. You are saying its one now but before it was 2 things. A coin dosent have two sides. A coin is one thing. Saying a coin has 2 sides is a fantasy of someone outside the coin.

@Leo Gura I meant to put satisfaction after that. No such thing as eternal satisfaction. The reason we are born is God wasn't eternally satisfied or we wouldn't have been born. We are born cause God wasn't satisfied with being itself anymore. Thats why inert becomes Shakti.

@Salvijus no such thing as eternal you just said everything always changes. You are contradicting your statements. Gods breaking the devine law by having eternal satisfaction.

@Salvijus all that means is God has never found something that its created that can eternally satisfy it.

@Salvijus if one side of the coin says im alone the other side of the coin says oh my God I'm alone! Why does it change forms? Because it can't handle being one way forever. Its too long. It dosent end.

@Salvijus darkness and darkness coping with itself. Non seperate cope. Theres no cope in the light its part of the same side of the coin.

@Salvijus only when it gets lonely and let's itself gaslight itself that there's another side. The truth is there isn't. We are talking about eternally alone. Cant stop it. There's an entire universe of cope you can see from your window. I guess you can say its a duality if you take gods cope as the other part of a the duality. The Shakti is gods cope. And its an eternal part but not of light of darkness.

@Salvijus theres 1 side a void of nothing. Spirituality is coming to terms with this. Its non dual. That means 1 sided. The other side is a fantasy. You are alone and want to make up that there is a duality on extreme levels. Look at the duality this is 1 cm of the length of the entire universe of cope.

@Salvijus theres no coin. Another manufactured gaslight of the light. In the beggining there was darkness and then a coin appeared. How? You can have silence without sound. you cant have sound without silence. You are doing duality when its non duality. Its just 1 dark silent thing.

@Salvijus that's what you are thats where love and wisdom come from. Light gaslights the primordial emptiness into thinking it comes from the light. And that the darkness needs the light when the light needs the darkness to have meaning. Like a song needs silence to be a song. Silence dosent need a song to be silence. Light will say you need me to exist! Its a battle between me and you! You need to join me! No! I don't.