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@Justin my mindDont let people tell you just try.

@aurum But when I ask you if I'm wrong you cant say no. You are claiming to know when you cant know by your definitions. How do you know I'm wrong and self deceiving? Especially when I made a claim that I didn't even say was right it was a question. You are arguing your version that being far sighted is natural and near sighted is survival I said plausible you said I'm self deceiving. I'm asking how can you possibly know that under your framework i cant know my self deceptions but you are telling me I am self deceiving, but not where or how. Is this some guru thing?

@Natasha Tori MaruThis is where his logic fails. He is trying to tell me my reality is 100 percent how I perceive it, but trying to use that logic to tell me I am wrong, and therefore reality is not 100 percent how I perceive it. You cant say you are 100 percent right but wrong about being 100 percent right. Its contradictory. I was never the one to say I was 100 percent right he did so it he must be wrong. Student - What did I get on the test? Teacher - You got 100 percent on the test Student - sweet Teacher - You are self deceived that you got 100 percent Student - You gave me the marks and told me I got 100 percent. So you deceived me. That means you were wrong Teacher - No you are wrong

@aurumWell then you would want to at least identify a little less.

@aurumWhat we look at in reality is what we identify with. We are essentially darting around a wavy field with our eyes looking for things we identify with. If you didnt identify with anything your eyes would naturally go near sighted.

@aurumWhich way of perception is correct in this case?

@aurumThose beliefs are part of my perception. You arent believing what you are saying. I understand what you are saying but it contradicts itself. You are saying that when I go near sighted reality is near sighted and when I am far sighted reality is rigid and that I am deceiving myself by saying that one is survival mode and one isnt. Or one exists when the other one is there. But you are part of my perception if you say that my perception is 100 percent right, then you cant disagree with my beliefs. As my belief systems form my perception of reality.Obviously this statement is not true by the fact that you are disagreeing with me. You are reality saying my perception is 100 percent true and but also not true to me. In both cases you are wrong. If I am paranoid and feel like people are coming after me reality will be perceived differently by me. It will have a different qualia. You are saying that the ideas of people coming after me is wrong but the qualia of people coming at me is right. But one dosent exist without the other. The idea are the qualia. One state we are born in one state we are not. One state comes for survival purposes the other happens again when there is nothing to be scared of. We return to this state later in life when we are going to see God soon.

@aurum How can I deceive myself into thinking that my perception of reality is wrong, when you are the one that told me its wrong? The logical conclusion would be that you are wrong and as the king of reality I should tell you you are wrong because you are reality trying to deceive myself. I am saying my perception is right, you are telling me my perception is wrong, then you are saying its right and I am trying to trick myself into thinking its wrong, when you are the one (reality), telling me my perception is wrong. I dont understand. Are you saying you are wrong?

@Natasha Tori Maru Yes now we already know how to survive and can go back to not knowing.

@aurum So it can be not how I perceive it?

So then how can you say my theory is wrong. Or donald Hoffman cause I perceive it to be true. You have to agree with me under that framework. @aurum

@aurum That is badly wrong. You can literally disprove this by doing what my post says. Your eyes have two different ways they can perceive reality near sighted and far sighted. Is reality blurry or clear?

@aurumYou could. I am using this theory based on Donald Hoffmans theory where the more you see the less of truth you see. The Interface Theory of Perception, proposed by Donald D. Hoffman, suggests that our perception of reality is not a mirror of objective truth, but rather an adaptive interface designed to guide behavior and enhance survival. It posits that evolution has shaped our perceptual systems to provide useful, species-specific symbols, much like a computer interface, rather than accurate representations of the external world So in this theory the more clearly you see the less truth you see. Not truth is fear. Everytime you get scared you jump into looking what it is in your perceptual field. A sound turns into there is something out to get me I need to look to see what it is for survival purposes.

@Lyubov Thats okay it will be funny. The only way to beat them is to go crazier in a funny way. Stop taking it seriously. Treat every word that comes out of someone's mouth as a joke. When people talk pay attention as if you are waiting for a punchline.

I am contemplating all day non stop. You dont have to sit there and do it you can do other things. The distraction is part of your contemplation. Your brain is telling you links to what you want to know and you are saying not that. But you contemplate with your imagination and your logic. You might not think what your imagination is telling you has anything to do with what you are trying to contemplate but it does. Contemplate is you put a subject in your mind and let your imagination and intellect fuck around with it.

@LyubovI guess when crisis come and you must leave then you should go.

States of conciousness happen gradually and slowly. You can reach a high state and then feel high but over years and years you could be going lower and not even realize because its so slow. A psychedelic will shoot you into a different conciousness state so fast that you can see the state you were in is much lower than you thought. When I was hyper depressed I didn't even know it. My mother told me I was but I felt normal. She was like you aren't taking care of yourself I think you are depressed. But to me it felt normal. If someone else were to switch places they would instantly feel like they entered a nightmare. So Leo could think hes in a high state but he could be in a low state without knowing. It can happen to anyone and they won't know its just how life is or feels. One day you are excited to get out of bed the next the same the next the same for years. Then one day you wake up and think I want to lay in bed a little longer. The next you do the same the next the same. Then a year later you want to lay in bed more then more and a year later you dont want to get out of bed in the morning the next the same ect. Till you are lying in bed all day for no reason not bathing or interacting and don't want to get up ever again. Are you depressed? When did the shift from not depressed to depressed happen? You wont notice the shifts so you cant know.

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You should never abandon your country.

You'd have to make some sort of compound or designated area for them to live.

The thing about states of conciousnes is you cant know the state your in until it changes. He can't know of he's in a high conciousness state.

@James123 Sorry I meant loving. You have to surrender to hate.

You aren't excepting everything you are living everything. Thats fake acceptance.

I like to think God has cycles and it sees it cycles from the perspectives of its creation. It has no free will and goes through various emotional cycles like a human. It dosent know its own cycles but the humans do from watching it. It knows the humans cycles by watching them.

Society has fed us a fictional idea of love. Its not between 2 people thats not what it means.