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@OBEler You have to sing their song a bunch of times.

If solipsism was true but infinite, all the Gods could come into one mind or atom and live together as if they are not the same. When you leave or die you see you were never in the atom but the atom was a place that all the other Gods deemed as a host. The host could be a single God that sacrifice itself for the other Gods to play in. The host, Jesus Christ.

@Xonas Pitfall All the Gods are nothing. Thats where every God comes from the ultimate God Shiva, that which is not, but exists. Leo teaching are confusing you as if going more infinite changes anything about the fundamental absolute God of nothing. I think hes saying there could be infinite more nothingnessess but you can't know.

@Wilhelm44 You are in the absolute level before you are here. You are more in the absolute level than you are on a planet right now. Pretend you walk around life and there are voices narrating and talking about what other people are doing. The voice in your head asks you questions and then you might answer or try to come to a conclusion. The voices are not physically real but they exist somewhere in your empty head. Your head must be empty for a voice to come and for you to hear it. You in the forum are like a voice coming out of an empty head asking whats the true nature and I am like another voice coming from an empty head saying its you. The empty head is the absolute and we are both just voices in it that don't really exist. So you asking there must be another, no we are spawning from the same source. Like you can have multiple people inside your head that can talk to you or argue with you. I the voice am not the hand but we are emerging from it. You or I don't exist we come out of a void of nothing and thats the absolute. Theres nobody to exist. If your head is a closed system with fake people in it then the room is one then the planet is one and the universe is one all coming from one empty space just making shit up. There is no you or other people its a void of nothing spawning thoughts and imaginations. Ultimately its a void of nothing but it has magical powers like your mind does. You could ask why don't you stop doing it then and I'd tell you I'm not even real I'm an imaginary voice in your head. If you were a finger on a hand and the other fingers are talking to you they aren't in other finger they are inside your finger that you think you are in. When you transend to the hand so does every other finger cause there is nothing in the other fingers. If you drew smiley faces on your fingertips and went into a finger to talk to the other smiley faces you would see you were the hand with smiley faces on its fingertips pretending like they were other concious fingers.

@Wilhelm44 Cause there's nothing else to do but wake up the other fingers and embody the hand. You just go around telling the fingers about the hand that they are so they can stop stressing out about nothing. After buddha enlightened infinite being he asked God whats next and God showed him infinite other beings to enlighten. Thats life theres no end game life is the game.

@Wilhelm44 Those other fingers are you pretending to not be the hand. You are imagining that the fingers are someone else they are you the hand.

Yea but when you see you are the tentacle you can go up to be the octopus and realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles. Even the other tentacles you thought were other people. You can unify at the top and see you are all the tentacles. The second you realize you are the octopus and all its tentacles every tentacle awakens. If there are 5 fingers on a hand and you are one finger and you think the other fingers are different people then you awaken and see you are the whole hand making up the 5 people in the fingers. Who else on the hand is going to awaken if you see you are the hand making up the fingers. The other fingers could awaken and see they are the hand but they would be seeing they are you, the hand and you are them. How can the other fingers awaken if you are already the hand that the fingers are asleep on

@Leo Gura His model says truth exists but he makes no claims into what it is. Donald Hoffman says God is real but he says we will never get to experience it because its outside experience and is infinite. His whole study is on human perception of God.

@Leo GuraI dont know if you know but Donald Hoffman is not talking about God he is talking about the human body. He is talking about the first person view of a human being, he is saying that science is measuring the first person perspective of a human and that the first person perspective of a human being is 2 Dimensional. I dont see how you can say its false unless God gave you a revelation into the way a human body is functioning beyond mathematics. How can you say its false when its science/math/psychology based and makes no claims about God or anything metaphysical.

@Wilhelm44Like there is no story or concepts to what is happening and there is no feeling its like its silently dead. Like everything you have ever felt about life is made up by you in your head. None of the qualia has come from outside your body. So there is always a completely dead void between you and other objects. A human is an object and so is a dog or a bird, or your neighbour or mom or dad. Between you and them is a dead space where nothing that makes you a human exists. Like what inside the television screen feels like. Theres nothing there. Its like wearing a vr headset playing a video game and realizing that the light you are seeing has no emotions and no characters in it all the characters are made up inside the players mind its just random code going off in light.

It being so nice is a flaw.

@theleelajoker just something to think about and play with i have been doing it it is fun.

@theleelajoker it seems like this is agreeing with my statement. If you put yourself in the frequency of something the opposite happens. This is quoting your response to schizophrenia. Also maybe you deciding that you really wanted to make it work reversed into the other person not wanting it to work. Maybe had you not wanted it to work the other person automatically has to make it want to work.

@Schizophonia then you could say my system works exactly like I say it does could you not.

@theleelajoker No i have never had sex with a woman who instantly deemed hot. Like get nervous hot. Every attractive woman i have ever got with was with someone who i didn't think anything about really. They were very attractive but I never went this woman is very attractive then had sex. My first girlfriend i didn't even like. But after like 6 months I started too and then she was super hot. It feels like every attractive woman i had sex with I didnt even pay attention too at first. I have also never hit on a woman in my life consciously. So this is hard data. I have anecdotes of 3 to 4 woman who i found not attractive text me and ask to give me a blowjob.

But intelligent and not dumb are the same thing on a line. We are not talking about physical things we are talking about purely metaphysical data. So a beautiful scene can change into a horrific scene without changing any form. In the metaphysical domain the triangle can change into a circle. A beautiful person who is obsessed with their beauty can walk around with other beautiful people and say they are beautiful but if they are identified with that they wouldn't say these people are more beautiful than me. They will have the secret that they think they are more beautiful than them and they are ugly in comparison. The only thing I can say is try both. From my experience any woman I deem ugly instantly tries to have sex with me and any woman I deem attractive is out of reach precisely because of what I am doing to myself. IMO. I would say if you have opinions about someone reverse them and see what happens.

@Schizophonia but the mirror is backwards. When you look in the mirror its the same thing reversed. If you create a duality. This person is smart the duality must exist and someone has to take the opposite. I'm not sure how it works i will try to hate everyone and think everyone is boring and I will let you know if they love me and think I'm exciting. I remeber sadhguru saying if you have a smart phone you must be the dumb one.

@Wilhelm44 Yes. There is a void of not expression between everyone and everyone is solipsistically in their own heads. You cannot know what someone is feeling towards you. You dont nessesarily get to choose but you are making it up and can never know.

I think what you see in other people is what they see in you reversed. So if you think someone is highly intelligent they by default think you are retarded.

@Wilhelm44 if you cuddle on the couch with a lover. There are no feelings between you. You create your feelings and their feelings that they are loving and cuddling and loving you. Between your bodies its void of everything human.

@SchizophoniaThe term "Wake Back To Bed" (WBTB), a lucid dreaming technique, was coined by Marc VanDeKeere, a lucid dreaming enthusiast. He developed the technique and its associated terminology while running a lucid dreaming blog in the late 1990s. The technique involves waking up during the night, staying awake for a short period, and then returning to sleep to potentially induce lucid dreams.

@Meeksauce are you saying you need a second to verify that the first has them all? In that case I would argue then you need a third to meditate the 2 cause the 2nd could be lying.

@Meeksauce Not from your point of view it can't. Leo said in his video if something that wasn't you came into your experience its automatically you because you cant know. Once you become aware of it its automatically assume to be generated from you. Even if there could be other Gods then the Gods appearing to you could just be your infinite power.

Imagine God is a very loud very static screen. When you die you merge with the static field which is just pure noise all voices ever all imagery combined into one continuous moving image. Like this, this video contains every movie every sound at the same time. You die you see you were just looking at that very closely and making out certain pictures and sounds. When you see it you cant think and cant move theres no story no person to ask if its always been there. Is it solipsism now? You can look at this movie and see patterns happening in chaos, you can tell your brain to make something appear in the chaos.You life is a pattern in chaos of static. For a meditation technique put this on with headphones full screen and create a life inside the static. This is what is happening behind your eyes in the blackness.

Its known to make your dreams crazy, that an putting a nicotine patch on before you sleep.