Optimized Life

I haven't researched enough into him, but I call b.s To suggest that someone like Jeff Bezos who devoted his life to the company doesn't provide value sounds completely ludicrous. I bet you still enjoy your amazon prime?

Getting raped is less severe of a crime than the crime of falsely (Intentionally) accusing someone of rape Getting raped is a horrible traumatizing experience, but nothing is worse than spending life in jail for something you didn't commit, that is the highest tragedy. They are both extremely bad & I'm not saying that the latter is worse to trivialize rape, I'm saying that the false penalty is so bad that's even worse than rape, yet in the media & people's minds we don't tend to even think about this. We think so simplistically & archetypally of "the evil rapist pedo murderer when will we have a society without these people!!" Yet we don't also get horrified in shivers at the narcistic woman who falsely accuses a guy of this & that & he goes to jail for it, she should be classed in the same category as the murderer and rapist, and because she's subtle & more likely to get away with it, she's more dangerous, she's like the female savvy version of the serial killer, she steals mens lives away through lies & deceptions instead of direct violence, but it's all ultimately the same thing. ... There's men like this too and they're equally evil however it is distinctly more dangerous for the female versions of this because she can leverage her beauty & illusory image of fragility to disarm & manipulate & to play up the victim narrative; the narcissistic woman is so dangerous she is arguably more frightening than a serial killer (Ok bit too dramatic there, but still pretty bad). There needs to be more of a focus & commitment to the innocent until proven guilty too many men are abused by the system for this bias, especially black young men who lack social power & resources & more easily stereotyped by judges. Most men aren't rapists but a lot more people are sociopathic narcissists, who love to defame others for their own gain or petty satisfaction, there should be severe crime punishment for women & people who falsely accuse of rape, the punishment should be as strong as the rape penalty. I be t you this thread will be deleted or locked ... but silly af it does because I'm making some genuinely insightful points here, free speech & authenticity is important.

Hm, I am very tired so my paragraph is just an opinion. I don't kknow the answer, I don't htink any1 knows what the ratio or percantage is, same with Leo or any of us, no one truly knows the exact ratio or how much is genetics, I'm unsure whether its will be possible to map this stuff with science. I'm not sure that upbringing has a huge impact on amibition, but it certainly does on effectiveness, education, factors that contribute to success. Ambition seems very genetic to me but success is more complicated.

Yes I agree with that. obviously other factors like self confidence come into play which I would say aren't as genetic however if the highly ambitious person has low self confidence, he'll either commit suicide or eventually become confident & once he does he will start killing it, that is my intuition because as an ambitious yet not always that effective person I know how fucking frustrating it is when you fail & you don't live up to your standards, when I don't work hard it feels like I'm constantly being strangled & burned on a hot stove, for a normal person it is a relief that they get to relax. When I went on "holiday" last time I did, the "friends" (Mediocre idiots) I was with just wanted to "relax", literally fucking drink alcohol on a beach & do absolutely nothing. Whereas I was constantly thinking about levelling up in a holiday way as a form of "relaxtion" for myself : I wanted to approach girls & work on my game constantly, not drink because it numbs me, I want to make connections to build networks, take photos to practice photography, build a mental map of the city in my brain & practice all the different routes for going round the city, I wanted to workout still & set a challenge with myself to approach the hottest models there walking near the beach. I wanted to practice foreign languages & learn culture & customs with the natives, I was even thinking abot strategically networking there to find people who could let me stay in the future = free or discounted travel. I'm not saying all this as if It's profound or genus it's pretty basic, my point is that's an example of a genetic pallet for amibition whereas I just couldn't, couldn't understand why these guys were happy to sit around & drink & do nothing all day, it didn't make sense to me even for like 5 minutes, with a hot girl I get it & u get nice sex but I mean on their own lol, & they were so happy to waste money on multiple resterautns & shit it didn't make sense to me, I realized that holiday that I'm a different person & I just can't interact with low T low ambition men, it's a horrible experience. I'm not the most effective nor am I that intelligent (although not sure how I even define intelligent) but I am certainly creative and ambitious, and I can only really attribute it to genetics. However I didn't always have access to / abilitiy to leverage either of those, BUT I dont say that means that I suddenly became that way from environment, no. It's I had both as latent potentials, but due to environment, low self esteem, diet, ect... my ambition was not I couldn't act on it, but that doesn't mean I never had it, I did have it, but I didn't understand myself enough & furthermore I was very miserable whereas obether kids would be happy & I didn't now why, part of it was due to not realizing that I just needed to fulfill my ambition. So in a sense environment blunts out the amibition, but it's still truly there under the surface. So yes environment has an affect & can block/dilute the amibition buty go it never truly goes away. So ambition + bad environemnt = recipe for distaster because truly amibitious guys never just stop being that way, they will turn to toxic or illegal methods to fulfill their amibitious yearnings, or they be stuck in mediocrity but will kill themselves because the incogruency & the pain is so strong & unbearable.

Depends on how your brain works. I Immediately found going meta & the social matrix beneficial & it had nothing to do with the fact of whether I'd watched prior episodes or not it was more based on practical life experience & the way my mind works. You have no authority in saying whether a struggling broke kid should watch going meta or not, it depends on the individual. It might change his life somewhat because of some sort of serendipitous connection to his unique problems or life experiences. I sense your paragraph is a parroted psuedo intellectual copycat of 100s of people will say and the idea of "advanced" is completely subjective and truly has no meaning, You could call spiral dynamics advanced but I'd say it's irrelevant & oversimplified & most people would be better off not knowing about it, I don't find it interesting nor I do I care not because of my "stage of development" (as if there's some sort of literal fucking algorithm for what that means when it's technically all just conceptual ideas theories in your mind) ... but because I genuinely don't care it's boring it's not that profound & it's a limited modal, And I'm allowed to have my own interests & not all of this can be reduced to my "stage" when actually my mind would never be inclined towards that shit & I think there are way better things to think about even just from an intellectual stand point not just pragmatic, a lot of dogmatic parrots on here but this is partly why I respected the social matrix & meta more, I found it a more genuine instance of creativity & independent thought whereas spiral dynamics has done something very annoying & toxic to the blind affiliate leo creating a lot of parrot speech & nonsense. But I found meta & social matrix interesting and practical, because it just fucking is for me. There's no point trying to come up with a formula for this shit, just watch a couple videos that you are interested in regardless of the date. And this idea that we should be watching 200 of leos videos is just ludricous & medicore, there's many other better youtubers out there & so no one really should be watching that many of his videos, it would lead to "lack of requisite variety" and so should realize listening to Leo is an oppurtunity cost if you listen to him too much, listen to others as well & be open to hearing multiple people not just 1 or 2. And remember that actually fucking doing shit is also important not just consumption and so on that note I'm singing off.

I'm not welcome on this forum & I never tried to be. I was never welcome anywhere, that's why I decide to become a leader. I'll start my own forum, businesses ect... eventually build my own city, leaders are always welcome when they provide enough value. I resonate more with more masculine & competitive smaller communities, I think a lot of guys are cutting themselves short by ONLY being on here, it has some value, but when I only used this place it was a giant oppurtunity cost to more practical, creative productive niche communities out there. I am open minded therefore I will use a range of platform space based on where my intuition guides me, but only staying in 1 forum just creates this silode bubble just like people who only listen to 1 youtuber & stay in 1 city too long. But no self help youtuber will admit that to you including Leo, because they are competing $$$$$, but that's the truth everyone needs.

But as a counter point YES : Fuck the internet unless it's for work / productivity / learning skills. And always try to be social and out at least for hours. Exercise is not cringe. Sugar isn't that cool, huge shame on myself for spending money & eating sugar today, huge fucking shame, could've done exercize instead, fuckking idiot.

He has got a point though ... There is a specific category of men (Who I've noticed in direct experience multiple times forming accurate neural node) who are not only willing to believe women no matter what, but will act, without any justification to defend them in order to play up the hero identity and maybe get some pussy out of it. There are also men with boyfriends who will unnecessarily act defensive over their girlfriend as an excuse to bully other men, maybe the other guy literally just said "hi" and asked for her number, but maybe the girl is addicted to playing victim and loves the attention she is on the darkside of feminist ideology or she is just a narcisist and in this context the boyfriend will co-opt the modern bias to instantly believe women & shame men against women, I think that posting any shameful post about how the "guy did this" without legal proof and evidence should be a crime, as once the fake post is out the damage is done & it's too late, humans have bias called belief preservation bias which explains the irreparable damage of rumours despite nullifying evidence.

Very sorry to hear that & I hope you meet only kind men going forward. I'd be interested to understand the context of how it happened for my mental model & pattern awareness (alleyway, house party spiked drink ect..) But pardon my insensitivity as you may not want to share that. DM If you want to share your story. You guys have brought up an important point : Getting raped & no one believing you & being called a liar is also tragic af as well, and I empathize with any woman who had to deal with that. The point of this thread was not really about what's worse but just to highlight the issue of false accusations and how It's something that people should be aware of in this society. Yes you are right, it's not just with rape but happens with false murder accusations too. You are spot on bro, many aspects of men's rights issues are not given adequate consideration, I thinkk this is why mens self help & lifestyle channels are booming. Although I won't pretend, self help & mens lifestyle will always be niche, it will help random lucky people who become aware of it like me, but it will never catch the bulk of men who are destined to live a miserable pointless & lonely life of shame & starved of all forms of joy. But yh I admit my qualitative comparison was subjective and partly done just for emphasis, all these scenarios are all bad but I still stand that public consciousness should expand their archetypal imaginations for common tragedies of injustice (instead of just see man as merely aggressive perpetrators or "patriarchs". I will still stand that generally speaking feminism has become distorted into a toxic ideology in the 1st world & needs to be scrutinized. ... I have read the long Ted Bundy Wikipedia article which was terrifying. So on the one hand I understand contextually that there needed to be a "push" to listen to women because genuine abuse & rape was constantly ignored, makes sense. However I don't likke this wording for individual contexts ; within the case (not just the judge but jury father family friends whoever) all these people should NOT be biased towards a push to believe the women, they should see the case & the evidence objectively at hand without any preconceptions & then decide, there shouldn't be a push or bias to either believe or not believe. Unfortunately I have masturbated today to porn & binged on ice cream and sugar, I also made too many micro decis, ions depleting my Neurotransmitters & multi tasked too much, in total turning myself into a useless, brainless stupid piece of jelly and I'm unable to process information nor even read all the comments or use my brain right now. I will answer more comments in several days when the non toxic diet & no fap intellect is back, there has been more nuanced responses than expected here.

Vaccine is obviously NOT that safe ... either way no young person should have to take it. How can you expect a human to trust that shit? Why, based on all of human history & everything else, would any sane human not at least be sceptical. There's many naturally ways to be healthy & do healing, covid was bad for the already sick & the old. It's so stupid, the destruction we have caused society by reaction to covid = 1000 times worse than covid. Just let some old people die as a sacrifice to protect the young & the healthy because 1 healthy young guy bad reaction to the random vaccines is worse than 1000 old sick people who are already going to die & have had their chance at life.

My knee - jerk observation is that you are linguistically twisting & muddying your sensemaking by trying to workout the "1 approach" as you bash the metaphoricallly hammer to find the right answer. I'm personally open to all these aspects & demonize none ; Of course I want to recall & repete stuff, it's a good first step, but there's deeper levels, but that doesn't mean it isn't important, so yes I'd say repetition is an important aspect of learning but there's more to it. But of all of these aspects would play apart in creating meaning & understanding in your mind: The brain is not 1 neuron, it's a network, web of neurons, connecting different sensory inputs, using multiple different parts of the brain towards a single idea or function. Likewise meaning is drawn and built from a network : The shallower parts like repetition & recall maybe the start of the chain or network; visual image may strengthen the network & expand the web, direct observation or an interalted serendiptious conversation may further strengthen the network, experiencing the meaning first hand once you already have the shallower foundation & some interconnections may take it even further. ... maybe meaning has it's own hierarchy of understanding, like how a child sees things very black & white as they lackk foundation nuance distinctions depth breadth experience. Sounds a bit forced to call it an "act to patiently strive to understand" because often times when you don't understand something & force understanding right away it doesn't happen, the understanding comes when you take time off & allow serendiptious experiences or interconnections to bridge that gap ... or just sometimes your subconscious brain does the work for you when you're not trying to understand on a break,

Coffee is really bad, I can't stop drinking it though because I'm dependent. I would need to become quite successful and be in a good position to quit coffee, because I know when I quit the weeks after will be obscenely unproductive & I just can't afford that right now, but after the withdrawal period my life would be a lot better, fuck coffee. I tried L theanine & out of all the supplements I tried, it gave me the worst reaction ever, a lot of anger, anxiety & other strange psycho reactions. After L theanine I just gave up on supplements because I've tried many & even if they have some benefit, the unexpected side effects always end up ruining me for days, same thing with weed, even alcohol to an extent and lingering mental side effects also with gluten, grains, noodles ect.. but no way near to the same extent as weed, nootropics or supplements. I'm recently getting "intuitive eating" sense like you guys alluded to with peanut butter, and just feel I should stop eating it even though it's very healthy on paper & I eat 100% fresh peanut butter but something just feels wrong with it, but I never get this with other nuts, I always feel good eating brazil nuts, peacon nuts, also grapes I feel awesome. However I have no opinion on the matter & can't answer whether intuitive or empirical scientic approach is best, of course ideally we need a holistic mix of the 2, but also learning an intutivie understnading for the individuallist & idisyncratic nature of health is really cool, I wish as a 5 year old I just though "Ohh some people diewhen they eat peanuts", this has big picture significance for how I should restructure my entire outlook on human health, ect.. extrapolate that out to people need & respond to different stuff, which is fucking annoying & tricky to deal with tbh.

In some ways I agree with you & honestly if I had more money I would join the tate network because it's sure as hell got some smart people on there, the benefit wouldn't come from tate so much as the general network of motivated very smart guys within a syndicate of wealth & power that you can engage to acquire not just money but other perks like more freedom & brotherhood community. However he bootstrapped himself by "standing on the shoulders of simps" & basically scammed lonely men It's kinda hard to forget this the guy is a bit brutal, but survival is survival I guess. Also means I'd never fully trust him either if he has a scammy history, but If I had enough that I was willing to lose the money e.g 4 or 8K for the syndicate then I would pay it because the reward could be very high, if I had like 200k spare pocket money in my bank I'd risk it.

It's weird to critiize anyone's choice of game, this is a personal choice & taste. I don't like judging people in general any more tbh I don't care how other people chose to approach their dating life, I couldn't care less if people judge mine. My dating life is that I want complete abundance & I want multiple deep partners including some variety on the side. All these deep partners will be deeply & exclusively commited to me, with exception to threesomes with other women. I want at least 2 deep super hot girlfriends going simultaneously & I will settle for nothing less. I commit to building my game & charisma every day until I get there, no matter how long it takes. You can hate my choice but I couldn't care less, I couldn't care less about comitting to 1 woman, but I do care about deep intimicy whilst maintianing the benefits of variety. From my pov traditional dating is too limited & boring but who am I to judg others.

This comment wasn't fair & actually he does have some good videos so I'ld like to take back my judgements of the guy. Actually I like him overall no one is perfect I am no better. Belated comment but I am clearing up my karma. I judge no one no more.

Brilliant comment, so much nuance bro.

You could say this about anything though? Why would you do something liek a headless chicken instead of put concsious thought into it to improve your results? Why paint a room with some technique & conscious thought? Might as well just randomly slather it on the wall & make a giant mess right. But I agree that at a master level of game it's probably completely natural but this advice isn't good for beginners, you need guidance if you're not naturally socially intelligent from genetics/upbringing, but my point is everything is science in a sense anyway, nothing is truly natural which Leo has cogently explained before

Wouldn't it have been / be better if you just took the high level position & worked tons of hours in your company, lived extremely frugally, worked non stop & suffered for several months - 1/2 year or however long necessary - then quit with everything saved, live in like a caravan in a cheap country & then focus 100% of your efforts on your business (and let say the saving give you couple years of free time to go all in) ? Part of this answer comes from my intuitive sense of the "Going full circle" concept because I know about people who have worked like 100 hours killing themselves for months & then quit & invested all the money going all in. 9-5 just seems too prolonged & half assed unless your only doing it to put food on the table, but for actually building savings & investments, I'd personally rather kill myself working more with more responsibility, find a higher salary too & then go 100 hours & quit & invest everything I can from that living on a friends couch & not paying rent. I suppose I'm thinking about it quite simply though, if your main investment is personal skills & mental abilities & building an audiance over time that require consistent patient approach than I suppose 9-5 works better because you can do both simultaneously & allowing natural exponential growth to occur over time without missing sharp market or cultural trends, but then again then again I am overthinking bye.

It's the most important thing you can do in your life. Maybe not for others, some jobs are enjoyable, if someone else is content if no regrets that's great. But if you're having the thought consistently then it's certainly the most important thing for you. I am the same, within my context & brain & personality I just can't not have complete creative autonomy & I can't live a life without freedom variety excitement risk novelty ect... I can't live a life where I'm not travelling every month & doing random stuff, I still dream of this life every second. But I am a very weird & different individual. I regret it, I never followed my natural inclinations & as a creative person it will drive you insane if you don't follow & express yourself after a while, but of course I need time & security + some basic needs & distractions met helps a lot in allowing me to flollow these inclinations. I also see money & freedom as a direct aphrodisasic to creative energy : What better spark than to be conversing with different people? To be in some wild forest one week, to be in paris the next? I need that spark and all the jobs & life I've lived, never give me anything near this spark.

You're fucking corny haha. So cult like.

Leo is just a dude who smokes DMT & occasionally makes useful self help videos, don't overvalue him, he makes excellent videos yes but that says nothing about his quality of character.

If Immigration is ONE FACTOR according to you, then state that in your paragraph. One factor does not equal THIS IS DUE TO X Your emotional bias & desire to be contrarian is very obvious from the get go, I really doubt your just "stating the facts". Nice meeting you, STEVEN CROWDER HAHAHAHA.

^^^ This video is an excellent big picture outlook but it's not sufficient to actually make money, it lacks the details which is down to personal decision on how you want to make your money ... E.G a business, what kind of business? Affiliate Marketing? How do you do that? Is it worth it? How much do you need to start? Nothing? who should I learn from? Or you want to teach something? What? ... How specifically will you build clients? The problem is it's different for everyone depending on your background, country ect... although with the internet there are now certain money making trades that anyone can do. I'd start with Leo's video for big picture > Then google a list of all the ways to make money online + in real world, stay open minded to any possibility. Keep a long list & just research each option that appeals to you. Also, don't be against having a job at first either, you can do this to kickstart your bank account ... This may enable you to further invest in some form of business or education if needed. There's just too many angles to view this problem & I can't give you an exhaustive answer as the path is unique to everyone, but this should be a good basis to get started. Making money is really difficult to start & requires so much energy, but becomes really easy to make MORE money once you already have a bit. Getting from 0 to 10K is monumentally harder & heavier than getting from 40K to 50K or even 100k to 200K, probably is like this with YouTube subscribers & making friends & anything else.

Beautiful women are just ... Beautiful (& feminine). That's it! Beauty is something which I appreciate much, 1 of my highest values. Architecture, colours, starlight, sun sets ... and of course women I love beauty. Isn't that a more pleasant & accepting way to perceive reality? Let your mind remain open, you only need to find 1 (or 2 or 3 or like 10) beautiful girl who isn't a bitch, it doesn't matter how the other 150 million of them are, you can only date so many at once.

tbh bro, this "Just live a little" is a social matrix linguistic pattern I've started to notice which is used as a subtle peer pressure tactic & it's annoying as hell, happened to me the other day when I was told to try some vodka & I was trying to logically explain how taking vodka in this context & the consequential aftermath would actually lead to less/negative "living" for the next several hours but this went over their head & inspite of my own reasoning I still felt compulsed to prove myself as a not too tight, tense boring guy amongst the lingering vibration of peer pressure within my physiologly that no logical reasoning could deter. The phrase has like a powerful linguistic god like status amongst the demonic arbiters of the social Matrix, it can be used for the most non sensical things like "why aren't u licking ur cats asshole bro?" and could probably work to a stupid teenager. Back to the discussion To be fair to Leo, I had not watched the video before I made my comments nor anticipated such an unusual and unexpected title and stream of thoughts & associations ... Partial apology & some props to Leo for been clearly nuanced & making an interesting video My tone in some my comments was agressive & exaggerated & reactive - This is not represents my character I was triggered due to my contextual background of growing up insanely stupid & terrible at navigating life (also miserable) from lack of //negative socialization experience I'm sure Leo pointed out this counter somewhere in the video anyway I have some good points to make + challenges to statements from the video which should hopefully be interesting & mentally stimulating, Points mix : - Social Matrix >> The radio - It's not purely socialization per se, but constant ingesting of external thought vibrations >> My dad is very dumb due to all the constant external thought stimulas he recieves from tv & radio, but maybe that is a too obvious & common sense point for Leo to mention, or maybe he did mention that anyway >> Or the need for silence, a lack of enough silence makes you dumb - Talking to much makes you dumber than if you just listened to & observed other people - but also theres key counter point which is that imo a full consistent hermit would be dumb & stunted due to not having enough experience observing & listening to people, seeing social, non verbal & linguistic behvaiors and patterns within & between individuals, although I guess he did mention that in some sense Ohh and Leo ... wtf was this stuff about "Modern technology has nullified the physical strength differences between men & women?" Am I remebering that right or something because men are dinifitevly physically stronger than women this is kindergarten knowledge.