Optimized Life

Yeah, I do see what you mean in this sense. I've met wings who do spammy day game, which means approaching even girls that aren't that attractive but they're "their type man!" or "she has nice ass or she's blonde" as if that's enough, and these guys are quite embarrassing to be around and I try not to associate with them unless it's a huge city. Spammy daygame only works in huge cities but I don't like it either way as I have high standards and can feel like you're playing Game GTA.

Huge limiting belief & negative framing right there. I've had several positive reactions from hot young girls during the day, including in front of her mum and family. Example I approached one really hot 19 year old girl in front of her mum, little sister, little brother. She and her mum were qualifying herself to me, telling me how mature she was and she inmediately texting me back, only reason I couldn't meet up with her was my own self doubts & hesitation to text her fast enough as she had to leave next day, but I may still meet her again if visit her city, and she still texts me back and flirts. This approach was in the afternoon. If you present the frame that you're out hunting all day then it's bad game, if you only approach hot girls and make it seem spontaneous then they (some of them) truly appreciate it ... I don't like how your biased perception frames it with pseudo statistics and percentages as if you're claiming some objective universal truth. Reread that statement and realize how stupid and arbitrary it is, and how you're obsessed with being a sheep and a slave to irrational cultural norms and dogma. "IF you interact with an attractive women before the sky is dark you are automatically a creep and a rapist!" Lol.

Really? I've had almost entriely brutal nights everytime I did night game and I don't think it "grew me" or helped me. It decreased my sleep and lost me brain cells and meant I had a shittier week and missed the day time (including many sweet day game approaches) It left me more insecure and hopeless and feeling more creepy. It made it harder for me to do work, socialize, meet new people or be proactive throughout the following week creating bad momentum for my life. I can't see why day game wouldn't grow you 10X more than night game, every idiot approaches a drunk woman at the club, but to do it in broad day light in front of her mum that takes nuts.

Not necessarily disagreeing with all the points made here, but night game being fun? Cmon. It's like fucking torture. It is extremely difficult psychologically and ruins your health, business, finances, rhythm. A lot of potential fights, arguments, rejections. How you meant to do night game and still wake up with sunrise? how you meant to meet quality girls during night game that aren't sluts, don't smoke or drink? , which How you meant to avoid drinking in night game? It's extremely difficult not to drink even if you're into self development, and extremely rare to find night gamers who don't drink. It is peer pressure & temptation times 1000 and in many cases you may even look weird or awkward if you don't drink. Night game will end up costing you a lot of money, to enter a club that has hot girls in you normally have to pay a fair amount, and to skip ques or get better treatment you often pay a premium or bottle service ... not always true and depens on where you live of course. But generally you always at least pay $10-$20 + entry and then another $10 - $40 + on drinks ... and yes i'm sure some of you "don't drink!" but lets be realistic night game is an extremely strong gateway to drinking and wasting money on drinks, at least 1 or 2 which is so easy to rationalizme to yourself. You also need a wing man (who actually is into game) for night game (technically you don't) but to not have an extremely awkward and traumatizing experience you do, which is very difficult to find especially one that won't drink and (at least unconsciously) peer pressure you to doing the same. Compare that to day game and you can do it at any time, just walk down the street or into a mall and get the number or insta date right there. Or even "street/night game" where you game girls outside the club (at anytime you want), or like around dinner time you game near the bars or whatever, it's just so much lower investment and downsides. I'm not saying you can't get laid from night game, but it will take everything else out of you and ruin your life unless you're quite rich and don't care about your sleep schedule, the problem is I've had a chaotic circ rhythm for years now and it surely has decreased my productivity and life progress by a huge percentage

I have come to realize that being a typical drinker at the club. Is truly a moral choice. I don't like my drunk self because I become so much more emotionally unstable and volatile. If you're having a good night then being drunk you're "just having a good time" yes ... until someones offends you a little (which normally you would just let it go or not care too much), but that "offence" when drunk instnatly flips your state and you overreact and now suddenly you are this drunk monster. Now you are pushy, clumsy, cruel, overreactive, bitter & perhaps even an unhinged angry 14 year old full of rage. I must drink less for moral reasons, not just because I highly value health. I'm not saying I will never drink, 1 little tasty cocktail with some food in a chill environment, maybe one day per week max with a friend or 2 is fine. But when emotions, sex, validation, big crowds, ego is involved, Hell no ... completely sober from now on.

Thank you for your response and good luck with your qualification, would be a really cool skill to have.

My end goal is not purely quantity of girls ... I want several girlfriends (3-5) who I have lasting intimate relationships with ... and the ability to quick replace them if it doesn't work out, something changes, to get to the point where I'm never lonely or starving for sex again in whatever city I live in ... and when I say girlfirends, I mean HOT girlfriends, not boring average or fat ugly ones. I want all of these girls to be high quality in both looks and other factors, which means they will be in demand, have a lot of options and I will need to be a very attractive man to both attract and keep them around, no entitlement here I understand how much work I still have to do. I barely even have basic social skills yet and will need to enhance my lifestyle, literally and digitally, have a nice place, get money, nice clothing alongside all the inner and social work. So as part of the process "quantity" may be my starting goal just in order to remove all my neediness, awkwardness, meekness ect... so I can attract those special women I dream of. If meditaiton accelerates the process,I'll do it. Couldn't care less about spirituality, I know I'm a good person anyway.

You have to be intuitive and think for yourself. Don't focus on index funds, that's some small dick minded shit. Only nerds talk about that slow return crap. Invest in AI and you can make a 200% return instead of fucking 4% You should be willing to take risks and use your intuition.

Great clarification , thank you.

"Tell me about it"

Younger women are more attractive and often have less baggage, it's not that complicated. I am new to my game journey and I prefer women aged 18 - 24, especially 18 - 19 is the ideal age, and always will be for me, even when I am 50 year old. But Im always open to dating older women (of any age) as long as they're hot and lively (young) in character. I do also have a milf fetish, married lady fetish which is separate from my younger cute girl fetish. I have no shame in either of these and as long as both are consenting legal adults & marriage is an illusion. I'm going to reap the rewards of master game once I get there, and I will have every possible piece of my pie, I will 100% "abuse my power" once I get it because I will have earnt it.

That's awesome.

why are you not also doing day game though? I think you definitely learn fastest if you do both. I find that I learn the most from day game, everything is more lucid.

anyone have experience with this in countries that don't have big game culture within your language or english speaking (e.g chats for english speaking game groups empty, and don't know any nomads or local friends who are into night game) My only option is to night game on my own, but it's emotionally difficult to deal with and It's not very enoyable.

That's resourceful I like that, thanks.

Then fucking do it and don't post it on here for permission. Just experiment

These are only active in a few big obvious cities like new york or london, most of the groups are empty and unresponsive. I could try private dming members, but I feel as though they would ignore me for being intrusive. Those chats are not liquid enough, … They're filled with endless self promotions of the hosts courses, podcasts ect... If you go to the game global chats for the majority of the options apart from london new york ect.. you will just see lines of self promotion with almost no one discussing …. occasionally someone will put them self out there but too no avail as no one responds. Most of those chats are lame, I need other options.

What people say is not what is necessarily true. I feel as though it's toxic positivity and arrogance to assume that most people, and yourself, could just lose literally everything and homeless, and maracously just come back. In most cases you'd just be sleep deprived and spiral into derangement, unless you had some form of support in place, like social security, or a helping friend or some feasible way out. I'm not talking about Tom torreros case here though. Also, the combined feeling of (online, scaled) stigma plus losing your business must be particularly strong. I feel as though it wasn't his business lost that got him the most even, but his positive purpose being shitted on and twisted by the media. He probably should've moved country and started a new life at that article point, no one in Columbia gives a fuck about the article.

Depends where you live but smart phones are actually quite cheape these days ... If you buy a phone from 2,3,4 years ago E.g you can buy an Iphone 10 or 11 and it's decent price with all you need, people just think they need the new Iphone 14 pro Max or 2023 Samsung, but it's not like 3 years ago phones are that different.

For months I was unmotivated and disillusioned with this forum, ... Today I skimmed through the titles and seeing very high quality juicy questions, some interesting questions that, should produces valuable answers and discussions. Well done people ! Maybe it is a fluke luck weak, but Something good has happened to people's minds recently.

Time for action now. No more logging in to this forum this month. No more reddit qouara ect.. Even for products "which one should I buy?" "Which country for pua?" NOPE. 5 Minutes to decide only questions allowed = for research purposes "how to best use this product?" = YES "How to be adapat to X place?" = YES but must decide what ot buy live to inmediately, no hesitation, if it's the wrong decision doesnt matter, inertia is the devils work.

randomly flipping through leo's "what is wisdom" "fools are judgemental ..." (googling) : Why is being judgemental bad? ... pushes people away, better to have humility and open to other opinions ect... Psychology Today : "finding the hidden motives behind are behaviour" (My judgemental side) ... here we go again impractical pop psych ahh ("wait a minute, just find some gold") .. "Finding the hidden reasons behind behaviour", there could be something here "why am I so indecisive?" I'm indecisive because I hesitate, spinning my wheels in thought loops, because of FEAR That's it, just literally fear Fear = indecisiveness. Also perfectionsim = Indecisiveness, caring about others opinions = hesitation = indecisiveness = inaction ect.. Useful psychology is just so simple, hence my weariness of self improvement books and all this over trash Nevertheless it can always be the path to finding, or rediscovering the simple truths you remind oneself. I am being indecisive because I'm afraid : of losing some money of "Spillage", of waste, ect.. I'm afraid of wasting $10 or $50 ... but I end up with no product in trying to find the perfect one I'm afraid of wasting $2K, which I may well do, but then I never start, I never move, I never take the risk and get the experience which is priceless I must let go to holding on to everything, to needing to be perfectly ready I have to let go of my computer files, the books I can't bring with me, the certainty of home I have been frugal and conservative for almost a year now, and to be honest, not much has come I am best suited to "gambling" on life, going to die anyway fuck it bro. But in this process of hesitation I am losing the most valuable thing of all : My time, and my spirit (decaying from inertia) and the experiences I could be having and in turn the character and identity I should be building , which are priceless,

No it's not. It's not harassment unless you are being aggressive and ask repeatedly. Just because something you do makes someone feel uncomfortable doesn't = harassment. This is a stupid sentence. Why would someone who wants to charm a girl "intentionally" make them feel uncomfortable, it is always unintentional due to bad game, low social IQ etc Making someone feel uncomfortable does not instantly equal harassment. Many people are still uncomfortable with gay people but that doesn't mean the gays are harassing. I am still a bit uncomfortable with trans people, but they are not harassing me. However, if a trans person made me uncomfortable because he asked my number in a loud voice 5 times in a row after I said no with his breath right in my face, or he randomly started touching me provocatively, that would be harassment. Frustrating that I even have to point this out, this should be common sense. I standing up against undeserved victim identity here, if a guy asks for your number, you can say no, and he should go away after that, but never claim that he's harassing you just for that, ironically you're actually harassing him by exaggerating the situation and slandering others.

@John Paul Try condescent shit to me in real life pussy Cant take light criticism and you had to make fun of people with mh issues? Shameless lil bitch you are ill knock you out clean

I think your comment is lacking nuance and intelligence. Even though i understand where you coming from to an extent, and not every guy needs to do 5000 approaches of day game and follow every point leo mentions, some are naturals ect.... However It is an undeniable fact that the ability and willingness to approach, the courage of that is not only indispensible, but without the lens of pickup (or masculinity or sometimes red pill) it would be hard to get a typical guy go to motivate himself to start doing it, so i do believe tje majority of man includimg guys with good social iq woupd benefit from leos videps purely due to the encouragment and willingness to take bold action element, but the extra technical details will not be necessary for everyone and some prefer just having 1 girl. So to conclude even though i may not resonate leo in every video ect.. I do respect his efforts here with these series and its vital to show respect where its due to balance out ones critical nature