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1) It helps not to separate them. If mental health issues are at an all time high, the people in power are also affected to a lesser or greater extent. 2) Fear makes people act irrationally.
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The last few days I meditated for the first time(s) in several years. Today I had a brief intense argument. I now have a mild headache. In the past it has been much more intense depending on the state. When I don't meditate I don't get headaches if I argue with people or enter a stressful situation. When I do meditate the crown of my head and my temples are prone to getting headaches. Is there any way around this apart from the obvious answer, control, understanding addressing what came up. I am asking about the physical side of it. Is meditation always prone to making people more suseptible to headaches when emotions are more intense. I realise meditation can itself calm stressful situations but my environment and myself are not capable of remaining calm at all times.
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BlueOak replied to Vincent S's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I will have a read, gratitude. -
I agree well put. It is all connected and you feel it when you improve your diet and take care of yourself. Though I would say the world. As developing economies are adding to the strain with their own industrial revolutions, and much of the garbage from western countries are being dumped in them where possible. The planet's like a body and at the moment its getting a case of the flu physically speaking, but with what we are going through collectively with the virus it's a reflection of what the planet is experiencing. I don't feel its unrepairable as some do, so as others have said the placebo of hope or the living in a joyful state of mind helps. But I do feel there are always more serious corrections coming. Not by some divine power but by virtue that the current conditions haven't changed things yet, so it'll either continue as is or get worse and 'hopefully' be corrected.
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BlueOak replied to Tech36363's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Also sometimes you can/see feel more vividly than others, and this can come with meditation, or just having a happier day. When we talk about subtle senses, sometimes you are more alert and awake than others. Colors seem more vibrant and the energy/emotion inside seems more tangible. Whereas in a dark depressive pit of a state, been there, you see, feel or hear very little its all very dense and heavy. -
BlueOak replied to Tech36363's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Generally there are considered 5 senses. Taste Touch Sight Smell Hearing I've heard it said that as you move beyond these five senses, it is difficult to keep incarnating here. It is certainly difficult to communicate to people who firmly believe 5 senses are all we have. For a 6th sense I would say Mind. I would add experience being a sense, enabling a level of prediction both consciously and unconsciously. I would add gut feeling is a sense, for the sheer amounts of times i've heard people say I felt this was going to go really badly and so didn't do it. *Perhaps these two are combined to simply be Mind. Other than that you've got dream interpretation (subconscious), body awareness (internal touch), which you can explain to people and they might be included in the 6 senses i've described above. Body awarenes being touch and dream interpretation, gut feeling, experience, subconcious etc as mind. If we talk beyond that, people hate it, and i've only experienced small glipses beyond that. Third eye work which people would say was imagined, sense of Synchronicity which would say was coincidence, out of body experiences which people will call you crazy for etc. -
Authoritarianism will continue while liberalism is undermined internationally. Authoritarian Socialist + Capitalist Liberal With the backlash against identity politics. Many capitalists are still attacking liberals, and so moving the dynamic more to authoritarian. Which is not neccesary as China and Russia are rising powers with more authoritarian governments. So we have that dynamic adding to it too. We have the EU going through turmoil. We could well end up back to authoritarian states and all the internal violence and external posturing that brought. *We could add environment to this model to make it 3D, as it should be a separate consideration and the most important of all. It would be smart for everyone to do so long term, as the importance of it naturally increases with its severity. ** Please also understand I use term liberal literally. Not the party, for parties in america its left, I believe in australia its right and the UK central.
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1) Above all else. Population. It is the magnifier for all issues. Resource shortages, housing prices, space, pollution, environment, traffic, stress, wars over territory/resources, now viruses as there is less space between population centers, and we live closer together than ever etc. Nobody will ever talk about how to stabilize or reduce it. Because for the: Capitalist it hurts the economy. Liberal it infringes on civil rights. Socialist believe its self-regulating or can be, but I need more data on this and the authoritarian view as we don't see them. 2) Environment It seems the 'language' is getting more serious in the UK as to how to at least address the environment. The challenge is of course slowly shifting workers and their families from one career to another, especially where communities rely on a specific industry. There is also a lot of money invested industries which is the real sticking point. Then there are developing countries going through industrial booms, and more to come. But it is nice to see adverts at least where Eon and others say they are taking the problem seriously. Me I'll believe it when I see it, it's been decades of resistance, lies and false promises. If they do manage it, then perhaps we can at least see green technology making them the same money oil did, and that would be a positive, to have communities and families with a history of solar, wind or bio fuels to their name. We are still using non recyclable plastic. Which is insanity. We are creating something which we cannot use or break down in any form, islands of it now in the ocean and stretches of land that will never be anything but landfills, i.e uninhabitable. So every time we use a produce we cannot recycle we make a small part of the earth uninhabitable, and for mass-produced food products that is nothing but wasteful in every sense. 3) The changing international power dynamic. There is a lot of upheval happening now and more to come. The risks to the average person are the quality of life goes down, as it has been at least in the UK, and the possibility of more war, crisis or hysteria going around which makes people do unwise things. 4) Media Is media reforming hmm. A bit. It still respresents a specific interest rather than a collective truth. Most of it is an echo chamber for whichever view is being put forward with very few exceptions. In the UK we do an okay job of grilling whoever is on, the interview is usually somewhat hostile as a result. Sadly though its almost impossible to have an independent media channel in the UK, as free use doesn't exist on things like news clips, so fully outside the box perspectives are never engaged or challenged, leading to things like conspiracy sites. Although things like question time have around 7 perspectives (I forget its been many years since I watched), its all still for the status quo. I do enjoy the fact that at least any elected official can question the prime minister each week, about anything. 5) Finances. Banks are not your friends. They are not your enemies. They are banks. Why do I pick on banks, because the 'we are your friends banking campaign' in the UK gives me nausea. Its setting people up to be ripped off again. Friends, they don't come watch the football with you, they are not there when a family member passes away, they don't share interests outside of banking with you. They are not your friends, they are your bank. I realise the campaign was launched to improve their image after they got away with ripping people off in 2008, and got nothing but bonuses out of it, but its not helpful. They are not your enemy either, they are not plotting against you, seeking to undermine you. They are just a bank seeking to make as much money as possible. I've seen both the extremes now in my lifetime after living with a family in crippling debt, and the distortion in either messaging is not helpful for the average person living their life.
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@captainamerica People have difficulty speaking to you without getting angry because of wording like this: foolishness strawman fairytales manipulation evil people Naive people Progressives brainwash innocent people Watch: You are a foolish person who makes constant strawmans, lives in fairytales, manipulates others, is very naive and an evil person. You brainwash innocent people prone to listening to you. That's from the first two pages. If you genuinely want honest discourse not discussion of personality or emotional retort, remove this from your arguments. If anything doing that and taking the step back will help your arguments, because its very easy and natural for someone to dismiss what you are saying when talking to them in this manner. By the way we can all fall into this, I do. I am no saint but if I ever look back, I realise I undermined myself. Because I would never convince you of anything, i'd just be saying words to feel good.
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BlueOak replied to KatiesKarma's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I had a repeating thought. Seek out real life guardian angels if you feel you need support. There are people that are extremely giving and that spend much of their lives to support us at our lowest. Despite what some say, there is nothing wrong with healthy support through our entire life, in fact its extremely beneficial to get people that support you in your life around us. I don't know if this will help. Her videos used to help me when it was videos on individual emotion. It doesn't go far enough, but it touches on a couple of things that might help. -
BlueOak replied to KatiesKarma's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not fate but spirit and/or the subconscious depending on your belief. I want to say they are one and the same. It all comes from you. Every sign, every signal. Nothing outside of what you are. You have the power there right now and can choose how you want to not only use it but perceive it. Small clues that give a gut feeling. So much information is held by what I will call the subconscious, that I get warnings ahead of time sometimes. It can't know everything that is going to happen and even if I do, I usually ignore the feeling anyway in favor of what I personally want to do consciously. For what to believe in. Believe in whatever gives you strength. If believing in something works for you then use it until or unless it doesn't. Been in despair, I used to call it that to. I used to grade my depression based on how bad it was that day, and despair was just above powerlessness or lingering in powerlessness too long. A bit like anger coming out of fear. If you ever want to talk about what it is making you depressed, with someone that went through that for a few decades feel free. I am sure I'm not the only one that can help but I do have a lot experience with it, if not here then locally find someone worth your time to speak to. It sounds like to me you are reaching for things to give you some hope or power, you can give those to yourself right now, you really can. No matter how bad it is. I hope you find them inside yourself and wish you the best. -
BlueOak replied to ardacigin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not so sure this is universal. If I want to focus on healing muscle pains, removing tension etc , I find it easier to do in the evening. In the morning the state of mind is as you describe and I agree. I also don't think there is anything wrong of meditating just to relax yourself before bed, same with yoga or any exercise. Focusing on the breath is very helpful though to wake up,and perhaps more at times, I agree fully on that. -
The benefit to slowing it down as much as possible was so that hospitals could deal with infections in a steady stream, acquire extra respirators and extra beds, get used to operating in these conditions. Without these things death rates were much higher than with, staff were overwhelmed etc. Initially it was also to understand what we were dealing with and buy time to find a cure, put emergancy measures in place etc. Now as we reach the hopeful end, we've had all the time we are going to get to prepare for any large influx. It didn't save my uncle or millions of others but I am still glad we in england fought this as long as possible, sometimes resistance helps and in this case saved lives here at least.
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Eventually none. Our ideals and beliefs are often skewed to one or the other. We operate without thinking from that perspective. It frames our existance and life, all our responses, boundaries, ways of interacting etc.
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BlueOak replied to KatiesKarma's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Scare whatever is scaring you right back. Metaphors from the subconscious. For me its often a fear, or an unknown behavior being represented darkly for contrast, or phobia etc. Getting into a state/space of strength so you are no longer afraid, grounding, eventually understanding what that imagery represents and integration is what heals it in my case. Try not to take anything in a dream, vision, third eye whatever state at face value, unless its a basic processing dream but we don't usually remember those. -
BlueOak replied to happyhappy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All the stages are necessary in someone for stability. I hope every time I think on it that we see green based leadership eventually. That alone would be a huge shift from where we operate at the moment. -
BlueOak replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Different things for different folks. What got you to that place, where the anxiety and thoughts are separate? Where you can cry and open up? But wherever you are now, if you are intune with you and those around you, that's where you need to be. -
Collective Thought and Individual Thought Individualism and Collectivism. Too much collectivism you can end up never questioning anything, going along with anything, sometimes at expense of the individual. Too much individualism and you can form your own belief system or structure, that can appear completely detached from the collective, sometimes at the expense of the collective. To integrate these two positions if you are heavily in one isn't always easy, they come with their own problems and challenges. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivism But its a one path of spiritual development that some people consider very important. Eventually they can begin to overlap, because you are part of the collective and an individual. As an example, someone can blindly follow a belief system in either state of mind.
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First off I am white and english so don't speak with the same life experience that an american has. I came from middle class at a time that meant a priviledge upbringing, to poverty so i saw both. I come with an outsiders perspective. I would make the complete counter argument. There isn't a proportionally large number of successful people that are so successful they have trouble finding partners. If you reading this are very successful in career and finances great, but don't remotely think that your wealth or success applies to population at large. Even if it did, it'd be the people struggling that were the larger point of any metric of troubled relationships or families. You can't separate out relationships from families, that's where they form and grow, that's where they are learned. When I used to discuss these topics, I would frequently find myself debating people who are very successful and well off, usually they'd tell me at the end of it. They are not the 90%, or more specifically the % of families in the greatest difficulty. Not to dismiss their own problems, for sure, I used to do that all the time coming from a middle class family at one stage before it dived into poverty. However to call something the main cause of anything, when it applies to a minority of the population is missing the wood for the trees. If you'd have said people are working more and more hours. Then said they see their kids less, they have less time for relationships and so there are more single people i'd have agreed. Thats not feminism, or identity politics, that's a whole load of issues nobody wants to speak about. From increasing population levels, to an economy based on consumption, to not producing anything locally but trying to generate more and more demand. To political corruption, to resistance on changing a wealth of industries that need modernizing because of money (corruption). Its based on the changing balance of power world wide and increasing competition forcing prices through the floor. Its based on climate change forcing immigration, and food or living space costing more. Its based on people being treated as robots rather than people. People's want for cheaper and cheaper goods rather than goods that last longer. Its based on rising fuel costs, and you can thank the oil companies for holding back alternative technologies to lower them for many decades through money and greed. Its based on technology causing solitary rather than community activity or ideology. Relationships are not fostered naturally like they used to be, we live in our own little worlds sat at home and then are easily offended or angry when someone has an understandably different view in their own little world. Not even touching on historical issues, like poverty, political, cultural issues or abuse. On and On I could type about why families or relationships are struggling. I haven't touched any black only issues here, mostly because I am not black and didn't go through what you did. There are so many factors to what you are speaking on, to pick identity politics and say that's bad, that's what is doing it. It drives me nuts. It gets in the way of everything these days when there is so much more to look at.
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BlueOak replied to Vincent S's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You are welcome it was a nice memory to revisit You do yes. In that you are changed, the bit of you that you keep. I wanted to mention Kundalini yoga is a way of speeding it up, specifically because working with the body naturally is a neutral approach and less prone to resistance. The body has its own blocks obviously but that can be worked with as a physical or energetic process. It can be an intensive yoga, whereas most people think of yoga as just relaxing, this is a way of getting things moving physically. That approach benefits from detox and not eating to excess, not having sex to excess, removing all excess, trying to de stress the parts of the body where we carry resistance. It doesn't require ellaborate yoga poses, just steady routine. I can only at best clear the way for the ego to be washed clean, or cleaner than when it started. I am not sure how I would approach it this time. I suppose continuing to look at collectivism, or social integration, but I keep seeking teachers on that. -
BlueOak replied to OneIntoOne's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Or inward, being inside. -
BlueOak replied to RMQualtrough's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Will represents strength of individual mind or collective identity. Strength is something that has been demonized for its connections to solidarity, connections and community. I would like it to be used more. Force of will. Personal will. These are almost tolerated in the 80's/90's but somewhat mocked in the modern day. The will of society dare I say the 'will of the people'. Those last 4 words have been demonized to trigger people most of all. If anyone reading had any kind of reaction to it stated as an abstract concept well that hints at a preprogrammed response. -
BlueOak replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sounds like you feel uncertain or powerless and fear it. Insert whatever emotion is right below. My first advice is being okay with the emotion the next time it comes up. For powerlessness this was very difficult for me and quite horrific to sit with at first, to embrace rather than resist what you are feeling. Really spend some time with this until you are not pulling away from it. Then when you have done that for a time, sat with it, said its okay, the world isn't ending, i'm okay. You can work out what do without the same level of fear, anxiety or panic driving you. You'll be grounded exactly where you are. You are not alone. Much of the world is going through similar states. Internally: Take control of your thoughts or Allow feelings to come and be with them. Find out what those feelings/you need. External: Do what gives you joy. If nothing does. Try many things until you find one that gives you joy. Keep trying. Perhaps write a list of things you want to do in the this year, make a small, simple and easy plan. See if any of them can be done alongside or as part of a job. Work from there. Definitely taking a break from your studies sounds like a good idea if you can. Give yourself some space to re-evaluate if its what you really want long term, or just a break to collect yourself and come back stronger. Hope it helps. -
BlueOak replied to OneIntoOne's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is a time for seeking. Then there is a time. Then there can be another time for seeking. Then there is a time. Repeat. It's how life works. Chicken - Egg - Chicken - Egg etc. Somtimes it happens in a day, sometimes its 10 years, but so far for me at least it doesn't stop. -
BlueOak replied to Shane Hanlon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes it goes off the deep end, but there is more to this state of mind than you are speaking about. There is a lot of corruption around. The vast wealth gap and media shield has created kings that get away with a lot they shouldn't, idealism has been demonized in favor of hard pragmatism or cynicism, groups or collective reasoning have been broken down to individual thought by technology and social policies, trust is at an all time low and still falling because of these factors and more. Once a mind that has otherwise just accepted whatever they were told as true, begins to question what they are told they can begin to question everything. You might say that's healthy, well maybe, until someone else gives them all the answers. Then it depends purely on those people's state of mind or intentions. Sadly there are a lot of people out there wanting to tell you want to think and do. So you can be like them. You can find more harmless examples in your day to day life if you really look. You might say a certain level of that is necessary for human cooperation or society to function. When someone is seeking answers they can fall into these rabbit holes without having the collective balance around them to ground their understanding, because they no longer trust people and understandably so. I trust almost nobody that isn't speaking to me directly face to face, that's a product of all the lies i've seen and swallowed in my lifetime. I realise people can lie to your face but in my experience it's less common. All a conspiracy needs is two or more people conspiring to do something. We could do one right here. So to dismiss them outright is odd.