BlueOak

Its a shame everyone from natural herbalists through to shamans, anyone with even a basic understanding of herbs is seen in a derogatory light by modern society. Even herbs in cooking is seen as an eccentricity. It'll be a great day when herbs are understood by average people again. There is so much in the way of that, from processed fast foods in modern hectic lifestyles, to modern medicine working with drugs for profit, rather than the plant or nature itself. Not to mention the criminalisation of people's own bodies and plants. I would say more but i've forgotten more than I knew when I worked in the industry. It was like constantly pushing against a wall, I made some progress in the local town before we were forced to close due to business rate rises. Anyone who works in health food nutrition or therapy, and gives a damn knows what I mean. I say all this after having lived with an addict for 20 years and all that means. Which if you've had those experiences you also know. So I saw both sides of this and I just want society, the law, the people runnings things to be responsible for once. Set up a structure for it, monitor it, in a safe and caring way. Sure make money of it too while you are at it. But remove all the stigma and deal with these things openly in an adult way.

Defined by you, imagined by you and observed by you. That's half of it The other half is all (those others) experiencing it with you. The ground under your feet, the (other) observer you just helped up, the woman holding you, and the car you are driving. Definitely pay attention to the last couple .

Matters, for me means does it become material. So it depends if its helping or hindering something be done. Intellect can offer a potential breadth to act, it gives you options and reveals connections. It can give you insights, and allow you to learn things faster than others. Intellect can be over analysis. It can be used for disconnection, and arrogance. It can be used for anxiety and worry, or procastination. It can be used for self hatred. It can help reinforce a harmful emotion state by overloading you with reasons why you are in that state. Its all about focus, like everything, and where you put it. As has been mentioned there are many types of IQ, three that are missed almost entirely in education are emotional IQ, social IQ and financial IQ. Which is where you see the holes in society and the problems it experiences.

String because the mind is full of connections and relationships between things, events, people, feelings. You live your life in these connections and relationships because they define what life means as you experience it. How you relate and experience your life, forming your perspective. If they are tangled up in knots or the string is all over the place, then the connections are either blocked, else worse you are relating something harmful, exaggerated, hindering, or false to something else in your life and its hurting you. To example. Your relationship to food, your relationship to money, to work, to anger, to your family, to socialisation, to responsibility, to yourself, to this forum, to this comment and my words. How they effect you, what you make of them. What influence they have. Everything. Getting to the truth of life gives you strength, certainty, clarity, honesty, relief, bravery, healthy relationships, and hopefully eventually some self love for what/who you are. *Also because many of these strings get in the way of spiritual truth You are welcome all the best.

Often thoughts in an overworked or chaotic mind are random and observations intermittant. In its final state perhaps yes it reaches that but its starts off much more disorganized. I always looked at it like a ball of string being untangled.

Succicntly spiral dynamics itself is a map. If all the stages are represented in any endeavor and your goal is a shift from red to green, offer red through to green. In either governance, charity or business for example.

Mine - Ours. How can I get something for myself - How can we do something for ourselves. Then: My Responsibilty - Our Responsibilty. | Red to Green it'd be, I can do what I want, to Our responsibility, which is a big jump. Finally: My Community - Our Community. | Red to Green it'd be. My House, to Our Community, again a big jump. Everything your group designs in life should be done with the word our in mind, and try to meet as many as you can where they are. I say your group, because forming a group is going to be the first step in changing anything to be communal rather than personal. It might carry on after you are long dead, and you have to be willing to make that sacrifice that the work you start won't be finished in your lifetime. Because its never finished Hopefully designing the project, foundation or team to carry on through the generations. Design it with meeting people in a red state of mind and helping them out in a communal sense by showing them what they get out of being part of a community. Forming a sense of community, attachment to the people in it not just its history and traditions which are very important as they help that community hold their identity. Whether its a business or cleaning up a residential estates trash, helping kids/homeless who need it or anything in between. In fact if I had to highlight something, i'd say focusing on those in most distress and helping them to help themselves is the fastest and most direct way to change the area. Getting people out of their survival state and toward something better, like helping them look after the area they live in and taking care of the land that provides for them. That is a very green way of life. As an example that I hope doesn't derail this topic. If I could go to every area that had homeless and turn that tide, i'd put homeless people in charge of the land they live on, maintaining it and looking after it. It wouldn't work everywhere for many reasons I know, but it'd be a start. Telling them its theirs as long as its clean, and people work together to look after it and themselves. Offering the organizational and structural help they need to make that happen and maintain it (Blue), which is usually missing in any such endeavor, and the chance for personal advancement in a career related to the maintenance (Orange). Then offering the support we need, because they are part of the community and need to be made to feel it. Which is missing in every single homeless shelter. I'd do away with the term homeless entirely because of all the stigma associated with it, while they are on the communal land they have a home and its with us. To get to green you need people who see you and me, who may be very different, as part of their community and want to help all of us at the same time. Best of luck with whatever you choose or your journey.

Putting aside the benefits of the practice. Methodologically its a bit like why you would focus on the breath or do any repetition/ritual. Its a way of silencing, calming, getting in state or focusing. For the same reason your method probably works well for people who spend a lot of time in their heart, its especially useful if you are a logical person, spend a lot of time in your head or have thoughts naturally during meditation.

It peels back layers of the ego and strips beliefs down to their truth or fiction. Its like taking something dusty and polishing it. I haven't done it for ten years but it was powerful when I did practice it. I think these were the questions I asked. Individual Why's: Is that real. Why? Is my explanation of that real. Why? Is my explanation of that real? Why? etc. You keep going even if the answer is yes, until you break things down to the core truth of it. Where did that thought/belief come from, is another way to do it. Then when you answer, you ask where did that answer come from? Repeat. Its an interesting line of enquiry until you reach the very bottom of the pile of half truths or other people's beliefs that got you there. You might eventually get a very simple and clear emotion toward a very simple and clear event or you might see the ego dissolve slowly. Consciousness Observations: Who is observing is a meditative question to try to focus on. It can help focus pull back and back and back :D. Focus on the sensation and whatever comes up, then ask who is observing that and keep asking. If a thought pops up ask who is observing that, if a sensation comes up ask who is observing that, if you feel consciousness expanding or contracting ask who is observing that. It will be unique to you so whatever comes up comes up, no wrong answer or wrong experience. These help get the proverbial monkey off your back or monkey mind as they call it. I'm going to have a run of it now and see what happens again, could be fun.

Because feelings are a chemical process interpreted by the brain.

Well the obvious thing that came to mind is, why not combine all three. Music set to art you've made, on philosophical concepts you find interesting. All the fields you have spoken about are not going to feel rock solid. They are art, music and philosophy and by their nature they will always be fluid. You are speaking like someone who has the capacity to do well in any or all of these disciplines. The way you reason and put yourself into your decisions, do the same with your work. If you are anxious for example be anxious in your art and music. If you have a 100 different things floating around in your head, put that into your art or music, let it breathe and be alive with those emotions, reasons etc. What you have now is muse, you might not realise it, you have a dilemma this makes for a great muse! These are the things I used to love to fuel my creative side for example and when I was at my best. You've got to commit and put the work in, which is the only way you'll know which direction you end up going. I also want to say good luck.

I feel like my life has been one long lesson in not defending opinions so harshly or protecting myself so intensly. Dialed up to a 100 through trauma and repeated exposure to intense invalidation, so I had the best chance of getting to a place where I don't need to anymore. I am part way there, so not all the way yellow but a good chunk of me is. I lack some of those labels on the examples page. I have examples of every one of the stages apart from turquoise and some shadow of course, which means: I can find myself going to blue and talking from blue, going to orange (which I seem to love :D) and talking from orange, going to yellow and offering multiple perspectives as they occur to me. Talking about boundaries from Red. Going into a shadow blue perspective, or less red/green shadows. Depending on what place I am talking to you from, and who I am talking to I can find myself very opinionated or more relaxed and free to swap between perspectives. It also depends how much unconsciousness I have in that area when I speak to you and how much trauma is intensifying the conversation, again usually unconsciously (*this trauma can be on either side of the conversation). As a personal question looking for a perspective that surrounds this. Another sticking point(s) for me is. I know we reincarnate, so if I don't hold a certain perspective and see it reflected, it will evaporate in the collective consciousness after my death, and i'll have to live a future without or with something that in this one has caused me harm or suffering. I know I'll be dead and someone else with an entirey different 'story', so what will it matter right? Well things carry on after we die, people, perspectives, society, technologies. Its hard letting go of the investment in that or the future of that after having lived it. - This is lesser now than it used to be in me. I think age brings change naturally, which lets you see all things are temporal even suffering but still I ask for the benefit of your own experience or insight.

The white light reality state is. Its unlike any other emotion I could describe to you. If you took a yoga bliss state and intensified it 10 fold, you'd have that emotion running through you. It needs no drugs, all it needs a complete state of love for long enough, self love, love for everything around you. I also detoxed, did self inquiry, and did kundalini yoga for six months every morning.

You do exist. You don't exist. What you will find is people telling you both, you will be confused. Because both are true.

Just talking personally. I don't like shutting parts of myself off with someone I want to be with. It feels wrong, it makes things complicated and leads to lying or putting on a mask, and other messy complications. If someone doesn't like part of me, and I am thinking about dating them, I should know that up front as early as possible.

Perhaps yes. I overthink things as well, I did learn as I went through life to let go of all but the most intense situations i've come across. The ones that shaped me or were traumatic to a degree which I still struggle with. Beyond those or people that are in our lives regularly, nothing really matters, other than what we make important. Daily interactions that come up once are not very important and have little bearing on life, for me realising that came with age and experiencing enough of them. Overthinking things and living in your head can be a sign of an unhappy childhood also, or just a way of dealing with what life throws at you learned from when you were younger. Mostly what i've tried to do is shake up your beliefs a bit here with simplified generalisations, just to get you to look at it from other perspectives, even if it only gives you a bit of breathing room or alternative perspectives hopefully it helps. There are as many perspectives as there are people, pick one that helps you, not hurts you.

Flipping this on its head, I once heard it said that if someone was obviously the most beautiful girl in the room they were less comfortable. This might be a shadow or not, lets explore. If you are more attractive and she is getting attention that you think is yours: Why do you need that attention from your teacher? Why do you care if she's hitting on him isn't that between them, on them to sort out? Alternatively do you think flirting with teachers is breaking some form of trust, ethical code or structure, it often is, but its for him and her to work out. That's one thing that won't be your shadow but more of an ethical or moral dilemma that you are witnessing playing out. If she was getting better grades as a result for example, I can completely understand you being annoyed at that. Not everything is inner work, sometimes it really is just a messed up situation you've stumbled into. Bluntly, it all comes down to why you are angry or annoyed at this. If someone is using sexuality to get ahead, and its compromising you in some form, its understandable to have a reaction, otherwise its really none of your business what two people do or don't do. Assuming the age is appropriate and laws are being followed. *Also on the attention point, if he ends up teaching her more than you, I can also understand why that would be unfair and cause resentment among the class.

If you are still drinking, its why getting drunk makes things simpler I suppose. That said, some girls like intellect, and will comment on it. Sometimes because they associate it with a good job, which obviously is not true but *shrug*. Other times because they are much more intelligent than you! So I guess you are dumb to them already, and at least being able to carry a conversation with them on a topic they are interested in helps! Very occassionally intellectual creativity, writing for example, attracts a partner but that is dying off sadly.

Why do you want to be free of other people's opinions. I mean I understand if someone is in your face every day giving you an unwanted opinion, that would get annoying or worse fast. Also if there is something you can't fix or get past, that can be sore to hear. Otherwise you can take or leave whatever you like. This comment or entire conversation for example can be completely discarded, or picked apart to find what's useful or not to you. I'll try something less extreme than hate. Mostly people are completely indifferent to you or me, because they are. There are a few people in your life that will care or hate after you leave the room, but beyond a momentary experience of emotion even those you have an altercation or positive shared experience with will forget about you five minutes after you leave. Everything else is on you. Carried by you, learned from, reflected on, or forgotten by you etc. Can I take a guess at something, did you have overly dramatic parents, school, environment (stressful job) or childhood, where things stuck around for days after the fact. The intensity of those experiences can color how we look at the world. In reality most people are indifferent and will forget about whatever happened moments after its done, despite some of us growing up learning the opposite. The people that carry grudges or take things too far in reality for example tend to stand out, most people just want to get on with their day.

I agree, and I was going to mention this in my post. Even you, someone like me who hates this, were comparing a man being used as a tool for a task to a machine. That is how far as a society we've fallen, and that might sound dramatic but I feel that way. People have been trained to work as machines so much so that we are now having multiple discussions on many platforms on how machines will be replacing man in many industries. That part of this conversation highlights the madness, that almost everyone I see speak on this topic has. So while my observation may sound harsh, I want to thank you for making the point, because that reasoning is in everyone.

1, What I said was, if it were designed as a humanoid, specifically a humanoid mind, it would be more likely, because it would be copying what already exists. Not who or what created it. While your point is an interesting line of thinking it ultimately ends up deadlocked. 1.A) We could say conscious things creating something are more likely to create consciousness rather than random chance. If random chance were capable of creating more life, then we'd find it on more planets or just in more of our own creations. Even with many people specifically working on trying to create AI for example its not happened, so that's far from completely random chance either, even if it contains a lot of unknown variables and unknown questions being answered right now. 1.B) The counter argument is made in the same statement. Many people are trying deliberately to create consciousness and it hasn't happened yet. Also the universe is to our best understanding infinite, so there is a lot of random chance going on, compared to our small effort here on earth, and its already happened once in us. Neither of these points were what I was talking about but its an interesting sidetrack. 2, I can't compare a man working as a driver to a washing machine or toaster. We could discuss everything you've omitted that's present in the man and not present in the toaster, but honestly it would be an absurd premise to start with. Based on our understanding, for consciousness to be present, or in focus, there has to be a certain amount of synaptic activity that is simply not present in a toaster for example. So again I will completely disagree here and leave it at that. 3, When you leave your body there is. That answers it, when you do or become the room etc, you won't have that question anymore. I agree there is no other way I found of answering it, apart from maybe bliss states or the white light reality state but that is more an experiential state. On spirits, only third eye work gives you that, again you can dismiss and we'll disagree about it because you've not had those experiences. I don't claim to be an expert, only that i've experienced it multiple times so for me its a confirmed fact of my life.

It always made me grin when people told me a computer will take over the planet or become self aware. Well yes its if its programmed too, but the toaster or washing machine isn't going to want to suddenly invade, its for making toast or cleaning your clothes. Machines made as humanoid however have the possibility to be humanoid if they are built exactly as we are, biological computers for example, with many of the flaws we ourselves have in us and a consciousness which is alien to this environment. Or was alien. Do you ever wonder if the reason people are being treated more as robots by industry now is all the process of this happening before our eyes, its all connected and arriving at that point on a macro scale. I feel consciousness expresses itself in whatever is actively being created at that time because creation is the key for consciousness to be realised. It is another reason why the attempts to make humanoid robots is flawed thinking, they should be more like an R2D2 droid out of star wars, easy to maintain, hard to damage, good over many different surfaces, storage space, and with many tools accessible. A device, vehicle or tool for man not a replacement.

If you are an intellectual or just live in your head a lot. Question it enough. Its ties. Where it comes from. Who is really asking the question. Is that belief real. Does what I feel about this actually exist or is it in my head. If you can keep stepping back and asking who is asking that or where is that belief founded. You'll peel back layers of belief and non truth and clean the ego. I managed to completely remove my ego once and then I walked off a metaphorical cliff, life's hard without the ego. I wouldn't let go a part of myself again, its there for a reason, but you can always work on it and improve it like anything.

Pinterest had a few ineresting examples Fibonacci Art https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=fibonacci art&rs=typed&term_meta[]=fibonacci|typed&term_meta[]=art|typed Mixed Systems on Paintings https://www.pinterest.com/pin/560979697338794899/ Fibonacci Artwork https://www.pinterest.com/search/pins/?q=fibonacci artwork&rs=typed&term_meta[]=fibonacci|typed&term_meta[]=artwork|typed

Everyone hates you. Yep, there are some things you do that everybody hates and there always is going to be. Might help to know that from the off, its less of a surprise or reaction then when its shown. Its natural to want people to like you or to start off at least neutral with someone to give them the benefit of the doubt when you first meet. After that well relationships have such a complexity to them that you have to expect a wide range of reactions. You can't control what those reactions are, and you can't change everything about yourself to make every interaction a nice one either. As a personal note. Living in a state of pure self love is tough in a judgemental environment. Most interactions are based in judgement, but you can find people that you have more positive interactions with if you look, if you seek them out and then when you find them, don't let those relationships go to waste they are precious.