BlueOak

How do you personally love division and contrast? Thank you.

There is no exaggeration. I see styles, fashions, even names and cultural trends from the 50's. I see TV shows and films that could have been set in the 50's. I see civil rights being rolled back 50 years. I see authoritarian powers that have outlooks as if they were a European power from the last century. I see politicians wanting to roll us back to that time. I see religion on the rise again in decision-making. I see the ability to protest at an all-time low globally. I see censorship has reached almost draconian levels. I see the intelligence services behaving as if we were in a cold war era, even before all this recent mess with regards to surveillance and privacy. To reach stage green globally the several billion people stuck in our version of the 50's will naturally have an effect on our lives. To acknowledge that is not an exaggeration. I've accepted it. I hate it in many ways, because I hate the authoritarian part of me, and that's my issue. What it does make me more sensitive to is authoritarian changes happening, and they have been happening since the early 2000's. Which hopefully now anyone can see as clear as day.

If you are in a Yellow state of a mind on a subject, you can operate as a conservative or a liberal and see the necessity of both depending on the situation. *You are also not above making a fool of yourself or acting on impulse, emotion, or anything else. The other stages of your development don't disappear, just because you can do better.

There have been countless cultures that have come and gone over history. In my lifetime I've seen modern-day Britain have a cultural crisis as middle England was all but removed, where the village life was usurped by towns and culturally lost its way for a while. The rise of the chav for example :), which in reality was just the new youth of the time. I imagine the same in a more severe fashion happened as its 'empire crumbled'. 10-15 years ago I used to ask people what English culture was? I got very weak answers. One of the positives over the last 10 years was a slow re-establishing of english identity and culture, through media efforts and national programs. For example I was against brexit but one reason it was successful was England in a way needed that jolt, to say I still exist and have a voice. The cultural aspect of that is almost overlooked, and one reason why the EU struggles with unity or did until it had a common enemy in Russia. Rome - https://blablawriting.net/prime-relationship-roman-culture-absorbed-essay A classic one Romans used to absorb cultures slowly by taking aspects of their culture and integrating it, some were strong enough to persist after rome fell, some didn't. Search Engines favorite answer: Bantu Migrations https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv114c79k.8?seq=1 Lots of cultures were absorbed during this period. Let's just look at just one area I know well. England had the beakers which nobody remembers, druidism much of which was removed (people say celts, others gauls), the anglo-saxons which it is said peaceful changed the druidic culture over time, the normans changed it not so peacefully! The vikings which had an impact on many local areas, and we arrive at the combined english culture of which some of the old remains and some doesn't. I'm not going to touch China, because i'd do a poor job, which has had more historic cultural sites destroyed than anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyed_heritage#China

Traditionally weak cultures are overtaken by neighboring cultures, either preceding the breakdown of the nation/group, its laws and social structure, else being absorbed into another culture. It would look like people who don't know who they are as a cultural identity, that have no reinforcing/defining elements to that identity present or accepted by that group of people.

Materialism has many flaws but it is part of the culture. A weak culture leads to a stagnating society and a breakdown in it. Often I'll comment on how to reform materialism -> recycling items -> minimalist living -> ? It isn't the only part of American culture, perhaps as an outsider looking in I see more than that? Certainly, you have Hollywood, Football, Lots of foods, dances, music, not as many museums or old historical landmarks. You have a great deal of native American influence, Spanish and Mexican influences, cuisine, dress, food, customs, languages, cars, historic industries etc. You also have several famous buildings. The alternative to a strong culture is social decay, disconnection, economic depression, crime, disorder and sometimes war (depending on who is in power).

I tell myself that now and again. It is difficult not to feel squeezed because the world is reforming all countries to gradually have a closer set of values, which for us turns the clocks back 60 years. You yourself have said evolution or development is both coming and breaking apart though.

Expand on this if you would. A strong culture is a necessity for a civilization to endure. There are plenty of problems in most cultures, but it being strongly present isn't one of them. How can you know this? I understand it's better to think it than the opposite, and that in itself can lead a path to a better outcome. Things don't always go in the right direction, especially with the shifting geopolitical scene. I still don't see authoritarianism stopping because China's influence continues to grow globally, just like many eastern nations. That's where the population is and so that's where the world is. I had high hopes India's influence would moderate or balance this out, but that has taken a huge knock in the wrong direction with their choice of solidifying their links with Russia. Even if publicly they try to toe a middle ground they're buying up every barrel of Russian oil (and more) that the western democracies leave behind. I can't predict exactly how long a trend will last, but I see anything from another decade to a hundred years more of regression before this is done, sure with peaks and dips, but generally speaking a move towards older values, and older ways of doing things. A good time for a break from incarnations again or a time skip.

It acts in a pure love state until it meets the first human acting extremely counter to that, which it cannot integrate, and then the ego comes back to protect it. This might apply to other states of being, but as I've only done ego death in a pure love state, this was my experience. Outside of pure love. The more you remove ego, the more readily you'll see parts of yourself you haven't integrated, and sometimes that is very painful to realise.

Most influences in this world are aligned with keeping the world separated and divided. I would say this is because those people are divided and separated, so it is a self-perpetuating cycle. You will hear it as a common thread through all discussions here, through all media, through all politics, through how language is structured. Most things start at language, which frames how we interact with and shape the world. If you want the single biggest lever to what you want to achieve here, look at the language. Look at your language. You can see Tony Robbins discuss it when he says to ask a better quality of question, for example, rather than why can't I do something, ask how can I do something. This basic adjustment changes the approach and the intended response. To achieve more of what you are looking to do. We must look at how we divide ourselves through language rather than come together. This not only starts us off in the right place but means we are correcting ourselves through use of language, which shapes, or forms thought and self-identity. What you've done here for example in the diagram/model is divide up what should be one. So you've started off with the division you want to heal. These arrows should be arriving at the same place or should be a combined arrow in the end, so all parts of human nature come together on any one issue.

You should be more concerned about the continued mobilization of Religion as a Political Tool. If that continues it will keep increasing in political significance. For anyone who says it already is, yes and it's getting more so in America. Using an assigned set of fixed, almost immovable morale values imposed over the population, will eventually cause greater and greater sources of civil disturbance from those who don't share these values. If the percentage of the country is large enough to reject them. The aim is to split the country on issues that don't affect those in power or cost them money. They have realized on many issues religion doesn't, so its safe to use as a dividing factor for the population's two-party system to argue about. It stops you all from focusing on things that might affect their power (money). Same with personality politics, scandals etc.

You are making a false equivalency. Nowhere in this discussion did anyone suggest anything like this was going on. This means the exaggeration doesn't help find the truth, it clouds the issue and means we will be (and are) discussing something completely unrelated to it. This one problem with personality politics, it rarely has much truth to it. Where did I say there was no room to criticize? I have been myself in a few posts. There is a huge difference between tolerating child abuse and disagreeing with a spiritual teacher's methods or manner, and if you are trying to argue otherwise, I don't know what to tell you. The advice of taking what helps you and leaving the rest, doesn't in any way negate criticism. It does however get you free of being hung up on seeing someone fail or fall because you disagree with their methods. I've seen countless people over all walks of life (including myself) insist others do things their way, and when they don't they take the mindset that everything about the teacher/politician/idea/subject etc is worthless, worse that they need to somehow take a fall. Life is rarely black and white like that unless you are using a gross exaggeration as you are.

You can always use hyperbole to make a point seem reasonable. It doesn't make it applicable in everyday life. People on mass are not going around listening to teachers who rape their students or tolerating it.

Couldn't agree more, i've thought about this time and time again, from politics to spirituality, to social issues. You have put it into a context of how I feel about much of life. People's need to see other's fall when they find disagreement, is reflected in all walks of life. Especially when there is no better alternative someone can point me to, its detrimental to the collective rather than helping it. I've been guilty of it myself in the past.

It's all about finding the balance between radical elements of social change driving it, and pulling it back with standards like this. It does overly limit the actions someone can take outside of the established social structure, but I've accepted the word cult is collectively being used as a pressure release for seeing change develop, and that's healthy. One more point emotional outbursts are healthy. Very healthy if you are paying attention. Part of teals work encourages them and not everyone is comfortable with that, and that's fine. I put myself fully into her work when I was doing it, and indeed this post knowing i'd learn something, and I did. That over three or four posts on different topics I have/had a problem with social suppression, more than it deserved. Part of stage green showing :D. Hopefully, this has corrected it in me to see it as more of a necessary dynamic. Gratitude.

Her social intelligence is not her strong point as demonstrated here, and that I've always had a problem with, or found flaws in. I agreed above that her name and personality is too front and center to not avoid things like this, so in that I do agree with the psychologist. I also agree with him that she does push people, and I liked that trait, because ten years ago I was far too stagnate in my own misery, I wore it like a cloak. By following her completion process I managed to work through some issues, and it was uncomfortable and it did push me and I was alone. Because I could not afford a therapist. So let's be frank. Where are all these free therapists for people? It's alright pulling one of the few sources down, but who is replacing it? Because the people that need therapy the most can never afford it in the first place, so again we stagnate as a society. If you have a link to someone who is more emotionally intelligent than teal swan, I would genuinely like to follow them. I've never found them. In which case who is meant to mentor her on that aspect of life? I'm sure someone out there exists but it's such an underdeveloped topic we could use more references. Some leaps of judgement, in that someone has an argument, and now supposedly they don't want anyone around them that questions them? Well then why or how was there an argument? He contradicts himself on this point, as an argument can only come from two opposing viewpoints. As for emotions and regulating them, that's unhealthy in itself for a frank discussion in this sort of setting. You want your emotions on as a guide. That's the point of her work. This is not a professional setting where a standard of behavior needs to be met, it seems to be a small group of people chatting together. Yes you do need to figure out who you are. I don't know where he got 'damn the world' from, but we need a certain amount of damn the world to change it. This is another example of how we are losing or have lost the drive to change, it needs a certain amount of radical thinking or action which says damn the status quo.

Never called you stage orange at all. I don't profess to know anything about you other than this post. The orange comment was how a business operates free from this type of PR nightmare, with often far more powerful and dangerous people running them. By using her name she's brought some of this on herself to deal with operating in this type of environment. I am saying you are trying to label someone a cult leader who has been helpful to millions because you don't like how she operates. Because some people have chosen to hang on every word she says. People express love for her, because she's speaking to areas of themselves that are neglected or unloved, and when you do that a reaction is common, it's called transference. It happens to many therapists for example and they have clear guidelines how to deal with it. That's their issue, in their psyche. Over an audience of millions gaining some unstable students or people following her work is going to happen, especially because a percentage of people go to teachers like this because they are suicidal. Sure you could tell her to distance herself more from them and address it more, that might be valid. Work on boundaries in her videos for her students, but she'd be needing to reinforce that on a regular basis for it to be effective. I see this word cult thrown around all the time for anything, and it's getting to the point it's ridiculously overused, and part of the reason no change is happening in society anymore. It's one more tool of suppression in the collective psyche. I could have been nicer in how I phrased this, and I apologize for that, but it doesn't change how much I hate this.

People aren't all aspiring to be a better person, this is your goal I assume? It's not for a lot of people. You apply morals to use them to guide you, a lot of people don't. Some people even go as far as to celebrate immorality or excess, or breaking the rules even or especially because they know it's wrong. I would say it's a spectrum you are looking at, not a black or white response.

In a purely orange society. She's forced into defending her public perception because she's using a personal identity to sell herself. Most people in business use a label that can be branded, and separate themselves from the product, eventually the company or just rebranding itself constantly to avoid the bad PR. Nobody is perfect and it builds up, people pull videos from 10 years ago and say SEE SEE. It's honestly sad how a public figure is framed by their three worst videos, rather than their 500 average to good ones. You'll focus in on that with your bias, and say that's her, because it suits your bias for that to be the truth. The truth is a person is a hugely complex thing and should be judged on their entire history if at all. As for ex-members leaving in terrible shape. She will break down your identity and ego, as will most teachers worth anything. You will have crisis like this if you do this work. I have twice. If you can't handle it, let life teach it to you more slowly. Also people do get in terrible shape all by themselves, to say she's responsible for their psyche or life entirely is to assign her powers that simply don't exist. Now my own bugbear. 'Cult' the term universally applied to anyone who has even a thought that isn't in line with what society says you should have. Don't dare form a group that acts outside social norms, tries alternative solutions, or even forms a way of life that isn't a 9-5 robotic way of life enslaved to billionaires, you'll be flooded with messaging like his. I have little bias towards Teal. I watch her time to time, her videos on inner emotional work helped me a decade ago. Her videos on society in general I have/had a lot of issues with. Yet this programming you have in your mind to call something outside of your experience a cult always infuriates me.

Re monogamy and polyamory People need different things, especially on this topic, because it's very personal to each. I could list them all and I started to but we'd be here forever.

No. I never cheat and will never cheat. It all depends on you what you need from a relationship and if Monogamy is important then that's what it is. People do change over the course of their lifetime, and sometimes sadly the new people they become don't have the same passion or love that you both found to start with. They find this difficult to communicate, for obvious reasons, and it can mean they become attracted to a different type of person. This usually happens more often when you are younger and changing more rapidly but not exclusively. It sounds like this is very important to you, so don't give up on looking for it.

I'm going to quote tony robbins here as I agree with him on this. There are different ways people express love for each other, sometimes its verbal, sometimes its touch, sometimes gifts, and sometimes its an experience or being there. All these things people are telling you to do, depend on him. There is usually one that strikes a chord stronger than the rest. Like how someone says a word or name a particular way, or an especially romantic trip, or the way you hold them, or that you know them well enough to get them a touching gift. For me it's touch. A touch on the arm, a hug, etc. That would be how to initiate or for someone to begin to show interest. You are beginning to know him, but if you need to tick all the boxes, its words, being there with him, it's a personalized gift, and its the way you might touch his arm or hug him. Hope it helps.

Why would they cease to exist automatically? I also think you underestimate people's awareness of their own more obvious flaws. At least where I live you won't find anyone saying they are perfect. If you recognize you are flawed, and everyone is, it doesn't fix your flaws without a great deal of effort that most people won't put in.

Every word is a stored duality you then tell to others or yourself. In this case it's a biased shared set of behaviors for people to, hopefully, collectively have a better quality of life. The individualist in me also chuckled when I read the title. Because to the individual ego to be told to act counter to itself in someone else's bias, is naturally resisted, for the collective to be healthy it's very important to have a collective set of morals. It helps mend disagreement, or avoid conflict in the first place.

Encourage their development, which is part of education, being a good parent or teacher. Every interaction changes your consciousness and theirs. What values they take on will be from their starting consciousness, parents, society, then experience and choices. Usually you can't help anyone do anything directly unless you've established trust, they've left their ego at the door (a comedian for example), or they've come to you seeking your help or advice. That doesn't mean this interaction here for example is wasted, you'll take what makes sense to your conscious life experience and use or not use it. Sometimes something that has been said will come back to mind, even if you didn't accept it the first time, and all of it is now in your subconscious to help you relate and form references in the future. Nothing heard is ever completely wiped from experience even if it's heavily suppressed or avoided, everything even what you hate has a purpose. But then you are probably more open to this than most, because you are on a personal development forum and have come to among other things learn or better yourself perhaps. You are not completely cutting yourself off from learning from other perspectives, otherwise you'd probably leave here and go live in a comfortable bubble. You could focus on learning with a child. Leo and others have for example said to fall in love with learning, if a child or someone who trusts you can begin to do that, in their own way, they will be set for life of personal or professional development and adaptation. I don't distinguish morality from experience to be clear. Experience often forms morality even if it has to drag you across it the hard way. Everyone grows painfully or peacefully.