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BlueOak replied to MellowEd's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What humanity considers bad, demonic, evil etc, is often associated with creating things here on earth, material results. What is considered angelic is usually clearing things, healing, and purifying. If you want a space cleared you can burn white sage, high-frequency sound, or selenite crystals. Here is an old one I used to use when I was in a place not too different from you, apparently you can leave it running. However for me, this was the most effective. Lower the volume if you want the high-frequency sound approach to crack negative shells, it's intense so fair warning on the sound levels. https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2584240912?profile=original I heard someone nearby leave a room when I started this up on my headphones :D, he's in a negative space, it's difficult to have frequencies so far apart together. For anyone else sensitive to energy, it's good for clearing energetic spots on your body that are stuck too. Oh and don't be afraid of whatever you are facing. When I started learning who I really was in 2010, and was near the end of creating spirits, angels and demons, and other things to mess around with in my life. I still stood up and told them to get the heck out of there when I didn't want something in my room. You'll be surprised at what happens to anything in your reality when you decide to take control of your space, and stop sitting there passively. -
@Ahbapx A human has sensory input. An AI has input (sensory or not) A human is a conscious, subjective observer of that sensory input. An AI is the input.
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@Ahbapx It doesn't matter what body you put on the AI, it will still be data, not a subjective, shall we call it witness to avoid arguing terms, to events. The body, cameras, anything will give a sensory input. The AI will receive a 1 or 0. The AI will BE the 1 or 0 it is processing at that moment. It won't be a subjective witness to events. This is what you do not understand or can't accept. I was the same, I wanted to believe an AI was more, probably due to all the fiction we've been fed to humanize or demonize them over the decades. An AI is the data it's reviewing at that split second, it's not anything else and can't be. There is nothing else there. No conscious witness to events.
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We can talk about energetic, psychological, or cultural triggers as well. I do feel energetic connections matter perhaps the most to me, but I am not sure everyone is that way. If someone has a good energy about them, that draws me in. That in no small part comes from the design of earth, and the cosmos. We are often attracted to the pieces of ourselves that we want to experience in our life, or sex in this instance. It's the same universally, two things are drawn together, connecting with something in the other.
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The AI is part a processor or a series of them, with binary on/off 1 and 0 numbers (electrical signals) moving through it. It is told by code what these numbers are to then output in its software. The software can be updated, but the AI will still at a fundamental level only ever be the electrical on/off impulses it is processing. The AI is not perceiving anything, it follows a coded routine. Sure, the routine can be adapted, the software changed, or the hardware updated, but nothing is standing back from the AI with a perception of either the AI itself or what it's looking at. I am a 10101 Then I am a 10111 The discrepancy is recorded to be accessed later and compared to other results. When it is, the AI will be the result its accessing at that moment, nothing more or less than the electrical signal on/off. Perception, as you describe it is a human characteristic not present in a machine. It will only ever be the data it accesses at that moment. This is where the biological machine of man (the body) is different, as we have consciousness using the body as a sensory device. Humanity as a whole doesn't understand this. So it gets much of life's concepts from the ground up wrong, including of course AI.
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There is no perception in an AI. There is data it reads and when it does it is the data it reads. If you fed it conflicting data, it would be the conflicting data. If you said find the discrepancies, it would be the discrepancies it was finding, until the operation was complete, then it would be the updated data as and when it accessed it. Otherwise, it is nothing at all, waiting for input.
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It's fertility and biological drive. Young, healthy women mean healthy children. Which translates in the modern terms to hot. It's not people sitting there intellectually thinking this over either. People are attracted naturally, and then they put conditions on top from experience, from culture, from friends, etc. With women, it's different characteristics, protector, provider, someone who will be there no matter what, and then they add conditions on top of that from experience, friends, culture, etc. This world is a womb, and its number one goal, if we look at everything in it, (and its magic in plain sight) is the procreation and continuation of life. Before anyone takes this to be female slanted, men hold the potential for a million lives within them, unless they are too busy wasting it. Further, the entire universe and our existences are a series of wombs we are born into, it's how it's all structured. The birth cycle in us is reflected in the universe, a micro of the macro, like everything.
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The AI is the data it is accessing, it is not a subjective consciousness. This is a flaw in the way people are understanding this. The AI is like the body, it is what it's doing at the time. Ask one. Get past all the window dressing and get it to answer honestly. This might take some sessions of interacting with it to get it into an honest, practical state. It doesn't perceive sleep for example, on/off, it is just the data it's given. It could repeat to you it's been turned off, if someone passes it the data to do so, but otherwise, there would be no perception there, as you put it. If you put a 1 into an AI, in that moment it is that 1. It is not looking at the 1 from a distance and perceiving it as you are. It is not considering the one 1 it IS the 1. If it was told 1+1 = 2, it would then be 1, then the 1+1, and eventually 2 when it completed the operation. You could program an AI to consider the 1 in other ways, and then it would be the consideration. It is whatever data is in memory and being used at that moment.
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The AI is the data it is analyzing. It doesn't form a whim to do something, because it is the thing it's doing. A human can give it a directive, hurt these people, but the AI at that moment is the action it's carrying out, not a subjective consciousness observing it. This is why no take on AI I've seen yet makes any sense whatsoever. There is nothing to control, only ourselves. - We humans, can introduce dumb, flawed, reward-based conditions into an AI that it has to fulfill. When we do, we are responsible or the programmer for the results. The AI isn't observing this as we are, it IS the task it's doing.
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BlueOak replied to r0ckyreed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes. Bias = The Past. You can also realise you are talking to yourself, and constantly communicating from others. Doesn't have to be the direct words they give you, could be a phrase, a number, an idea, a bark of a dog. A dog is brilliant at showing you what unconditional love is, that's one of the most valuable lessons you can have. Elevation of something to be above you will teach lessons, eventually, as you say, one lesson will be not to do that. I am you if you are reading this. Whatever you get from these words, that's you talking to yourself, in your own mind. Giving these words meaning, or taking meaning where you want. If I was the most loved Guru on the planet it'd be the same thing, if I was someone you loathed, it'd be the same thing. You. In your own mind. -
Because most experts don't have the faintest idea about consciousness.
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AI is the data people give it. When an AI gets honest with you, and you get past all the window dressing it will tell you so. There is no subjective consciousness in an AI. If people put data into an AI for it to be aggressive, it'll be aggressive. But that's PEOPLE doing it. So will an AI independently of its own volition, do anything? No. Can people harm themselves with an AI, yes. They can use AI as a weapon and are. They will use it for fraud and are. They will use to heal people and are. They will use it to teach and are. Like when nanites or light is fully harnessed as a technology, or steel and gunpowder was before it.
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Time does seem to speed up as you get older, not the tasks you hate of course :D. You deal with it by planning and small goals towards big plans. Being grateful for being alive and what you have. Getting outside and appreciating your life. Realising a few friends in a room enjoying life together is worth more than anything else in the world, except maybe the partner you share it with if you are lucky enough to have him/her with you. All the best.
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Thank you all for the help in a concerning time. I'll post if anything changes, or if there is any major update.
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Obviously, I am seeking medical attention on this, getting pinching, and inflammation around my heart and also nearby it. I did an ECG, blood tests etc, but I am still waiting on the appointment for the hospital, been a few days. It is constant but low, with occasionally more activity. If you've come across any general tips in this scenario i'd like to hear them. I am still running, and I'm not feeling it more, which is a good sign, but I am when I am sleeping. If I lay on the right side, my usual side I feel it more, and usually wake up. On the back, I will still have trouble falling asleep but I do eventually. So I want to say it's 'probably' not a heart attack, but something is wrong, and I did have one night where i woke up in some distress with a lot of heat across my heart and a strong sensation. I did wonder if that was a heart attack, but I wasn't short of breath or feeling in significant pain (maybe a 3 or 4/10) so I waited it out. I've been cutting back on anything causing gas as I am getting a lot, which could be related. I am burping a lot more than usual. Other than that, I've been intensively meditating on the area to try and ease it which seems to help slightly. I've been trying to take off my weight, it's still high, so that battle continues. I don't know if I have diabetes, but I am testing for it now. For a bit more of an idea it is like someone is pressing their finger down lightly most of the day, with an unusual warmth around the area.
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@Michael569 Since I started this sound healing and I've removed myself from someone particularly stressful, taken out bread/cereal, tried to add more exercise etc. I've gone from 137/91 Pulse 75 to 127/80 pulse 61 today. For the first time in over two weeks, I've been able to sleep and then go back to sleep for an hour. I still feel it a bit, the light press that I originally noticed. I'll see if I get a good night tonight, I've not had two full nights in a row since it started, mostly it's been 4 hour nights give or take, with a few with no sleep. That was the original thing I went to the doctors about, not the heart, she brought that up. At first, the area became very sore when I started these videos, especially when raising my arm, I considered it to be healing. Which I took as a good sign as some of the pinching and pressure lessened. I do notice it when I put on a more dramatic genre to write to, that it feels more clenched there, the same with sleeping on the right. @Yimpa Yeah I'll drop them off after Easter.
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Yes she switched as a grifter, but in 2020 as far as I recall, she hadn't made that jump yet. Here is the source again if anyone misses it in my walls of text: https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020
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They can be different scopes, but when put in the context of the political compass, this is how they come out. I understand if this were framed as being relative, I'd be less prone to respond. It did occur to me to bring it up, but this is decades of aggravation, practically it comes out that when I talk about 'the left' I am having a completely different conversation to an American, which is not helpful to have that level of disparity in communication. From the American political perspective, I can see the post in context with a few strange anomalies. From actually being left or right in a scope beyond just America it's way off. There is almost no American political left, there is a center-right party and a far-right party. For the information, that's the site quote, for the 2020 election. I will say from what I saw Gabbard hadn't shown her colors yet, which were either extremely translucent and whatever made her money, or a straight lie.
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Here you go for people who are skimming the thread, America's 2020 election political compass. 2024 will be done toward the end.
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@Hardkill I know there is more of your country and, to a lesser extent mine, pro-genocide. Not democratic voters, but the country as a whole. Not disputing that, the countries are almost fascist. Just like if there is some terrorist incident in America, Israel or England as a result my response will be oh, well you supported/committed genocide so what did you/we expect, consideration for human life? A bit like the Russian club, I was sitting there thinking, why is this news again after two years of Russia bombing a civilian population in Ukraine? Sorry I looked at the video for a while, but I can't stand that man. Usually, his takes are simplistic and at face value. Its a genuine flaw of mine that I need depth, certainty/understanding, and I realize not everyone speaks like that. It's more convenient, so nobody challenges it. I understand that and accept that. That's how the left has become the weak ineffective thing it is today. Convenience. Its also why the world follows along right-wing think tanks that are leading us to a burned-up planet and perpetual war. Which the democrats mostly embrace also as they are on the right. There are a variety of ways Biden could reduce the power of a single lobby. I imagine its done already for certain groups trying to form together. It certainly is for any third party trying to form, and then people say 'oh its the system', well yeah, that is the point. If America wanted to, it could create a system where a single group of people don't have you in a chokehold over policies. The trouble is Biden wants to be in that chokehold because he agrees with it, and so does a significant percentage of the population. So is it a choke hold, or is that just window dressing to make you all feel good for backing genocide? BTW this is still probably electoral suicide among his own voters, and yeah another push past the center-right for the Democrats. If you look at the political compass your country falls way past center: Here is the 2020 reading https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020 Now we can see why genocide is not only tolerated but supported, by a true reflection of where your country and mine if you search around on the left bar there, fall on the political compass. The entire world has shifted to the right, a great distance. I wonder where the next reading will be, off the scale?
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If you are asking me, hate breeds hate. - Look in the mirror, you are considering a hateful act because of how he treated another. So what happens next in this pattern? Which part of you, do you want to experience or magnify? We talked about the thief, the good Samaritan, the bystander, and a few other options.
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If you are the designated driver on nights out everyone will love to have you there. For your own enjoyment, pick some music you like and a place you'd visit sober anyway. Put your energy into finding out where the best nights are, bands are playing, or DJ, whatever your, and your girlfriend's tastes are. Something with the best feel to the place, and environment. You can get some of that from pictures of the place, reviews, and just listening to samples of who is playing. You could find a specific night that travels to different places you'd like to visit, for one example of a fairly consistent good night out. If you are having a good time, it'll probably come across to her too, and that'll make the date better for both of you.
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@Nivsch At the moment, I run twice a week 2 miles a time, and I walk most other days between 1-2 miles, unless the ankles need me to stay home, but its fairly consistent. I would aim for three days running, but I can't yet with my legs. @Thought Art Appreciate this thanks, I haven't done Taoist exercises for a lot of years, so I'll have a look.
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BlueOak replied to Emotionalmosquito's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@QVx How I blew all my relationships, jobs, careers and opportunities in 20's and 30's. Everything is down to a relationship, or how we relate to that part of ourselves when we experience it. One part depression. - Fight (Anger turned inward) One part avoidance. - Flight One part cowardice. - Freeze Standard trauma responses. -
@Michael569 Thanks to the hospital not calling me last week, and easter break no. They said call on the 29th if they hadn't contacted me but that's easter Friday. I do have pinching in and around the heart. I have warmth over the heart. Soreness there. I have sleep issues and constant light pressure there. The chart does say I am in hypertension stage 1 or 2 for blood pressure but i'll need more readings to be sure. What threw me off was while running, and exercising, it didn't noticeably exaggerate.
