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BlueOak replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For me, that would be a stage yellow problem. Holding both perspectives at once. I fully understand why others would prefer to integrate them together. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For me it's a deeper codependent pattern, or at least the end of one that I haven't yet cleared. Everyone offers different perspectives, some argue them with others, some don't care to argue or speak further once its offered, only a relatively small amount stay in a discussion arguing that others accept theirs alongside their own. At least I don't see many doing so, but without arguing for that space for multiple perspectives to exist, achieving any level of existence without conflict seems less likely. But the older I get the more I see that behavior I have as unhealthy. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, I apologized. I need to keep reminding myself through these discussions that accepting multiple perspectives means actually accepting them, not equivocating them into a larger one. Equivocating them is still a codependent behavior, as opposed to just offering the perspective and then leaving. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Eh I am doing it again, I am arguing with someone to accept reality as I see it, and for that, I apologize. I wonder if one day I'll break that habit. Hope springs eternal. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What makes you think what you said is any more true than what I said? There will be nothing at all you can point to. Because you created the representation anyway. Take any subject at all, any representation you can make, any perception or form of it. Infinity has an infinite amount of possible perspectives. All we do is pick things to create or observe an experience. Structure or order things to have them make sense and become material and usable. You are severely limiting yourself deciding only one perspective has truth to it. You could tomorrow decide the complete opposite about something in your experience, and you'd still be true/correct. *In fact all conflict comes from human's inability to take two perspectives at once as true. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Existence is non-dual and dual. I don't understand why people need so badly for one to be true. People exist and don't exist. Truth is true and not. Things are relative and not. Infinity doesn't have a single answer. Its infinity. Its all answers. I can keep reflecting the opposite of the division people (and I) enjoy, or keep saying this. If someone decides 1, What real means to them - then 2, An image means not real - then 3, The things around them are images separate from the words he/she hears - then 4, Defines those images to be non-existent figments of imagination. Well that's entirely their line of reasoning made up in their own mind. It'd be the same if it was the opposite. Its no more true or false than me saying all minds are interconnected sharing an experience. One framework for existence is however more solitary and miserable. The other is filled with infinite possibilities. But both are a choice. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everything is relative except observing or creating something to observe. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
However, you decide to represent reality to yourself is correct. If you decide you are alone you are right. If you decide there is infinite complexity to life and many gods/minds/people sharing a global experience you are also right. If you decide both you are right. -
BlueOak replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Essentially a powerful message here in this context. The closer the words you say are to the universal fractal design, the more they are likely to take root. The closer your actions are, the more likely they are to find success. The closer your ideas are, the more they are usable, stable, or enhancing. I've always known this but I've had a lot of resistance to it. -
BlueOak replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Keryo Koffa Thank you. That's a very comprehensive way to structure different aspects of physical and behavioral experience, and how they link to non-physical experience. The Birth/Death/Birth fractal pattern is a piece missing in this model that would be interesting, as it would frame more of it, but I feel I should say take a rest for a good long while, that was a big download. My intuition is saying don't push yourself in these, take it slow and steady. We hide aspects of reality all the time. Either through focus, a universal magnifying glass looking at something. Parts of our mind being engaged, while others are not. Having energy available to do or be something. The universal fractal consciousness design, limits access to certain patterns, until we align in certain ways with the greater whole more. This happens both in physical and non-physical life, all through our life experience, it is no different when talking about altered states of consciousness, or what people call spiritual gifts for example. These things unlock when the pattern we are aligns in the correct ways. A disconnect I had was, that I was considering these states of experience somehow separate from each other. Sleep - Wake - Meditation - Altered State of Consciousness. What you've done is give me a model that allows all these pieces to better fit. Not completely, you still described these things like separate subjects. But I can see yet more cause/effect here linking them now and for that I wanted to offer gratitude. Language is hugely fractal, and forms understanding, which forms our representation of the world, which forms our world. Here is someone you might find interesting. I'm not 100% in alignment with his perspective/reality, but it might give you something. -
BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He can't see he's deciding on what image means, the relationships between the things, the concept of real, other people. He's deciding on the meaning of the words, and how they frame reality. So even his frame of reality is completely subjective, or the fact reality has any frame at all. But we can't convince him otherwise either, because he's correct he's the only person in his reality or mind. There are just several billion interconnected or possible realities on earth. If he wants to he can experience them, if he doesn't he won't. Why create a reality that has nothing in it at all, that's why you built all of this, because the opposite isn't pleasant, or useful or educational whatever. Humans can literally recreate how they represent reality to themselves in any way they like. Its a fun mystery to unravel it all, but that also is just a process you've created to experience. -
@Nivsch Straight talk, nobody in that region has a realistic chance at stabilizing it peacefully now. People will just eventually tire of violence. Until a tragedy in response to this is great enough to flare it up again on a large scale. Large groups in survival situations don't often respond unpredictably. It will be a % that decides violence is the best course of action, if I say 5% radicalize of 2 million from gaza that's 100k, 200k if we say 10%. After that its less predictable, depending on how connected people are to those dying or affected. The Westbank has 2.6 million people living there, 5.2 million in Lebanon, How many more recruits do Hamas or Hezbollah get from this? Hezbollah is 100,000 or so currently. Shall we say a combined 50,000 more radicalize from these two regions which are affected but less so, which is optimistically less than 1%. We are up to 150k to 250k. The Houthi are about 200k largely out of range but involved in hitting or detering your shipping, which is hurting you economically. So we are at 350k to 450k. Surrounding countries, shall we say 20,000 more total are contributed to these radical groups, which is a very small number percentage-wise. 370k to 470k. Seems a reasonable number of new opponents, adding to the ones you had before. Direct Iran involvement backed by Russia is still a possibility, it's good for Russia if the West is distracted here. I think that is unlikely though despite the rhetoric. Though if we say Hezbollah do stay more involved while Iran is interested in doing so, not exactly new opponents, but nevertheless given cause and reason to fight. 470k, to 570k, adding to whatever forces you currently face.
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BlueOak replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for the Qualia mention, not seen that before. Makes sense. At the moment I understand when we sleep we re-intergrate with our infinite awareness. So I was interested to see how you worded that in the way you were modeling reality. The disconnect is, I understand I am always the wider awareness deciding to be limited, yet I've experienced awareness shrinking and growing to be small or infinitely so big dimension no longer exists. Fractal is more defining than saying cyclic, like the golden mean re-creating itself eternally, or the perpetuation of physical existance: ex: Seed to Planet to Seed, done in a fractal form. It also makes sense how breaks in a pattern are magnified until a new one emerges. I think this way of looking at it will help. A while ago I asked if I could get back more to spiritual focus, thanks for coming when you did. I've felt Kundalini Energy as an example, but wouldn't the spine also just be observed in that process? And so be inside the awareness? At least if we've developed any energetic or body awareness, or allowed our awareness to encompass the body by default. - The universe around us would also be doing the movement along the spine in some form on a macro level. We can still do similar things dreaming unconsciously. Just like we can do tasks unconsciously while awake to a certain degree, following through the motions. Just setting intent before we sleep is usually enough, unless my greater universal mind wants to show me or do something else, or it doesn't serve life to do what I intended. Awakening is not a singular event, it happens over and over and over forever if we allow it. You can also close off parts of your being and reopen them, often by design to give you glimpses of more. You have to do this for example if your upper energy centers are drained or out of alignment, they no longer function as they did. ex: Becoming increasingly selfless, raises the amount of energy you have available in your upper centers for them to begin to function. Whereas being more selfish, means you are allocating more energy/focus/time/motion to your own desires. A more simple example, is just being shattered after a long day at work, and you want to switch off entirely (go largely unconscious). The reason many of us don't dream is that we are mentally engaged all day every day or stressed out, its not a lack of development or universal will for awareness to connect in that way, its a lack of retained energy. All of us get signals from our senses all day every day, we just don't notice them or even know they are relevant, sometimes by design too. -
No. The vast majority will grow up hating israel. A percentage will radicalize, and you will have a couple of hundred thousand more people looking to do you harm, a few hundred thousand if we include the surrounding countries. It won't matter if its this name or another name they take as their identity.
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BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The only constant is observation. 'Real' is a concept in the infinite consciousness. Image, head and eyes are something you've decided upon. Human is something you've decided upon. , There is nothing else deciding the word head/human/real or image are words to be used but you. We decide it is collectively because it helps structure reality to be something we can observe or experience in an ordered, useful, and hopefully pleasant way. Chaos is unpleasant. What I just said is just as real as whatever concept you've decided you prefer. What makes you think infinity is incapable of looking through another set of eyes? That's just one more experience you can have, like anything else. There are no set constraints but what we as a collective (the greater you) has decided. These guru's you hear about disappearing and reappearing or starting fires with their chi or whatever else, its just splashing paint on a page and watching it. I gave that example because its probably the most extreme concept or shaping of reality I've experienced, having an infinite-sized consciousness one night when I couldn't sleep was also up there, but its no different to the dog barking or you drawing a funny image. -
Putin got a warrant for kidnapping kids. All the death he's caused he's not being sort for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Vladimir_Putin_and_Maria_Lvova-Belova Plenty of allegations against him, but just one crime. Here is the specifics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
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BlueOak replied to OldManCorcoran's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The words are spoken, and they are your own thoughts. The image is there, and it is only in your head. They are directly connected, and only in you. They exist, directly connected, but they are still you. It's like a tunnel or connection of neurons inside a global consciousness. One more example of the micro - macro representation of life. You are also that global or infinite consciousness. Take a spiritual journey into another's memories. See-through their eyes. This will help bridge a missing gap here by direct experience. How? Set the intent, you are everything remember Including whatever image you are looking at or words being spoken. Easiest done while you sleep, because you drop or lessen individual identity naturally. and with a family member who no longer exists here but was fond of you, as you'll probably get easier access (that last bit is just my assumption). I've seen people do it for a collective or group, me i've only ever done it for the individual pieces of my own psyche, or with a close long dead family member giving me access. Also make sure you are in a good, calm space before you do this, fair warning. Though I doubt it'll be something you can do outside of a loving state (selfless state), again that is my assumption, but to let go of the self, I've found you need to be selfless. Another good example that just came to mind, is those who can meditate and experience the state of being something else, like a creature of some kind, I hear a butterfly is common but i've not tried it. All this could just be called another state of mind, a way to represent another perspective entirely without going anywhere, and I just represent this in a flashy dramatic way to get my own attention. -
BlueOak replied to Keryo Koffa's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Keryo Koffa Could I ask you to represent or detail the act of physical sleeping and dreaming within this model of reality? -
I agree in part, however: You can deconstruct all identities and still be or believe you are completely powerless over anything. The deconstruction that needs to happen is whatever is separating you from achieving what you want. If that is leading a church, deconstructing religious identity isn't going to help. If that is as a business owner, deconstructing capitalism isn't probably going to help you much. Same with anything. Then there is manifestation, or the ability to create what you want, which also needs an equal or greater amount of work. Also learning what you want, and understanding yourself/others/reality etc.
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Nothing ever goes away. It goes somewhere else. Every time a liberal dismisses a populist, ridicules a socialist warning, and stamps upon popular concerns, those popular concerns look elsewhere to find a voice or expression.
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Sadly as America has dropped Ukraine, and the EU is not producing enough munitions. I see a few scenarios, not mutually exclusive. 1, Europe needs to provide more in America's place, and increasingly militarize its industries.. This is the reality of American isolationism becoming manifest. Which is difficult in a cost-of-living crisis, one magnified by BRICS actions. 2, Funding for Insurgency fighting within Russian-occupied areas and Russia itself. 3, Increasingly copying Russian tactics using manpower rather than firepower. Horrific for the soldiers and for PR. But PR doesn't matter in a world where Ukraine is fighting Russia on its own. 4, The continuing destabilisation of Ukraine and the flow of refugees out of it, destabilizing the surrounding countries further. - Anti Migration rising up more. Pushing rightwing governments ever more right. 5. America and EU continue to pull apart from each other, which is a definite possibility if Trump aligns further with Putin. 6, Partitioning of Ukraine, I said at the start of the war this was the most likely. 7, An EU army. 8, Preparing for WW3, or at least a large regional war in Europe. That is the historic cycle of this. There is a shift going on if you haven't seen it, across the entire planet. This is the rightwing view going forward here below. Which is of course WW3. Sure its rightwing propaganda but Americans are not understanding the view here, and frankly the American left is even frustrating me listening to it. Certain countries in Europe might not wait for Putin either. People talk about him being almost invulnerable to assassination, he isn't, but till now the fallout of that would have been worse. Now I don't think it would be. It talks about things you won't have considered. Ukraine's counter-offensive failure will have made Russia doubt NATO's military technology. The full reaction of America pulling out of NATO as a stabilizing force. I can't keep stressing this enough, as the US becomes more isolationist, it won't be keeping a lid on conflicts, or stopping them from happening anymore. It might even be funding or supporting Europe's enemies.
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BlueOak replied to FourCrossedWands's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Thank you for getting me to focus on stopping generalizing as much, as it makes empathy impossible -
BlueOak replied to FourCrossedWands's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
We only see ourselves in how we relate to anything. Otherwise there is nothing to see. 1, The six human needs are a universal way to model behavior regardless of our perspective. I didn't write them. Teal swan has used them also for example. Are they perfect no, no model is perfect. Do they help in bridging perspectives, yes. - https://tealswan.com/resources/articles/relationships-and-the-six-human-needs 2, I wrote that i've been in a suicidal damn-the-world headspace before, and I used to be in it quite a lot in my youth. It's led me to make some terrible mistakes, but at the time I didn't care. I still have a dose of nihilism, from time to time. 3, With your reasoning, no communication has value. We are not islands. We are interconnected representations of ourselves. Things are on a gradient, for how much understanding we can have for another's lived experience. Part of that comes from your own life experience, your communication with others over your lifetime, your willingness to listen to them (trust, vulnerability), how you represent them to yourself, and your ability to model reality. Also factors like your connection to your inner self and how much you can draw on that intuition or reference in conversation. -
BlueOak replied to FourCrossedWands's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Understanding why people do the things they do is not at all irrelevant. If only to help out others in similar situations. *If he was that mentally ill though that should 100% be flagged in a database, next to the fact he had 7 firearms. -
@Past-Philosopher-562 To take these in reverse: 2, Get around people who are who you want to be. We naturally are inclined to live in a way, supported by the expectations of our peer group. People reinforce each other. Others are you. You validate yourself. They will say something, you will give it meaning, and then respond to yourself. This effect is multiplied by others with similar aspirations to you, its also easier among minds wanting the same thing. 1, Writing can be part of the process. In 2009 - 2010, I had an awakening from writing about duality, during long stories on science fiction. If you can self-reflect in or from your writing that will help. You can also sell them online for some passive income. I tend to find the honest breakthroughs I make from my own experience, interest people enough to read them. It's a resource inside yourself where others can find value, assistance, comfort, or validation in etc. Learning to be concise, engaging and honest in your writing will help.