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I do. I think it's to different degrees or in different ways. London likes to control money, even more than see entertainment temples to it, which seems to be what casinos are (literal pyramids in some cases). It's more about the power of what controlling money means in London. Out where I am, I think they worship beer or did for many years of my life. It seemed the most sought-after attraction in the decades gone by. There used to be a huge drinking culture in the English countryside. I think some cities rate sport higher than money in terms of importance, seemed that way in Leeds 20 years ago. Ruby, Football, Hockey, the ruby nights were bigger than the football ones, and it was the main topic of conversation sport all day any day. A lot of places in the UK it's about the past, history, and things gone by more than money. There's a lot of local pride in some areas, and that's why people are always talking about how it used to be, what they remember, or what their families remembered.
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@Hardkill Genocide is too far when you respond with words and name-calling? You'll have to break that one down for me, probably in a spin-off thread as we'll derail this one. If they were firebombing the white house in a mass protest or causing riots in the streets, sure. That's what we used to call 'too far'. 20, 30 years ago protests would be huge, in an affected population, you'd see violence, you'd certainly see a lot of pressure groups that forced changed or recognition of a problem. There is no bite back to funding and protecting a genocide. Really calling Joe Biden Genocide Joe shows how weak the left is. Your entire 'far left' apart from maybe Antifa are moderates. The majority report with Jamie and Michael used to be further left, now it's still moderate for me. The American government is closer to center-right on the political spectrum.
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You can just sit down, do nothing at all, and be declared a criminal. Whether people want to help someone or not, or tackle difficult problems communally or individually, that first line I wrote is insane. What did you do to get in here: I robbed a guy. I shot someone. I sat on a bench for too long. Part of this is the work ethic in America eating itself. Idolization of the Rich. Working every hour on earth. Hatred for being poor, extreme hatred for having no home and not working. I picture Vegas as a giant temple to worship money.
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A wise person said to me, Mastery of any craft eventually puts people in a similar place. If you feel you've mastered something, to the point you've reached the beginning of enlightenment. You can either do it again with another skill, or follow that path now. I watched a video on the alchemist story. Maybe you can find it for yourself, there are a confusing amount of similar titles to search through - a good synchronicity for the message of the video: It started with someone seeking enlightenment, and through the video it demonstrated how people get fixated on aspects of life, distracted or perhaps meant to stay in those aspects for a time, and go through them instead. Eventually, years later towards the end of the man's life he realised that what he was seeking was always himself. To bring that you, is to realise in you saying: You are seeking a freer and better life. Well that sounds like you doesn't it? Nothing much freer than existence itself, and 'better', what do you mean by that? What does better really mean to you? Does it mean going back to master something? Or does it mean you want a loving caring partner, or a the ability to sit down and enjoy life? A few friends who enjoy each others company? What is better?
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BlueOak replied to Thought Art's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
There is plenty of food to get there, but they won't let it in. It's part of the ethnic cleansing to remove them from gaza and resettle it as part of Israel. Which may end in genocide, as many will never leave. There is still a chance to course correct for everyone, but people have that much indifference to human lives in these generations that I don't see it. The usual deaths of hundreds of thousands don't evoke the same reactions it did 20 or 30 years ago, and no one reply that it's the same unless you were alive to witness the difference. - We've gone so far to the right that most reactions are unsympathetic, and there is no left pull to balance it out. Sanction Israel - Force aid in by air or sea - Stop weapon shipments to Israel! Stopping them to Ukraine isn't going to stop this LOL! It'll just create another problem the other side of the world. -
I had a great friendship with an autistic person, she was very honest. I am as well, so we got along well. The only problem was that she was quite demanding on my time, and breaks in routine were difficult for her, but it was time well spent. I've been listening to authors talk about not revealing all of a character's intent at once, because nobody does that or is that self-aware of their faults. I sit there thinking, well I don't layer things in my communication. I don't mask what I mean for the sake of timing. I will do things for THEM if I feel it's going to hurt them, or a make situation worse, but I don't need that filter the other way. I had to lie today about a financial situation to stay afloat. I hated it. Every fake BS trick I had to pull out of an old ugly box I never wanted to touch again. Come prepared with some insight. Produce something they weren't expecting to make a good first impression. Sit straight, make eye contact, have a little humor with some light banter about something positive, talk up some strengths, find common ground, talk about them, listen when they raise a point, and if you hear something you know remark on it to bond. It's almost the same robotic monotonous garbage that's taken over the dating world, it's not free communication; it's double filtered (you and them). Even worse if it's from a book, video, or secondhand experience you've had. Then it's: the author + their source + the person reciting it + you, and it becomes unnatural to the person speaking it, or hearing it. Blink three times, click your heels, act this way, bang your head against the wall X times and hey you've got your job, girl, movie formula, whatever flawed communication.
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Pushing to get a novel out and I have a heart problem keeping me from sleeping properly to work on it effectively, that and a lot of financial BS that involves me needing to lie and I can't tell you how much I hate lying. There was a moment a few nights ago when I thought that was the last night i'd be here, (I made peace with either outcome) but I won't know how serious it is until the hospital get back to me about a scan.
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It takes many. They are the world. - The individualism in this thread, not just you, needs to shift toward groupthink and highlighting examples of how individuals affect a group, but the group makes something out of it. It takes one person to start something or bring a message, or idea, but without others embracing it, grounding it, and making it real you are talking to the wind. If Amazon was in Jeff Bezos's head or on one computer somewhere, it wouldn't be a thing. Instead, Amazon IS millions of people working, and millions/billions of users, its not Jeff Bezos, and the more people get this, the more they can bring about the change they want toward Green. Consider how the second person in your team/group/copying you is more valuable than you are. The second person in the group repeating what you are saying or doing, taking something within your own bias and expanding it. That is what gives it more interest to others. Then the millionth person doing what are you doing is how it changes the world. What does this mean: Guidance for those people you are trying to help, is more important than the initial messages or communication you gave to them. Your guidance is more important than your idea, message or even the problem you were trying to fix in the first place. That's green (with some yellow sprinkled in).
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So light hits the prism of earth and we see a small band of what becomes visible. With meditation, substances, and certain practices like the third eye, or work on intuition you can see or interact with more. Certain technologies allow other things to be used or manifested on earth from further afield, infra red or ultra violet for example. Mahasamadhi for me lets me leave the body and be my greater intelligence or 'capacity', which is available to be after this life if we want it, or we can go around again, by altering small details like we would tweak a melody in production. We do create limits yes, but can you see this implies a level of detachment? I would say you are the limit, or you are the object, obstacle, success, movement, answer etc. It doesn't look like it some days, especially at our lowest in a passive state, but then our state of mind/being would be the limit in that case. Other people can often be the answer, because our bias is our past, and often to grow we need to look at their perspective of viewing this light hitting the earth and showing them infinity through another lens. Sometimes we don't need any other perspective at all, but often some skill is lacking, a mistake they made can be learned from, some knowledge, or an item we need produced etc.
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Yes. It's highlighting the point. The region they come from defines how they act, it doesn't make it healthy. If I had grown up in a city and joined a gang and was still in one I'd be talking to you in a certain way. it wouldn't be healthy for a normal life, but it'd be how I had to be to stay in the gang. We can do the same with anything, jobs, careers, abusive relationships, war-torn countries, poverty. It's still a choice to push one way or the other, no matter what is in front of you. That's often the only choice we get. You can choose in life to divide or to unite. Bring things together or pull them apart. In its simplest form, that's what people do. Act in a fear-based reasoning or the opposite. I will add that things can always get worse. We can do a few scenarios, but the region is unstable, on the present course these come to mind: 1) You can always hate someone more. It's a gradient, in what you are willing to do. People are willing and need to be more hostile towards israel for their own domestic population's expectations, their friends and families are dying. Meaning more aggression against trade routes, borders and sabotaging Israel where they can. (Also against America and the UK for backing them) 2) America keeps going isolationist - BRICS becomes ascendant, and Iran crushes Israel because nobody cares about them anymore. 3) They create 200,000 new suicide bombers. 10% of the Gaza population. There might be many more than that if enough fanatics are grown because of the genocide in other countries or regions. People still talk about the Jewish genocide 80 years later. Do you understand the time scale of these things? We talk about some cultures thousands of years later. 4) Israel's leadership is no longer considered sufficient, it needs to be more militaristic for a population that has come to expect it, and so generates a worse outcome in the region and a wider regional war. 5) Same as above, but with more religious leaning, we get an even more conservative religious government in Israel, making further problems more likely dealing with other faiths, not less. If violence achieves the aim, then violence will be used again. 6) Another country declares war on Israel for slowly starving 2 million people and causing a refugee crisis nearby. - A wider regional war. 7) Sanctions are put on Israel, and the country regresses. I'm favor of this one right now, leveraging it to create a peaceful outcome. 8) You know BRICS are going to use this for decades to hit the west with. In every way you can conceive, and who can blame them? Only China will need to be careful, as they've got plenty of skeletons in their closet. 9) And this one is all but assured. If Israel is allowed to genocide Palestine, it creates opportunities for other countries to do so. Everyone that does it, normalizes it. China has done a fair bit of this in recent decades, which was always banned to talk about, which made the problem hidden and worse. - America invading Iraq the second time, was quoted by Russia and Israel in their own wars as an example. Russia fighting its wars gave central asia the greenlight for their own, it made Turkey and Greece start looking at war again, the same with the Balkans etc. War creates more war. Suffering creates more suffering. You pick to divide or pull things together. - At the moment you are choosing division and suffering, and to hear it from you surprises the hell out of me to be frank.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I know this has been made public but explosions and social unrest has been going inside Russia since the war started, mostly focused on war-related infrastructure but not always. Those explosions and deaths are just less useful for propaganda purposes. It's an impossibly big country to defend from infiltration and has gigantic amounts of room for insurgents to move around in, with a whole host of countries across the global that are hostile to it. Oh and two well-known insurgent groups made from Russian's themselves, plus local grievances from minorities used up as cannon fodder. -
Everyone's experience is different. If you don't have much experience with energetic work or body awareness you might not believe or appreciate this: During intensive meditation, I have energy that runs through my fingers, to the point I feel like they want to pull apart, but are also too heavy to move. I do heal during meditation, I feel muscles relax, headaches go, the body expels gas, and gives me an accelerated healing of ailments. I can tune in to myself, and line up what happens in the day (not I the greater intelligence outside this body), to avoid unnecessary things happening. It doesn't stop problems or challenges, but it does avoid something unnecessary happening. This, in effect, makes the day flow better and any problems heal faster. What it can't do (or I can't do) is correct a big defect, I can ease the soreness in my shoulder for example and avoid hurting it more during the day, but I can't remove the scar or operation I had. So if I was Sadghuru I would have tried to meditate the headache away at first, oxygenating the head can also help (head rolling techniques) or breathing exercises. Its not wise to avoid getting a condition treated, unless he for some reason concluded that missing those appointments was a worse result than the resulting problem (and future missed engagements). I don't have the experience of knowing exactly what's going on inside myself, though I get hints from intuition, body awareness, and dreams.
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Yes the entire thing is backwards. Forward involves looking beyond our own perspective, and using the outside world's resources, not our own internal bias. Our Internal bias is our past and brings the same result. The rest of Infinity sits outside of it. The quickest way to move on, is bringing others into the equation in some form. I get that desperate people do desperate things. If there was an authority in Palestine that was not advocating for victory or death, do you honestly think the majority wouldn't follow it - If they had the guns and power? I would say it depends on the quality of life, but even more who holds the guns and power. At the moment that's a violent gang of young men. Here is one solution: Each region of Palestine is given statehood, and supported by an international coalition. These micronations become easier to manage, and smaller than Israel is. They slowly form a separate legitimized identity in each region, and become responsible for it. Local civil authorities would be responsible for policing themselves and if they do something aggressive, they would be the ones to suffer the consequences directly. Giving people food, water, shelter, and health, no more living in fear and responding out of it. Terrorists (and kids with guns) would be surgically arrested or taken out by special forces, and intelligence services with backing from the local civil authorities. The leaders in Qatar of Hamas should be immediately removed. If enough nations got involved, and brought specialists in, guaranteeing peace in those small countries, then it could move forward. Its not a big nation-building effort, it is putting in a police force in two small countries, giving each country legitimacy and a voice, then backing it up with a large coalition to make sure they become sustainable in things like food and water or exports. At the moment, it's largely kids with guns, I don't know what the mean age of males is, only that it will be below 19 the average for men and women. You have to treat these immature minds as you would radicalized teenagers, and there are experts on gangs and radicalization that could help. Is any of this easy no, but its better than genocide and all the repercussions that will come about. Would civil authority be challenged, yes. It often is in chaotic areas of the world, but having it around means it can be supported. These would not be huge countries to do this in. Its not the first country in anarchy that people have supported a police force being created in to bring about order. The fundamental point is, that people prefer peace to war when the conditions are safe. You will never convince me otherwise as it goes against every experience I have had to date. 1,500 dead is very different from 150,000 dead. The amount of hate and suffering is often equivalent to the amount of cyclic hate and suffering it generates. The more families affected, the greater the reprisal. If you genocide a population, it doesn't end there, especially in a region where you are an increasingly isolated culture, and you are genociding people related to the surrounding cultures. I could tell how this has worked out historically, where a small powerful group has taken over an area and effectively genocided the natives, NOT WELL. I understand Israel is reasonably well protected by itself and America (provided America's isolationist trend reverses), but you must understand that if 150,000 people are killed, the country doing it will suffer for several generations the kinds of acts that brought this about. It doesn't always come about by violence either, I've talked about isolation. Cultures bathed in violence often stagnate and die, sometimes it's the last gasp of a way of life to commit genocide against other people. Because if you kill 150,000 people next door, and you are okay with that, what does that do to your domestic population, that level of slaughter and death being normalized? Do you see a well-functioning society living harmoniously afterwards? Even if the external threats are kept at bay for a time. Frankly when I listen to the Israeli diplomats they sound like detached lunatics to me, certainly not the only ones that do, there is a lot of fanatical behavior in the region. Another example, Russia is an alcoholic at a bar, and their now more isolated country is crumbling, surrounded by enemies and with the blood of a large number of civilians on their hands seeking vengeance. Its population and infrastructure have been falling apart for a while outside of a few urban centers, but the real threat will be within its own oversized country for a few generations. The world has become very good at dissociating from their actions and pretending they don't have consequences. Its got VERY good at BS and living in BS. So perhaps people could lie and live in denial. You can do like England does and tell everyone things are going great, when it's consistently getting worse here (at least in the east), but the reality always wins out in the day-to-day experience of life. This is without even touching on this concept: Let's say you were slaughtered by an Israeli in your last life, gunned down in the street. Who do you reincarnate as? Possibly as an Israeli bringing all that trauma with you, or their mortal enemy, or someone the other side of the planet who wants nothing to do with it all I guess. Ditto on the other side of this war, its just one more part of the cyclic suffering.
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Source? Show me a source of several (or as many as you know), of people out of the Hamas gang or the Hamas Qatar leadership that are speaking this message. I'm sure you can find them if you tried, but you'll probably begin to realise most people prefer food, water, and safety over violence. That's universal. Its the gang mentality in young men that inspires and perpetuates violence, which is also a universal problem. I'm not going to say you can't tie that up with religion, but the practical implications are the same. Young men in a gang with guns using violence to achieve an end.
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The short version is: Palestine needs a police force and civil authorities not a military occupation if people REALLY want peace and stability.
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The Palestinians are mostly children with their age range, the median being 19 (lower in males), they don't even have a voice, or communications. If they did speak I would speak to them and treat them as I would a child or teen involved in a gang. Some leadership in Qatar told the people with guns to give you that message and now you are telling me it. They did this because it kept them in power, they have an opponent, and they run an organized gang mostly comprised of people too young to vote and the few that lived long enough to perpetuate it. Certain Israeli policies and government officials have also been able to continue their existence by having them as opponents which is why the following is never supported by either side: Not allowing a solid government to form in Palestine (and assist it) is Israeli's biggest mistake, because any measure of authority that would be held responsible for what is happening doesn't even live there. They would have an official body to interact with, this would also legitimize the Palestinians as having their own country, and allow a carrot and stick approach. Instead, we have a refugee camp ruled by a gang, not a country secured by police and civil authorities. I am honestly not willing to break all the alternate routes this could have gone down, or the more sensible options that were available. i've done many posts on it it's a waste of time. Countries want to act on their own, without global legitimacy for their actions, this is a global trend, so their leadership at least should bear the consequences alone and not be given an infinite supply of weapons for their individual ambitions. If they want to act as part of an international effort to bring peace, or retrieve hostages for example that is one thing, but my government in the UK, and in the US are responsible for facilitating the genocide in the region and shielding those responsible from the natural consequences of such an action. (Just as other countries do for Hamas and Iran)
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We can go through a hundred courses of action again but nobody cares. I've done it three times. People want the war, so it continues. I'll instead list the obvious ways fights between nations end. Others stop them. Resources run out. Weapons, money etc. The fighting age population is depleted. The leadership is toppled. Diplomacy. A peaceful leader fosters a movement of non-violence. Public protest against a war. Collapse of a country. Invasion of a country. Some external disasters like famine or drought. People lose stomach for the slaughter. Its not two men slugging punches at each other till one drops. Its millions of people, various different groups that are largely controlled from outside the country with a long history of violence. In this analogy, the two people fighting are nowhere near each other and the people being hit have seen violence for generations. You think one more horrific violent display on people who are largely moved as puppets, does anything but create more suffering later down the line? In your logic we'd have to be at WW3 or in a larger regional war to achieve the result, which nobody wants.
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Truthfully. Is this the only end to violence you have seen or experienced? That one side beats the other until it no longer can fight or wants to fight?
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Like I told everyone at the start, the natural conclusion to this is cyclic suffering. It's impossible to be certain, as it could spill into a different country, however: 1) The obvious point is Israel is slowly left alone and isolated, surrounded by the many enemies that have all collectively, including Israel, created the situation that will dominate that region over the coming decades. America is slowly pulling its sphere of influence back, and this is a catalyst to do so. 2) The alternative path is always there. That people are fed up with the slaughter and course correct, but that is unlikely while what is being achieved is not only wanted but shielded from reprisal. If they did this, things could calm down, leading to a period of mourning. 3) A third path is Israel align with BRICS for protection, and BRICS to drop Iran or somehow weave a truce between them, I find it unlikely at this stage, given the history of people interfering in the region, but China carries a lot of weight when it wants to. 4) Maybe people have become so indifferent and turned inward, that when Palestine is gone, nobody will care Palestine is gone. Given the current patterns, I think this is more likely than is expressed here. It'll still be used as a rallying cry forever more, they are creating an entire generation and country of martyrs. My interest in international politics has waned in the last months again, the cycles are too obvious, and the patterns rarely alter, just branch out. All I can do is point them out over and over. *Oh and SHIP supplies to Palestine, stop using stupid choked-up road checkpoints as the point of contact. Check the ship before it leaves port, then take the supplies in trucks after they are checked. That is if people want the population fed and clothed, but instead they want the population out of there by any means necessary.
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I might be talking to the wind here but here is some excellent editing advice, especially if you talk in a lot of passive (Traditional English) voice like I do: I appreciate several of her videos on editing. For most of us starting out we can't afford an editor. A thousand pounds or so for one book that may only make half of that in its lifetime is impractical. I am on the third draft of my 52,000-word novel now. It's a short action and survival novel, with community building, set in a science fiction universe. I started on the 28th of last month and aim to finish before April. I will then write another book set in the same universe and keep adding to it. * Here is another link to help, this lady's videos tend to do deep dives into complicated topics. https://www.youtube.com/@EllenBrock
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Consider it's a teacher's role to make belief systems more flexible. So if we put Sadghuru up on a pedestal for example, that isn't healthy. Leo is often going to tap at any absolute view you hold. If we consider anything absolute, it misses the point of experiencing life or infinity (from every conceivable perspective) If I were pushing the opposite way, fantasies can cause wars, death, and marriages to fall apart, great loves, joys, you to breathe and be born. The power of understanding Genes can unlock some of the most extreme fantasies imaginable. Even if it's due to human consciousness raising to the point where identities are no longer absolute or fixed. People are more able to choose their life's trajectory, selecting healthy genes before birth to eliminate unnecessary suffering as part of the manifestation of that reality. *Also you are the guru and the shop clerk.
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From personal experience. Meditation relieves a lot of issues, and allows increased healing, (focused attention on the area and intent) especially in the deep states someone like this can reach. It affects the internal and external events you'll experience. Sometimes though life teaches you a hard lesson no matter who you are. Ignoring your health is a lesson lots of people experience for different reasons. If you've got a concern go get it checked, don't invent reasons why you are not doing, even if you were there last week, go again. Listen to your body, its how you are in this life. I just went yesterday for a minor thing which the nurse said could have been major, so we did a few tests.
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BlueOak replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
By finding better expressions for conflict. At the moment the opposition to it creates resistance to a natural state and does nothing for the problem of war. Just as censorship never censors anything, it just moves elsewhere. Sports for example, in England much of our social conflict or conflict with our neighbors was replaced by football for the working class, it was almost like a tribal state for some, and violence at football matches in earlier decades was more common. All of which was better than war. Balance. Spending time with that which is hated, resisted, or unknown. Focusing on the average. This is the answer for all things that is missed in almost every human conversation. Everyone looks at the peak or what they could have, the top 10% or what their neighbors have. There is little appreciation or focus on what is, this eternal greed for more creates imbalances that are present throughout all of humanity. I realise some drive is necessary but envy is on the ugly side of humanity. -
BlueOak replied to Someone here's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Stop going ------------------------> Right on mass. That's friction, unsympathetic reactions, stronger national identity, a more splintered world. Blaming everyone else for everything. Having to have a target. Having to look strong, having to use the military, war is how it continues. Just look up fascism, and ask yourself how many of the theme's listed on the right in Wikipedia for example, are now not just present in the country but dominating it. There are a lot of good things on the right too, but from the perspective of being less warlike, not so much. If you don't have the left-wing voices balancing it out in foreign policy, and worse they are suppressed and vilified, welcome to the result. All those people for a generation that wanted to 'own the libs' and vilify anarchism to the point it's barely even there anymore, socialists are a historic almost forgotten group blamed for every evil that ever existed in someone's heads. Well nobody has them to blame anymore because they don't exist in any organized fashion whatsoever. I guess immigrants are still a useful punching bag, oh and the poor are always there to kick, gay people too. None of this will happen of course. All that will happen is this: <------------------------------ A few generations from now, in a yoyo effect, and when people are fed up enough we'll get a swing. -
In order of importance in the UK and Western Europe. Raise people's level of development far enough that living with people, is more important than owning things. Keep improving Verticle farming and how high it goes, reducing cost, and subsidizing it. Reduce reliance on livestock (Beef/Lamb) these two take up the most room for their return in food. Slow Birthrates (Happening now) Stop drying up, and slowly killing areas of the planet forcing immigration. Less war wouldn't hurt. Build more apartments. Put into the culture the notion of large family apartments as the norm, media/news/politics saturation, very hard to break the white picket fences installed in people's minds, but it would be paying huge returns in saving space. Improve high-speed connections for workers between countries, allow workers to work abroad and live at home. Discourage people just building large homes, and leaving large areas of the country unaffordable to live in. Oh you have no workers, well done geniuses. - You can always tell when planning isn't being done right, it's a very hard art to get right. Reward and honor good city planners. Never happens, it should be in the news. Reform the news while we are at it, to be balanced with successes that get no attention and problems that need attention. Teach Systems not subjects. I like this line it's catchy, I'm going to repeat it often. Teach people to look at everything as an interconnected system from education, to training, to their everyday life, relationships, and goal setting etc. Invest in colonizing areas of the world that we don't live in. Deserts, wartorn regions, Tundra. Longterm, over hundreds of years, space colonization for an infinite amount of room. Most land is used up in agriculture. We failed to introduce veganism on mass, so reducing the problem of livestock space, and going verticle is the new alternative. That and getting people to realise a good time with a few people enjoying themselves is worth a hundred mansions and fancy cars. In terms of housing, the way the government divides up agriculture and housing for example into two ministries, makes less sense. When they are so directly connected in the outcome for land use. I understand they have different functions but on this issue, it doesn't help people see the culminating picture. Everything is divided up into subjects and departments with competing interests when it's a connected whole.