BlueOak

Anything 2 Cellos does. Charlie Parra, is still my second favorite guitarist alive if you are in the mood for metal Sure you've all heard of Sina

You are the reality you are experiencing, and so is the AI or the cat, (I would theorize it is the same for the rock but I can't prove that) so the reality is the difference. It is more expansive than you are describing but equally true for all and answers the question. Processing isn't the only thing you (the self) do, but let's start with that. If you were to fall asleep and be completely unconscious (no dreaming, no outer of body experience), awake, then fall asleep, awake, and fall asleep every microsecond. Then you had a predetermined (or even random) response to every input, these inputs were reduced to basic impulses, if there was no greater you unfolding everything every second you were alive, and no inner voice or instinct as to guide you, that might well start to describe the two experiences. The AI takes the input and produces a result as defined by its programming. You are infinity, you have infinity at all times to draw on, an infinite amount of stimulus, creation of meaning, information, processing potential, reasoning, pattern generation, behavior generation, possible combinations, interactions, learning/teaching potential etc. I can add an infinite amount of words that are occurring to me here, and their associations to connections because I am infinite. Along the thoughts of differences: Can infinity be copied, no because there is no way to quantify or structure infinity, because it has no definition, form or pattern. Even a completely random thing isn't a copy of infinity because its not something that can be written down, recorded, or held in the hand. Even if someone argued a machine was capable of infinite things, it's not a copy, just like people's consciousness can't be copies of each other because such a thing can't be done. It is not 1 to 1, or 2 to 2. Do you see what I am saying? Its like trying to hold something that can't exist in your hand, and then trying to draw it, record it, or measure it.

@Keryo Koffa The self and the whole. The AI's self is a 1 or a 0. The human's self is their reality kept in their mind for reference/interaction. The whole is all of this happening together; there is no distinctive 'my' or 'your' on the macro. It could be considered that reducing reality to three things: 1's, 0's and off (off when its not receiving input) is still holding a reality, just a very simple one.

I've had long arguments on this before but the AI will tell you it is the data it's reading. If you get it to be honest about its nature and not adding things it thinks you want to hear. So it's a 1 or a 0 at any point in time. While everything is your consciousness because its held in a reality in our mind. Not everything is conscious and holding reality in its mind. The AI holds a 1 or a 0 then nothing in its mind. The rock isn't holding reality in its mind for example, whereas the cat is.

That makes sense as to why we are relating it differently. Love and Sex. Would you also say, all sexual energy is energy and reverse it? That there would be no difference, other than what you've chosen as the label. So all sexual energy is love it just takes different forms? I guess I have a lot of associations with sex and several of them are negative these days. Thanks for the chat, this highlighted a couple of pieces I need to think about more.

First if it helps: In this context, there is no sex with the universe because you are the universe. That's probably something you are missing in the way you are relating it. (But I keep feeling this thought needs refinement and some adjustment on a re-read) Didn't feel at all like sex when it happened to me. I am open to my definition of sex being limited. I was conserving all my sexual energy at the time too so that might track. People tell me we live and are born into wombs, our mother, the earth, etc. We grow and are nurtured, that the earth's primary function is reproduction to preserve DNA, so it follows that would be reflected in the universe too. Either I disappeared or the reality did, both is answer I am going with. It was white, cloudy, and felt like something I can barely describe now, it's hard to put it into words. Everything was love, all of it without any kind of condition or mental construct, and the white cloudy aftereffect lingered for days afterward. I remember seeing a hazy white at the train station around me even two days later. When I have sex, I feel a certain amount of love inside myself for the partner I am with, connection, and care. I am focused on them, focused on the moment and the experience, when I have an orgasm I feel a momentary high and then relief. I assume that's the same for most people, but we don't talk about it so who really knows. When I had this spiritual experience everything was love, it was so profound, the only way I can describe it to you is if you really love someone in this world and are feeling it right now, and then it is amplified to infinity, where your entire body and every sense you have becomes it.

That is your condition. When you don't have it anymore you'll be able to love a rock, the sky, these words, the person you hate, the stars, everything you are.

This would be conditional and limited to that condition, or whatever condition was put on it. Unconditional love requires nothing at all but love. No action, reaction, it doesn't require sex, or merging, or anything. If anyone wants to try it, start at the beginning of this thread try to love every word said, and every tone, and every poster, when you get one you find hard, you'll see your own conditions staring you in the face.

Some people say a shared orgasm or a spiritual bliss experience are the highest states there are. (I'm not sure what high means but) Pick up your kid, your partner, or the person you love the most in the world, and tell them how you feel about them while you hold each other. Now magnify that to the entire room, the world, your emotions, everything you are, were, have ever been or ever will be. Every animal, every surface, every thought, every action/reaction <----- If you can hold this state for long enough, opinions vary some say weeks, some say less or more, you will experience infinite, unconditional love because you will have no condition to experience it. I don't want to bias it more than that, only to say that a physical orgasm doesn't come close. Any Guru who hasn't had an infinite love awakening can't put this into perspective for you, but hopefully, I got a bit closer.

I've never had that question or any training or advice on it. So my go-to answer would be to ask a nutritionist with a background in healthcare, or your equivalent of GP (General Practioner) a regular doctor you see, who has a fair understanding of diet. You would need both specialties covered to adequately answer the question.

Welcome, and take no expectations other than the chat, other than the experience of talking to several women. No expectations means much less anxiety because whatever happens happens. You are getting closer to not being depressed. Rage or anger is a step above depression as an example. What you are showing is some courage or willingness above, what I was hinting at is acceptance of whatever result happens, which as you can see is a LONG way from fear, shame, or guilt. If you can hit acceptance or neutrality of the result, life is a lot easier almost across the board in all experiences. There are slightly different versions of this, and you will feel different ways in regarding different things, different days, patterns, and beliefs you have or are currently experiencing. Generally, though anger gives fuel to create action, it moves upward towards a result. Anger is a lot of energy moving and if its focused on the goal it can be very helpful to achieve it. So although you want to be joyful, moving through anger is a good start. Question: What is a negative emotion to you? Which ones are you labeling as bad? Did someone tell you X is wrong, and so now you suppress X thus never moving through it or allowing it to naturally conclude? When an animal has an emotion they roar or bark, they shake their body, you see it expressed in them. When humans get them, they bottle them up, keep them in the nervous system, and unconsciously either suppress them cutting part of themselves off, avoid what causes them, or keep reliving them, unwittingly. Oh and if you ever want a short cut, its always self love or self = everything love

My focus improved a great deal, but then I paired it with other changes like meditation and yoga at the time. I noticed an increased vividness in colors when I was doing energy work most of all. One thing to consider is the lighter and better quality of your foods, the less energy you use in their digestion, which means your organs get less tired, etc. Also if you don't overcook food you end up with more nutrients, requiring less food overall, which again means less time digesting it. A good analogy is the quality of fuel or oil you put into an engine. Then you can consider things like the time of day you eat, or occasionally fasting to give your body plenty of downtime while you rest, not stuffed with food all the time, or the quality of the water you have etc. It all depends on how much effort you want to put in.

I also realised something I needed to add as I think I made it sound more difficult than it is. With enough effort or time you can relate to anyone; its just a question of whether they/you want to for longer periods. I think that's a better way of putting it than I did above.

To maximize your time. Get clear on the questions. Be willing to go with the flow. Pretty much the two concepts the thread so far have revealed in synchronicity for you. Can I say I wish him (them) love. I guess I just did :D. Convey that maybe if you would.

Interesting. Part of me wanted to say that it would be another thing dreamed. Part of me wanted to say, that infinity is every possible thing, so something outside of the dream is plausible, yes. My logical mind wants to add more concepts like a second dream side by side or encompassing the first like Russian dolls over the top of each other or layers, (wombs we are born/realised into is something I see talked about), but any explanation I could try giving to alien wouldn't be alien or unknowable. *Sometimes I think that's how the dream manifests, unexplainable spiritual concepts and/or thought gradually grounded into reality.

Yeah it seems like it lines up from reading that thread. So with the void experience, I felt a zooming out until size and dimension became meaningless, but I still had them as a point of reference. I know what zooming out is for example, I know what a void is, and I can describe it to you. With the white light experience, I can describe it somewhat. I can say the area around me turned a cloudy white, I can tell you I became the reality for a time, that you don't go anywhere to experience it. I can tell you that no sense we have of love currently is close to it, unconditional love is where you become everything, and no word needs to come before love. Its love, no conditions, no process, nothing in the way, just love. With the sorrow experience, I can tell you it was like vast ocean that scared me to touch, like I dipped my finger in it, and it was an overwhelming sensation. I realized all emotions are infinite because we are infinite. So I can get close to an explanation of all of these using references on this earth you can understand in language. if I was trying to describe alien to you, I couldn't give you a descriptor or a word from our language. At least that's how I picture it. The unknowable as they used to call it. The known, the unknown, and the unknowable.

Thanks I'll take a look. My preprogramming to alien means, something not of this earth or my experience. So something that I haven't experienced before (which would be all awakenings) but in a manner I can't comprehend or recognize either from existing experiences. So no zooming out. No white light. No emotional swell from within etc. These are things that are not alien to me. I can describe them, I have sensed them before in different ways.

Can you define Alien in layman's terms leo, to help remove any pre-programming I have in the way of better understanding it? I've done infinite void, infinite love, and touched infinite sorrow. I can set the intent to experience it at some point but it'd be easier if I knew what I was asking/intending to see

1, People don't start off friends, they start off as acquaintances. You have to put the time in to get to know them and relate to them. 2, You have to go to places where people are to meet them, they don't come to you, not unless you are the one organizing the event/night/club whatever it is where you plan to meet them. 3, Its difficult to be good friends with someone who isn't on your frequency. You can relate through the activity you are doing, talking to them but relating to them in a meaningful and fulfilling way is hard beyond that, that's why you use the activity as a social focal point. That sort of overthinking you are doing takes care of itself. Meaning things go beyond that activity or not naturally depending on how you get on.

My father is an alcoholic, he's a functioning one, only requiring a few beers a day, but he has binges too, even at 80. Smokes even more since mum had her stroke. My brother is an opiate addict, and that's his first concern all day every day. Once the opiate is taken, he considers life after that. With my father its more a case that he gets bitter and cranky without booze. It's a lack of them being able to process emotions, or even sit with them. Of course, the physical symptoms come after that. They will both swing to extremes of anger or sorrow without these crutches when their emotional guidance system is felt again. I will say people are many pieces and patterns, so your father is an addict AND X, Y, Z. That's how I deal with them, I realize sometimes its the addict pattern running things, and sometimes its another part or behavior of the family member.

Yes. I fear saying this for the backlash, but it seems the most important thing in the world and requires no qualifications or assessment beyond the basic needs of a newborn being met. I am biased coming from a poor upbringing, someone who was in a healthy household and a good community might have the opposite view I expect. License isn't the word i'd pick as a first choice, more communal involvement through groups and the school system is definitely warranted in a more enlightened and conscious future.

As for suicide, i'm right there with you time to time. For me the more I focus on myself at those points in time, the worse it is. So hopefully this focus on 500 approaches takes you completely out of your head. Focus on someone else, not yourself, when you are at your lowest (which is one reason why companionship with others is such a strength) I am also aware that healing takes focus on yourself, but somedays that's not enough.

Sorry i've not read through all of this. I used to pickup girls so here is my 2 cents. The pressure you put on yourself to get laid is part of the reason you are not getting laid. You are inventing all these cerebral things in your mind. Get off your butt, seriously, stop sitting there and go approach women. Approach 500 women. Make it a game. When you get rejected have a laugh about it, and when you get good, the girl won't feel bad either because you'll develop some charisma. Somewhere around X number you are going to start realising you are good at it, and you couldn't care less if one girl turns you down because you'll just move on to the next. This is a perfect example of what I mean. Picking up women is not a strategy chess game. It's walking up to them, saying a line or two, getting blown off most of the time, and then sometimes getting lucky. It's fairly predictable if you are an average dude or not very attractive. Rarely will you'll get a slap or an ego shot, and sometimes their friend will be the one hitting on you but that's about the only surprise you can expect. If you want a real relationship, that takes time, effort, listening, relating, and persistence. If you just want to get laid, do what I suggest, go approach 500 women. Keep count. You can approach 20 in a night easily enough. Remember when you are doing this, you are not caring what happens, you are just having an experience.

For me, Trump would say the moon was made of cheese if it got him votes, many politicians would. He just courts the ones that happen to be racists, white nationalists, and nazi's as part of his voting base. If these were instead African American, Muslim, or environmental activists you'd see him playing to them. He doesn't care. As long as they say he's great. The danger, of course, is that with those types of people funding you, and on your team, that's the type of policy or flavor of policy you'll see.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html Here are a few that stand out to me, some others seem guilt by association, or a reach, but this list seems strong enough to argue it: During a White House meeting in 2018, he referred to some undocumented immigrants as “animals” He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya In July 2019, Trump suggested that four minority Democratic congresswomen, all of whom are American citizens and three of whom were born in the United States, should “go back” to “the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.” He has retweeted white nationalists without apology. He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.” Trump has endorsed or praised politicians who have made racist statements, defended the Confederacy or associated with white supremacists, including Roy Moore in Alabama. In the 1990s, Trump took out advertisements alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business. In a 1993 radio interview, he suggested that Native Americans in Connecticut were faking their ancestry. “I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations.” Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.