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Infinity still has those conditions yes. They are still part of infinity. You can choose to go back to them and reincarnate over and over again. We pick this because we might not see why they are occurring, or we might want to perceive another aspect of infinity from that experience, or the opposite half of that experience. Even having the opposite half of the experience or a related aspect, we are still experiencing the same thing we left here doing.

All choices are made seeking love, even the most horrific ones. If someone is in enough pain, it is completely understandable. With an understanding of the need for social safeguards and properly documented attempts at therapy from different specialists and practices, It should be their choice, not mine or yours. The discussion then becomes about how to grade depression in terms of pain. I wrote it out as I had experienced it, and where I'd grade the level of suffering. An 8/10 on the upper end of suicidal spirals, but getting a person suffering in an honest place to tell you the truth can take a lot of work and trust, this is crucial in both deciding this and healing them. If they have weeks they are not suicidal, then they have weeks they are not in chronic pain. it's important to take that into consideration in these kinds of discussions.

That will happen if he's allowed to rearm and attack again, yes. This is the 8th time he's done so. If he's held where he is, or pushed back, he can't go further.

Russia has already ruled out giving up any territory it has stolen, so there is nothing to negotiate. Unless he's willing to step back from that, what point is there? Just to give Putin time to rearm and go again?

@Karmadhi First off I'm not completely against sending Troops into Ukraine tomorrow. So let's get that right. I almost went myself at the start of this war. If you think the better option is NATO vs BRICS? If not don't use the line I or we want anyone to die for me/us. It is a horrible choice to do it this way, but it stops the nukes from flying and keeps Russia from advancing further. Population numbers at this stage are not reliable for either country. At the start of this before Ukraine's and Russia's exodus, it was about 3.5 times the population, and the casualties are at least at that ratio. Ukraine, with aid, can hold indefinitely. When Ukraine is not being outshot 10 to 1 due to a lack of shells, and has the coming airpower, that casualty rate is going to flip even further on the Russians. On the failed offensive. It's interesting that so many people, giving me the Russian talking points, think one battle decides the war, but it doesn't. It didn't when Ukraine had victories, and it didn't when Russia had victories. Wars are long things, and they usually last several years up to decades. Sure, Ukraine had money in the past, they might get another 300 billion of Russia's own money, which is being fought in courts now. Economies often decide wars. There is no winner in war, but you are buying into the Russia narrative a bit too much here. Millions have fled Russia over the years leading up to this war, and their population crisis is going from bad to worse. You could also say the same for Ukraine, lots of women and children have left. Meanwhile, Russia also snatches people up from the street and then conscripts them for whatever reason it can to meet its quotas. Ukraine for a long time had more volunteers than it could arm, so most of the Russian talking points on that were merely propaganda. This is why there is still a war going on because if you believed the Russian lies, they'd have destroyed Ukraine 10 times over. Russia tends to avoid conscription from its two favorite oblasts, but for the rest, they take whoever they need, whenever they need them. The main point is, if you think Ukraine will be destroyed, Russia will be crippled as well. Russia will not recover because it was already suffering a population crisis before this war even started. Now they've got lots of crippled men, old soldiers with PTSD, and ex-convicts roaming around their cities, meanwhile, they've burned up the population they needed to, bluntly, breed and reverse their population decline. Also, they have so many partisan groups burning things down, it's just commonplace these days. Ukraine is always being rebuilt, and the EU and NATO will ensure its safety and prosperity. Russia is a broken-down shell of a nation outside of its two favorite western cities. I've watched far higher Russian losses secondhand through videos marked on the map, than were reported in Western estimates until I stopped watching it daily. The Enforcers channel marks all recorded locations where incidents happen daily on an interactive map. The old Russia has yet to do a proper mobilization line always makes me roll my eyes. What are they going to arm those people with toothpicks? They are already in a wartime economy and can barely kit out their current forces without outside help. I suppose if other countries produced even more for them? Flawed logic. What could Europe gain in this hostile climate by alienating the US? If anything we need to tighten our ties with America, because of BRICS's aggressive expansion, and their meddling in the American government. The UK has plenty of resolve when it comes to war, we just don't like fighting them, but we have a reputation for being stubborn and not giving in, that's one of the reasons we understand and appreciate Ukraine. You'll find that your underestimation of how democracies resist autocracies is exactly the reason for Putin's over-extension in Ukraine France is a powerful country and has a long history of warfare. People keep belittling the French, and it's already making them take a harder posture. I saw it when their African colonies were hit, all the Russians mocking the French, it's going to get them into an egoic state, Spain and Italy also. These are all powerful nations and economies, all capable of fighting a war. Most large nations in Europe are. I'm not sure why you think if a nation is threatened enough that it won't respond with force. I guess everyone needs to keep pushing Europe till they find out again, then they can complain about those bad Europeans with a surprised face.

We'll we've discussed the strategy to death. Hold Russia in Ukraine so they can't advance further until Putin is dead and his KGB stooges have grown old and passed on. Russia is crippling itself here, and China is buying it up. I know you don't agree with the analysis, so you can't agree with the strategy, and that's fine. Practically? 60% of Russia's USSR armor stockpiles are gone. 70-80% of its professional fighting force. Its air and naval losses are mounting, things it cannot replace. When there is a mobile Patriot battery with ammunition again, most of Russia's remaining long-range bombers firing on civilian targets are going down. Just like they did before when one was mobile with ammunition. Another bomber was recently taken out, as was another ship; it's almost weekly for Russian ships these days. Ukraine has put in for 500,000 more conscripted soldiers for the summer. 61 billion more dollars in aid buys a lot of things. It could buy a break in the Russian line because they've used much of their current manpower on repeated human wave attacks, at the minimum, it will buy holding the line against Russia. It also buys European countries not getting directly involved with boots on the ground, this was looking more likely. If this maintains the status quo, with Russia stuck in a quagmire, and Europe not in a war that would bring us to WW3, then it's the biggest relief for millions.

@Sincerity | @TheCloud Thanks. It's alright, that was just a rough week. Most weeks, I only have my issues to deal with, and that family dynamic is in the background. So I maintain a fairly level mood, 3/10 depression most days so nothing major. I realized I hadn't shared the above here for insight and reflection, so it was a good opportunity. @Sincerity I try to say that my contribution to the dynamic was not making my life more of an example to my brother, so he had a positive role model to follow. Given that he had no stable father figure, it could have meant a lot, or it could have meant nothing versus his opiate addiction, who knows because nothing else did. At the moment, I am attempting to keep my focus on my task of becoming a professional editor, and some days it's easier than others. You are right though a change of location and distance will help again, I had that once before. It doesn't fix your own life, but I've not felt part of all this for a decade or more. I guess that is a result of and a cause of the ghosting. It's easier to ghost when I feel disconnected from the environment. @TheCloud Yeah, I went through that about 12 years ago, in regards to my mother, I started that process in earnest back then. She's got limited narcissistic qualities too, but they are codependent. If you were to question her identity, she'd become a rock. She was quite fierce when I was younger and could become just as angry at times because, at a young age, I would reflect my father's behavior in arguments with him. Something she was fiercely against. These days, though, she's more of a doormat, to put it bluntly. That quality was always there, but it's enhanced, my brother is such an expert manipulator after 25 years of doing it. The whole family were manipulators, and he's better than they are now. They've been worn down to shells of themselves on this issue, where my father is an angry black void and my mother is a robot. Like Sincerity says, it's time to take a longer break than I have and move further away, I don't have much of a life here in the three rooms I live in, and though the area is beautiful, the people in the surrounding area and I are very different.

This isn't for any particular reason other than to talk for the sake of talking or healing it. It's been a rough week. Advice is welcome, skip to the end questions if you are low on time. Since my brother has been going through a rough spot. I've felt the same pull on me a lot recently, and ghosted things again, only for a week. I don't have much guilt or shame for ghosting in me anymore, so I don't need to hide from that in the pattern itself. I also have no partner that I am skipping out on that needs me, so there is no painful consequence. My brother is still an opiate addict at 40, and he started before he was an adult. My 70-year-old+ mother still finances his addiction, so he doesn't kill himself. It's about as toxic a relationship as you'd imagine. She drives him to get his drugs and gives him the money. He had been working for a good long while but recently lost his job, and his girlfriend, so she's paying for all of it now not just petrol and the extra he'd usually need to get by. My father is a broken man, he's less angry now than he was most of the time but he lives in a pit of despair (mostly self-created). As a kid, we used to argue every day and then I would get a physical punishment about once a week, hand, cane, or belt. So my abuse was never the unpredictable rage others experienced, for me it was routine, and for years I could think of it as normal. It was like being raised by an angry, narcissistic 6-year-old who did nothing but get into shouting matches over small things. Such as the TV control being in the wrong, spot, the door being open, you saying the wrong word, or leaving a cup on the kitchen sink. Just ridiculous things. I remember watching Bender in the breakfast club say this is what happens to him when you spill paint, and I thought well, no to me that happens when you leave the door open. I learned to shout back at first, and that led to the physical abuse, honestly, though the enraged daily shouting was far worse. At 6 I was repeating to him what he was saying to me, that's the earliest I remember the volatile arguments, I mean, a full-blown temper over any small detail like spelling mistakes at primary school, never a simple disagreement. That was the hardest bit of deconditioning I had to do: not taking every small thing like it was the end of the world or a threat I was about to be hit for. Why do I say this? Well, I find it good to write these things out. Especially when life is tough and maybe someone has an insight I haven't thought of. It also explains my brother's initial choice to escape into drugs and my ghosting pattern. If I am not in life, I am not affected as much, computers were always somewhere that was certain and predictable. This escapism was why I loved fantasy time as a kid and eventually computer games. I assume my brothers escapism was similar. Over the many years, I've/we've tried all the things I know in relation to my brother. Love, sympathy, acceptance, denial, anger, pretending, getting him in rehab (expensive) and even using the police. We've experienced everything you imagine from an addict also. My dad and I don't often talk, as you can imagine, but he did say something today. He was talking about suicide and the helplessness he feels, I told him he doesn't see my brother; he sees the addict, and he replied that he'd never seen my brother, only as a kid, because he'd always been on some kind of drug. I realized that he was right. At what point is the person just the person? If that's what they've been all their life, that's what they are. So I realized in my head that, at this late date, I'd still be excusing it all somehow. My brother is and will always be an addict, while my mother is alive, until she or he dies. ^ 1) How would you deal with a ghosting pattern if you found yourself in one often and were tempted to do so? 2) What would you personally do regarding the family situation, bearing in mind that it's been almost 30 years? Also, I am broke and trying to restart a career, so large expenses are out of the question. *Go easy on my mother's codependence also, it's understandable given the environment. I don't excuse her enabling, and believe me I've talked at length with her but I do understand why it happened.

That's part of it. Reality also mirrors your drives, fears, hopes, wants, and everything else I can name. All of you. If you fear a certain thing for example, in some form, that thing is coming up in your reality at some point. If you are driven to do X, then X is going to try and come up in your reality. If something makes you happy, then reality/you will try to create it. Ditto any emotion, reaction, or thought. Usually, people can't see this because it won't be an exact replica of what they think they fear, want, or are driven to do, as three simple examples. The mirror/you will try to create the core need/want/desire/fear. It's not just the shadow or unconscious parts of the mirror, as you are telling me here. People have gone so far as to define the entire mirror or reality like this. It's everything you are, not a select piece of you. We just get blindsided by the parts of ourselves we don't yet see.

If he's acting in the shadow role, let me use the other reflection to balance it out. You can also see your exact opposite in others. That's when it gets hard to stay around them too, because you see everything you don't want to be, or want to move away from. It is the end of many relationships of all kinds. People talk about reality being a mirror, but they usually miss this aspect out: It's a mirror that reflects us and all our wants, hopes, fears, and drives too. How can it not, it is us.

Letting kids find out who they are is the job of parents and schools, not telling them who to be. It's wonderful if your life is how you want it. It's not your job to tell your child who they are. The best you can do is guide them to themselves constantly, not to others, not to groups, not to trends, not to you, but to them. All life becomes finding that out, then living it, so give them a head start rather than cripple them from the beginning. @Yimpa Some days, you give me hope For whatever its worth, if you ever raise a kid, there'll be a fortunate soul.

No thought is required for a depressive state. It can come about all by itself, like any emotion. Have you never felt an emotion without thinking anything? Ex: The environment you are in can cause a depressive state. Enough failed expectations can cause a depressive state. Physical illness is often the result of self-infliction due to how bad most people's diet and lifestyle habits are. Depression can be constant, and maintaining a mild depression is a state that requires no effort at all. Go tell someone who has just gone through a horrific series of events that they are not actually suffering, and look them in the eye when you say it. The only way through is by facing that they are suffering. Now for some agreement. Getting people to be thankful for what they have and are, then to look outside of themselves at others, not themselves, is one key to influencing depression. Putting people in the now, not the past, and bringing all parts of their psyche forward is very therapeutic when done with care and attention, to the trapped traumas in the body's nervous system. You can't cure depression or not have depression in the way you describe it, it's an interwoven mix of behaviors, postures, associations, traumas and fears. You can start a lengthy process of healing, during which you'll experience a wide range of emotions, some of which will nose-dive you into great sadness or sorrow. At least you'll be conscious of it when it happens, not avoiding it, burying yourself in work, or drinking it away.

Mental Illness is Illness. There is just 'illness' to consider. This is important, as you can put her life into context. If only these people knew they'd reincarnate, possibly in the same situation they left, because issues lay unresolved. This: She recalled her psychiatrist telling her that they had tried everything, that “there’s nothing more we can do for you. It’s never gonna get any better.” Is not something a therapist would say. Suicide is also not a contagious disease, nor is death a liberation; it is a cycle. I agree that if someone is in enough physical pain for long enough, they should be able to end their life. To force a person to suffer for my own values is selfish (survival is a trait I admire). As someone who has had depression a great deal in my earlier years, I can compare it to accidents I've had in terms of pain. I've had accidents that were 10/10 - separating my bicep from my shoulder, or 7/10 for pain - broken ribs. I've been in depressive states; I would put at a 8/10 against those things, worse than living with a constant, regular broken rib sensation, but not as painful as the white-hot sensation of ripping two muscles. Imagine you live with this constant pain that sometimes is greater and sometimes less, but most of the time there is a full-bodied sensation of it, then I think you'd understand what depression, powerlessness, hopelessness, and shame feel like. There is a point where depression hits despair, and survival is no longer the main consideration, it's a very helpless state. So would I let a person who lived like I lived kill themselves? If treatments and medications don't lift depression, over several years, different specialists, with different practices attempt to treat them, and it's severe enough that they are having suicidal thoughts anyway. Yes. However, if there are weeks that a person is not suicidal, then there are weeks that a person is not in chronic pain. There has to be honest accounting, getting someone to the point of honesty is often crucial in treating them, so the two things can coincide for a better result. I would not want a person who was suffering a pain that could be managed/medicated to kill themselves no, I'd want them to get the support they need. Chronic pain is different.

I can only tell you my experience. I've been infinite bliss before. (White light environment - Divine love) I've been infinite space before (No dimensions) I've touched infinite sorrow before. (An Ocean of suffering, I didn't immerse myself in it fully) Nothing else existed in those moments. I still observed them happening, but the reality became them, and they were without end. I call them states because I can look at/feel/experience them individually. We don't have to call it states, we can call it everything that existed in that moment. *We can look at this way instead An apple is infinity if that's all which is in focus. It's not all the potential infinity could be. It's the same with anything, and emotions.

From Russia's perspective, NATO being closer to their borders was one reason they went to war yes. One out of 20. From NATO's perspective, individual countries join a treaty, for NATO it's not a direct conquering of territory or even one unified territory, like how it is framed in Russia. I cannot recall a war that was over one thing. If you give me an example, I'll do a few hours of research (when I have time) and post 20 reasons why that particular war was fought. Just don't give me an obscure, small regional conflict from 300 years ago with sparse data.

Look for people with no self-worth. That's what you are describing. Why would you want that? Hint: you don't, that's why you (god) haven't attracted someone with no agency, who just hangs on your every word. *Don't take this as a hit to your ego; it's a compliment. I would focus on working out what I wanted from a partner. Feeling it not just thinking it. Then moving in that direction. Don't put any limits on how that comes to you, when the scenario happens in real life, be present, and don't pull back from it.

I can't get to see your bias even in a direct reflection. People ignored and put down Russia. As you ignore and put down Europe, Russia is IN EUROPE. So that all fits. Before this, it was all America and China that anyone talked about. I guess, people need to go to war to be taken seriously in this era. I understand a more nuanced context of why Putin went to war and why European countries may go to war to be taken seriously. It's amazing you think this unifies Russia but somehow will break apart Europe. As if Europe can somehow exist in a vacuum untouched by world events. The entire world has gone to the right. Greece and Turkey may go to war, the Balkans region will likely go to war as it contains a Russia-aligned power, but the rest of Europe will be focused entirely on defeating Russia if BRICS keep pushing. It's also incredible; you can't see that Russia, China, Iran and BRICS are pushing their influence outward. Because that would force you to acknowledge that everyone does it. So instead, you have to have your enemy to make all your hatred toward them justified. Unless i say there is only one bad actor, NATO (America in your mind), and all Russia does is justified, you make excuses or evade realising there isn't one side, it's a dynamic most of the world engages in. Russia has for CENTURIES meddled and invaded Eastern Europe, but oh that didn't matter did it? Just like they were helpless in the current round of slaughter. This is so much hypocrisy. Oh but now Europe is using this as an excuse to rearm? But Russia didn't use it as an excuse? Putin hasn't milked this for all it's worth? Total hypocrisy on your part again. These events are cyclic so yes, all of this aggression creates the next cycle of aggression. Maybe you need to witness that more to understand it. Ex: As much as I criticize Israel's response to Iran, it was Iran who kicked off that round of violence. A few thousand teenagers didn't suddenly wake up one day out of the blue and invade Israel in an organized form. They were supplied, organized, and rallied by their leadership, and if someone tells me thousands of people pulled something like this off without their leadership getting any word at all, I'm going to burst out laughing. NATO will crumble? No Europe is rearming now. Right now. There are talks of sending troops right now. Finally, I can get you to focus on Europe, as this is a European war. It's only taken 500 posts. Let's not pretend I didn't give 20 other reasons. There is no point in this discussion if you can't agree with me, because my way of seeing this is obviously the correct one. That's not a discussion, Bobby, that's you talking to a mirror.

Expenses, pricing, or costs would need to be regulated, so the cost wasn't just passed on to the people getting the wages. @actuallyenlightened Defending the pyramid is not going to help you raise the bottom. It'll maintain the pyramid. With birthrate. The main issue is how we interact remotely, almost entirely in our heads, separating ourselves into individuals and others into labels. Interacting in groups has become awkward for many. So much is lost in this form of distance communication. Did you know that in days gone by, nobody knew who they would be attracted to? Now it's all categorized and pre-planned in our mind as an illusion, it's artificial, like the mechanism it's delivered on. Some boats are worth more than $500 million, and a few are worth more than a billion. The lifestyle may be the same, but the expenses and impact on the population's funding of these more expensive, wasteful lifestyles are not the same. You are focused on the economy, I was focused on how you measure wealth. An economy is just numbers that make rich people feel good if they're not improving people's lives. BTW, you can get half of those points I raised in poor economies.

Any emotional state is infinite. I wouldn't advise seeking a wider spiritual experience with other emotions unless you are very well grounded. I've experienced: Infinite Nothingness. Infinite bliss. Infinite sorrow. All of them were me.

This is why we are in this mess. So all the times people have told me Ukraine is smaller than Russia is that meaningless? Ukraine have got more experience than anyone in Europe in modern times. Russia's experienced officer core is long dead. Are you telling me America doesn't have experience fighting wars? What were all those wars you and others complained about then? America has fought more wars than anyone else in modern times. European countries have often been part of those wars. Most European armies are geared for fighting in Africa or small-scale wars, where they can overwhelm their opponents with expensive aircraft and long-range munitions. The British SAS have tons of experience all around the globe. A better point is Europe doesn't have a large infantry and a large tank core, and yes, you'd be right. BRICS keeps pushing Europe and NATO allies, so now we are rearming a larger land force in many countries, France, Poland, the Baltics, Turkey, and Japan. Let me ask you: I suppose we'll be the bad guys in your mind when we push back right? You'll jump through hoops to somehow support Russia/China and criticize an offensive European posture. But it's just fine when Russia or China does it. Only Putin may use ground troops, you'll say, and you'll justify it 100 different ways so your opponents are the bad guys. This is what the thinking of constantly putting down Europe, pretending they are unimportant, and only Russia or America's views matter is going to lead to. It already is happening, more nations keep calling for sending troops to Ukraine, and tbh I am starting to support it. When we have the military we might as we use it to defend ourselves if America is stepping back from that role.

Yes, the proximity of these businesses or specialists formed the closest I've seen to a hub of sorts, where indirectly or directly, the businesses supported each other in assisting others and bettering the community in intelligent ways, not just in commercial efforts. Then I realized this small place had been mentioned as one of the best places to live, and I realized I hadn't just helped individuals with their health problems, but I was part of raising the consciousness of the area. It was a great time. Usually, one person holds the field of consciousness for others. A few working together create a much larger effect. Individuals are interwoven all across society, and like all of us, they can find a place where their talents contribute. They are rarely organized into a single collective because they are and can interact with any stage of development. If you are mostly in yellow you can talk to other stages of development with no real bother, if you are in turquoise, you'll realize they are aspects of you anyway. Unless you have expectations, because then you can always disappoint yourself and get irritated (with yourself). People went their separate ways; eventually, the shop I worked in closed down due to increasing commercial rates, I went with one specialist, but it wasn't the same. The lady running the spiritual group had a crystal shop that closed down too, so that ended. I'd lost contact due to financial difficulty getting there and never knew where she went. Also, one of the organizers died suddenly.

Belarus is Russia from our perspective here. Ukraine would be Russia under their influence. Putin says jump, they jump. So with Ukraine under Putin's thumb, the border with Russia would start at Ukraine from our perspective. You said any country next to Russia is its bitch, and any country next to America is the same. What about Europe? Is their influence not there? That was why I brought up not considering Europe when you wrote it. Is Ukraine not Europe's bitch too in this analogy? Power, influence, population, land, old USSR countries back, a shorter border, gas resources, black sea ports, and gas connections. As long as he can sell it as a greater Russia, he stays in power, and as long as he can pump his ego up, he feels like he's done a good job. Putin is not a hard man to understand. Though the population crisis there is a factor to consider in places like Russia and Germany in what they will do in the future. More European countries are talking about sending troops to Ukraine, Estonia, France, the UK, etc, which is why I am happy to talk about Europe here, as it lets us understand and focus on what's going on. So again, thanks for that and the discussion. Its not the Americans who will suffer the consequences of the war, or ultimately choose to fight a European war if it happens. So it is important to focus on where it's occurring. *I should add that you are right, Russia joining NATO and/or the EU would have completely changed the course of the world, and, it was sad people could not come together when the opportunity was there.

This is nonsense Bobby, I've just quoted why above. What other numbers do you want to see? Do you want America's and Europe's numbers added together? The size of their economies, populations, and militaries combined makes Russia look like a spec on the map. This part of the reason this war happened, because Russia doesn't understand it.

I posted a pro-Israeli channel, and you jumped to the conclusion that it wasn't. They've been singing Israel's praises since this war started. This thread is better when it's just news, but that's only my opinion. There are many other threads for this kind of talk.

This is why I miss my weekly spiritual group, it was like visiting another world for a week :). When I get moving again, I want to find a group. The best I would expect is a search for a partner and friends. For eight years, I was lucky because I found Stage Yellow in what some called the best place to live in the UK. Several specialists were located in a small area with a high degree of awareness and development. Collectively, they would support each other directly and indirectly. Everybody in the local community benefited from the spillover effect. *My only advice is to look for many therapists, behavioral experts, spiritual groups, and private educators in a small location. Also looking for overall happiness levels in that location could lead you in the right direction, low crime rates, low poverty etc. There are tables you can look at for this, then narrow it down to who is helping to hold that place to that level.