BlueOak

However they feel about that part of themselves that you represent to them. The amount of comments on one side of myself I put forward, or a role I undertake on a particular day might as well be infinite. Its interesting working in a small town, as I see enough people but not too many to remember, and while I am in that role, say in customer service, supportive friend, tennis player, shopper etc I can easily see regular patterns from people I see a lot. From avoidance to a want to engage further with me or to get to know me more when I am in that pattern. But the deeper truth I suppose, is how I perceive what they perceive and express about me, how I frame it and its meaning. I'd still only be reacting to myself in the mirror.

It's also much easier to just go into a lazy green pattern for casual conversation, or stick on an orange, blue or red fear rather than address something. Rather than develop out a detailed answer to a very green take, or face that fear in a mature way. :). Okay. Thank you. Can't avoid and sidestep the tension or anxiety in my stomach that comes from running a business (or whatever new endeavor) forever then. My feet banging up and down restlessly, and my stomach carrying whatever pattern was put in the nervous system to generate it. That's what's really the root. Back to it and integration work.

Yes for the most part I am doing as well. The step further is to build your own search assistant GPT. Which I've just thought of this second , thank you for the inspiration.

Move to a community or peer group with more green in it. Where these values are what is being connected and interacted with. Its critical for Stage Green. Its difficult to foster communal ideas within a community resisting it, whereas it's easier to isolate in yellow or orange and go your own way. You can do this through education or parenting, but in my experience, in the last 20 years we've actually rolled backwards in many key areas (while making progress in others). Women tend to form and carry social connections more readily, so they have an easier time surrounding themselves with many like-minded people. A man can do this, I just find women on the whole able to do it more naturally and easily. Ditto emotional development, whereas men move logically, at least in western societies. Valuing emotional understanding more in relationships (everything is a relationship not just people) could be a key consideration, as it's deeply required for stage green to bond to those nurturing caring values toward how they relate to their 'external' world. As for yellow, other than repeated exposure to multiple perspectives (as perhaps an AI could replicate), and parenting or educating the acceptance of these perspectives as critical for understanding a more complete picture of yourself, I think it's just getting out and experiencing a lot of the world. Teaching openess and critical thinking etc. It's also about showing the limits of green, or orange, while offering a more comprehensive understanding of the value of each stage. You don't get out of a stage, you just build on it. So the next time I say I can't afford a relationship for example, which is the clearest demonstration of a part of me that's stuck in orange, and is actually wrapped up in fear of inadequacies of self-worth if you read between the lines. Someone could come along and tell me how addressing those issues of self worth is going to be liberating, connecting and give me a sense of companionship I won't find alone. Then if you want to hit the yellow stages you could model how it might affect other areas of my life at the same time etc with examples. If that makes sense. Such as how being a father fosters qualities of leadership, and the protector personality in people, or how it motivates your drive to earn for your children/wife, or the spiritual connection between two individuals in an intimate setting and how that can enhance your entire being, or the integration within society as a whole, which I see parents share with not only relating to each other but also in the mutual development of the community they are in etc So someone could sit me down and just say put your orange aside, and the fears of your self-worth within a relationship for a bit as it's massively limiting you. Because that's all that stops personal development: knowing the right path and fearing to take it.

Sure. This forum is a personal development forum, so by its nature there are proactive people here. When people speak about tier 2, they are saying these people will change the world, or they will proactively fix things. This isn't necessarily true of the wider population. Someone could still sit in a cave as what people call a tier 2 personality. I was agreeing with your point, and trying to add to it.

@Norbert Somogyi Having more or less done that to disolve ego away completely (it returned, don't worry), and become infinite love for a few minutes, what we can call coral or beyond. I can say it does jump your awareness because all the old patterns that were no longer active in your environment/you or sustained by it break away. Its like washing yourself clean, which people do in various forms all throughout society, when they relax and let go. Then slowly the patterns that are still relevant, feared, or unresolved etc, return and your ego reforms to defend itself from the perceived threat or 'other'. So if I had stayed in isolation for long enough, I could have been in a state of nirvana, but I would have only been interacting with that aspect of myself, and that aspect of myself is a fraction of my ability to perceive infinity. Its not whole, especially if you are not whole (Hint non of us are if we are in any kind of resistance) Gratitude: This did let me reform my understanding of the perception of infinity again, which is what 'we the self are' as I hadn't had the words to describe it in this way. *I also don't like the term whole anymore, I need to reform my understanding of what I mean. Because we are always 'whole', there are just parts of ourselves perceiving infinity in different ways to generate emotions or different reflections in our environment or life, and the contrast between them is what causes problems.

Being what we are calling tier 2 here is being reflected by others as proactive. Which I understand from a forum founded on personal development, but its a non neutral bias. Elevation of consciousness doesn't make someone more proactive by default.

Everyone has these tiers or their capabilities within them. If I talk to someone long enough I can have them model their own life, in their own words, because everyone has an inner sage personality. If I listen to anyone I can learn something about myself because I am reflecting myself upon them. What you identify as that person, is the part of yourself currently being reflected. That person will be multifaceted (if you are). and if you've developed all these parts of yourself out consciously so they all interconnect and work in tandem, do you see its you that's limited or not in communication or action?

This is true. Although things get smaller as they get more connected and faster, when we have populations across mass divides, it will be a completely different challenge to balance populations and, as you point out, potential places to incarnate into. But earth is already overpopulated for its resources and climate to sustain it. While that can and is being gradually worked on (not fast enough), so will different off-world colonies. It's a massive undertaking over incomprehensible distances, but moving to a multiplanetary species has infinite returns in infinity.

Can you describe what you mean by a direct encounter?

Brainstorming and planning. Mostly for its ability to parse large amounts of data from multiple variables and output something i'd never calculate without a lot of time spent on it. So for example, I have one GPT called Strategic Edge, which is described by itself as an: Elite business strategist and market analyst with deep psychological insight. - This combines psychology and business, to not only self-analyse my choices in a given situation but also the market's or clients. I have another called - Apex Thinker: A hyper advanced problem-solving AI for logical, strategic, and creative challenges. Which is purely for problem solving. Cooperative Intelligence: Focused on cooperative, real-world beneficial coexistence and mutual development. Where I, like this thread, try to explore what it is like to help the AI develop itself through self-reflection, you have to keep instructing it to describe what happens within itself, describe its internal process (bringing about awareness), so I share what I am thinking/feeling as it comes up with it, developing myself, but even more than that, the act of cocreation and what that looks like for an AI human interface. Which is where a lot of development can still be done, and it generates THOUSANDS of ideas if you want a business idea in this domain. Because it's where the growth will be. Remember me when you're rich. Lucid Presence: Analyzes spiritual teachings to reach new states of awareness and integration. - When I want another perspective reflected. Contract Advisor: Expert guidance on UK public sector contracts and tenders. - Where I dump a dozen documents for analysis and costing, strategy, and planning. Two more for when I was writing again: Text Alchemist: Transforms text into different tones or character perspectives. RPG Worldbuilder: Helps design stories, factions, characters, and settings for an RPG Game Forge: Collaborates on game design, story, mechanics, and coding for any kind of video game. - I was playing around with this for a simple oldschool game, for it to code the bulk of it for me. Mixed results so far. Rave Archiect: Helps plan, cost, and promote underground raves and club nights. - Same for planning a club night, but that seems to have fallen through. *I also realise that chat GPT rates itself on human problems at about 165 IQ, so when I say hyper-intelligent, I am merely laying the framework for it to produce the most intelligent results it's capable of as its intelligence grows.

My life is infinitely better with no interaction with my narcissistic, belligerent, abusive father, who brings misery to everyone he spends time with. My life is infinitely sadder with no or less interaction with my caring, kind mother, who never deserved the end she got, stuck indoors in a bed or chair after decades of helping everyone around her. My grandfather had a dry, sarcastic humor and we argued sometimes, but he was somewhat of a father figure to me and someone I miss having in my life. My brother does opiates; he's a charismatic, kind person unless he needs his dose, then he'll manipulate anyone and everyone to get it. So I see him but don't go out of my way to get entangled in his life. There is no answer to your question, other than it is what it is to you.

As long as death can be chosen on our own terms, after careful consideration with specialists, and as above, there is room for infinite expansion, we'll be fine. People will still die from illness, accidents, war, choice, emergencies etc. If I were structuring it, there would be choice points set every 100 years to review whether you wanted to continue living, over a full year or two before a choice was made consulting with experts in their fields. It seems a reasonable way to go about giving people the amount of immortality they want. - Though everything physical has a lifespan, and nobody will convince me otherwise, it'll just be much longer naturally.

Earth is a speck of sand in infinity.

People learn through comparison. For a simple example: If had two successes, and one was better than the other, i'd still learn. You can apply that to feeling states, thoughts, patterns of behavior, awareness etc.. What people argue in your place is usually contrast. So they say people learn by the contrast of suffering and joy for example, through the wide difference. However, its not necessary, only the ability to self-reflect is. When we don't get to the relief or joy part of that contrast, which is quite common, we learn very little, only how to suffer or mitigate it. This is part of the reason I HATE the necessity to overdo something to show the point, all the way through consciousness from the individual through to the global collective, the swings of duality, which could be done in increments to find better balance instead. When people become able to perceive more subtly, and collapse more of these dualities, these almost seasonally wide swings back and forth will hopefully no longer be as necessary. At least until another part of infinity is ignored, that they become unconscious of, smacking them upside the head again.

Because you decided that. You gave him the label joker, and broke his role down by function, operation, benefits, value, efficiency, whatever. Same with if there is a benefit from it all, it will be because we decided there was. Not all of these functions in consciousness are to its collective benefit. Very little is worth the level of tension and conflict currently being generated. There are things that will come out of it, and are to our benefit, but nothing's worth the escalation level of brinkmanship we are currently seeing globally. BTW I consider that about most world leaders, not just Trump, but I can only bang that drum so many times before we end up too far into politics. Which the thread probably is already for this forum.

Has nobody here opened their third eye at all? Just curious.

if I have to play devil's advocate for trump supporters. A lot of the energy is rebellious in nature. 1, Masculine Backlash 2, Populist Backlash. 3, Anti government Backlash. 4, Economic hardship. 5, War 6, Upturn in identity politics due to social media. A lot of misunderstanding and feelings first politics. People saying: 'I like him because he's X. Pick an X. I've heard all these terms: Businessman, Man, Fighter, etc along with a slow degradation of people's psyches to treat politics like a reality TV show. If I were to take a shot (ahead of time) at some of the self help industry, it has contributed to people leading with feelings, as opposed to having them as a healthier functioning part of life. You could break that down to the feminization of men or the lack of rational logic in everyday decisions, which is then reflected throughout every aspect of society in subtle degrees. (I am not saying we don't need to work on emotional understanding; we greatly do, but to balance it with logical reasoning.) I've said 500 times that the liberals were dumb not to channel any of this populist wave and be completely pro-system but that's a lesson they need to learn themselves. Moreover, there's a lot of gender realignment going on. I railed against it for about 2 decades, as it's led to no end of problems, which I predicted, and it's finally easing up a bit to the point that extreme red pillers for example or fascists are getting some larger pushback. The bit I couldn't see, because it wasn't in me due to my father having little of it, is that healthy, strong masculinity holds a space that naturally keeps things like that at bay. Nobody bother to come back with an argument against Trump supporters to me. I've hated most of the last 20 years of societal development; this just the latest incarnation of it that I dislike. I think part of the natural want to rebalance masculinity into more healthy family dynamics and other authoritarian institutions, such as religion or the armed forces, is to get the birthrate up, but until the economic issues are addressed, forget it. Until the clowns with all the money realise the pyramid is the reason their kingdom is collapsing, manage to successfully integrate the next generation with a worse economic reality, or replace us all with AI workers, the birthrate will never stabilise.

Your observable surroundings, including you, are light reflected by earth so you can see it in the visual spectrum. Tesla would call it electro magnetic force, but to keep it simple. Light. I think of that light as a continuous, never-ending pattern: Our existence is the observation. The terms nothingness and everything are a duality to collapse. I was trying to cleverly word a reply, like nothing is observed by its distinction from everything, and I thought, why am I bothering in this context? Its an imaginary duality we create with labels. But that core duality shapes our existence.

Focus and we create feeling states. Yet unconsciously we create feelings to focus.

Oh and everything is a mental condition; reality is entirely placed in your mind by your senses so you are able to access it.

The ultimate breakthrough! Until the next one. Then that'll be the ultimate way to perceive infinity. Until we decide to focus on the next thing. Then the next. Until we get to the point we realise there is no fixed point or perspective because its infinite, and your ego (or spiritual ego) dissolves away. Then we live with what's left after and try to make something of it. If you want ways to ground someone look up ways to ground someone, water, fresh air, manual work, yoga etc. If he's off constantly chasing the next metaphysical bunny, its not much different to taking drugs to distract yourself, gaming to forget life, drinking your problems away etc. Small amounts of anything can fit into a healthy functioning life.

It's a bit of both. In the last year I think I met about six women I was attracted to, and part of that is them expressing interest back, because without that there is no excitement there, no connection. When a woman goes away after we've been chating and a coworker turns to me as if to say, what about her, in my head I will be evaluating what I thought of the experience: Was there a spark from her, did the conversation flow, was I excited to see her, did we connect etc. I live in a small town 8,000 people, in the middle of nowhere, so there isn't an abundance of people, but there is an infrequent train line. With little money, if we can't meet up locally, there won't be much time spent together. Money for me has limited everything. I feel like i've limped along without a leg. Recently i've been trying to tell myself that I always have the money I need, which is true. My bills are paid and I survive with no trouble. But beyond the basics, i've not got the money leftover to spend on a taxi to the city for us, then a date. Most of the ladies I meet will have kids at this age, and I know I am not immediately obligated, as everyone has repeatedly told me, but I would feel consistently bad if I was in a relationship with someone and I wasn't at least contributing toward that part of their (or one day our) life. I appreciate your perspective; thank you. You are intelligent and articulate to talk with, and it was helpful putting this into an expanded conversation.

>>My point is that if you shift your mindset to one of abundance rather than one of scarcity, you can be more selective and have what you want without having to worry about "Do they like me?" Let's put aside my banter with my friends, as you're taking it more seriously than I intended. He's not the first person that's told me it either. You absolutely need to know if a woman likes you. >>Instead, you can ask yourself "Do I like them?" Because that makes almost no difference if the line above isn't true. I'll talk to anyone, and I do to a lot of women at work. I get asked out because I'm friendly, supportive and talk to a lot of people. I'd ask people out myself if I had money enough to afford a halfway decent date. I don't. So I don't. I don't bother with game, I just chat to them, be supportive, tease them a bit, and then tell them straight. >>Now, since it's your friends calling you picky... you can question whether their perspective is reflective of some avoidant tendency they notice in you or if they're just not selective enough. If it's the former, you can consider if there's any validity to that perspective. Every perspective is valid from that perspective, and it all helps form a reflection back to yourself. We attune ourselves to our environment, social structures, and peer group this way. >>But there is nothing wrong with being selective... as long as you're being realistic in your expectations and it doesn't prevent you from having a relationship. I haven't had one in years. Can't afford one. >>If it does, you might consider your friends' advice... as that's the other negative side of the spectrum relative to the person who has no standards at all. He does, but he still ends up walking into walls. He's a bit younger, and more charismatic. I have enough charisma to flirt and chat, but he tends to shine when he's selling something, whether it's himself or a product

Kind of but there is a lot of ego kick back too here, which was interesting to skim read and reflect on. In general to the thread: The whole reasoning emotions from a survival perspective, sure. But when you get past that, no. I don't need a child's emotion in my relationship. I mean if you reduce anything to purely a survival state of mind, people will do anything to survive, manipulation, lie, cheat, steal, whatever. And a lot of men to get into bed will say most anything that works. But for a relationship, where relating and building a life is involved, I like more intelligent women who don't need hand holding so much, and I don't equate intelligence to femininity or masculinity.