BlueOak

That is your condition. When you don't have it anymore you'll be able to love a rock, the sky, these words, the person you hate, the stars, everything you are.

This would be conditional and limited to that condition, or whatever condition was put on it. Unconditional love requires nothing at all but love. No action, reaction, it doesn't require sex, or merging, or anything. If anyone wants to try it, start at the beginning of this thread try to love every word said, and every tone, and every poster, when you get one you find hard, you'll see your own conditions staring you in the face.

Some people say a shared orgasm or a spiritual bliss experience are the highest states there are. (I'm not sure what high means but) Pick up your kid, your partner, or the person you love the most in the world, and tell them how you feel about them while you hold each other. Now magnify that to the entire room, the world, your emotions, everything you are, were, have ever been or ever will be. Every animal, every surface, every thought, every action/reaction <----- If you can hold this state for long enough, opinions vary some say weeks, some say less or more, you will experience infinite, unconditional love because you will have no condition to experience it. I don't want to bias it more than that, only to say that a physical orgasm doesn't come close. Any Guru who hasn't had an infinite love awakening can't put this into perspective for you, but hopefully, I got a bit closer.

I've never had that question or any training or advice on it. So my go-to answer would be to ask a nutritionist with a background in healthcare, or your equivalent of GP (General Practioner) a regular doctor you see, who has a fair understanding of diet. You would need both specialties covered to adequately answer the question.

Welcome, and take no expectations other than the chat, other than the experience of talking to several women. No expectations means much less anxiety because whatever happens happens. You are getting closer to not being depressed. Rage or anger is a step above depression as an example. What you are showing is some courage or willingness above, what I was hinting at is acceptance of whatever result happens, which as you can see is a LONG way from fear, shame, or guilt. If you can hit acceptance or neutrality of the result, life is a lot easier almost across the board in all experiences. There are slightly different versions of this, and you will feel different ways in regarding different things, different days, patterns, and beliefs you have or are currently experiencing. Generally, though anger gives fuel to create action, it moves upward towards a result. Anger is a lot of energy moving and if its focused on the goal it can be very helpful to achieve it. So although you want to be joyful, moving through anger is a good start. Question: What is a negative emotion to you? Which ones are you labeling as bad? Did someone tell you X is wrong, and so now you suppress X thus never moving through it or allowing it to naturally conclude? When an animal has an emotion they roar or bark, they shake their body, you see it expressed in them. When humans get them, they bottle them up, keep them in the nervous system, and unconsciously either suppress them cutting part of themselves off, avoid what causes them, or keep reliving them, unwittingly. Oh and if you ever want a short cut, its always self love or self = everything love

My focus improved a great deal, but then I paired it with other changes like meditation and yoga at the time. I noticed an increased vividness in colors when I was doing energy work most of all. One thing to consider is the lighter and better quality of your foods, the less energy you use in their digestion, which means your organs get less tired, etc. Also if you don't overcook food you end up with more nutrients, requiring less food overall, which again means less time digesting it. A good analogy is the quality of fuel or oil you put into an engine. Then you can consider things like the time of day you eat, or occasionally fasting to give your body plenty of downtime while you rest, not stuffed with food all the time, or the quality of the water you have etc. It all depends on how much effort you want to put in.

I also realised something I needed to add as I think I made it sound more difficult than it is. With enough effort or time you can relate to anyone; its just a question of whether they/you want to for longer periods. I think that's a better way of putting it than I did above.

To maximize your time. Get clear on the questions. Be willing to go with the flow. Pretty much the two concepts the thread so far have revealed in synchronicity for you. Can I say I wish him (them) love. I guess I just did :D. Convey that maybe if you would.

Interesting. Part of me wanted to say that it would be another thing dreamed. Part of me wanted to say, that infinity is every possible thing, so something outside of the dream is plausible, yes. My logical mind wants to add more concepts like a second dream side by side or encompassing the first like Russian dolls over the top of each other or layers, (wombs we are born/realised into is something I see talked about), but any explanation I could try giving to alien wouldn't be alien or unknowable. *Sometimes I think that's how the dream manifests, unexplainable spiritual concepts and/or thought gradually grounded into reality.

Yeah it seems like it lines up from reading that thread. So with the void experience, I felt a zooming out until size and dimension became meaningless, but I still had them as a point of reference. I know what zooming out is for example, I know what a void is, and I can describe it to you. With the white light experience, I can describe it somewhat. I can say the area around me turned a cloudy white, I can tell you I became the reality for a time, that you don't go anywhere to experience it. I can tell you that no sense we have of love currently is close to it, unconditional love is where you become everything, and no word needs to come before love. Its love, no conditions, no process, nothing in the way, just love. With the sorrow experience, I can tell you it was like vast ocean that scared me to touch, like I dipped my finger in it, and it was an overwhelming sensation. I realized all emotions are infinite because we are infinite. So I can get close to an explanation of all of these using references on this earth you can understand in language. if I was trying to describe alien to you, I couldn't give you a descriptor or a word from our language. At least that's how I picture it. The unknowable as they used to call it. The known, the unknown, and the unknowable.

Thanks I'll take a look. My preprogramming to alien means, something not of this earth or my experience. So something that I haven't experienced before (which would be all awakenings) but in a manner I can't comprehend or recognize either from existing experiences. So no zooming out. No white light. No emotional swell from within etc. These are things that are not alien to me. I can describe them, I have sensed them before in different ways.

Can you define Alien in layman's terms leo, to help remove any pre-programming I have in the way of better understanding it? I've done infinite void, infinite love, and touched infinite sorrow. I can set the intent to experience it at some point but it'd be easier if I knew what I was asking/intending to see

1, People don't start off friends, they start off as acquaintances. You have to put the time in to get to know them and relate to them. 2, You have to go to places where people are to meet them, they don't come to you, not unless you are the one organizing the event/night/club whatever it is where you plan to meet them. 3, Its difficult to be good friends with someone who isn't on your frequency. You can relate through the activity you are doing, talking to them but relating to them in a meaningful and fulfilling way is hard beyond that, that's why you use the activity as a social focal point. That sort of overthinking you are doing takes care of itself. Meaning things go beyond that activity or not naturally depending on how you get on.

My father is an alcoholic, he's a functioning one, only requiring a few beers a day, but he has binges too, even at 80. Smokes even more since mum had her stroke. My brother is an opiate addict, and that's his first concern all day every day. Once the opiate is taken, he considers life after that. With my father its more a case that he gets bitter and cranky without booze. It's a lack of them being able to process emotions, or even sit with them. Of course, the physical symptoms come after that. They will both swing to extremes of anger or sorrow without these crutches when their emotional guidance system is felt again. I will say people are many pieces and patterns, so your father is an addict AND X, Y, Z. That's how I deal with them, I realize sometimes its the addict pattern running things, and sometimes its another part or behavior of the family member.

Yes. I fear saying this for the backlash, but it seems the most important thing in the world and requires no qualifications or assessment beyond the basic needs of a newborn being met. I am biased coming from a poor upbringing, someone who was in a healthy household and a good community might have the opposite view I expect. License isn't the word i'd pick as a first choice, more communal involvement through groups and the school system is definitely warranted in a more enlightened and conscious future.

As for suicide, i'm right there with you time to time. For me the more I focus on myself at those points in time, the worse it is. So hopefully this focus on 500 approaches takes you completely out of your head. Focus on someone else, not yourself, when you are at your lowest (which is one reason why companionship with others is such a strength) I am also aware that healing takes focus on yourself, but somedays that's not enough.

Sorry i've not read through all of this. I used to pickup girls so here is my 2 cents. The pressure you put on yourself to get laid is part of the reason you are not getting laid. You are inventing all these cerebral things in your mind. Get off your butt, seriously, stop sitting there and go approach women. Approach 500 women. Make it a game. When you get rejected have a laugh about it, and when you get good, the girl won't feel bad either because you'll develop some charisma. Somewhere around X number you are going to start realising you are good at it, and you couldn't care less if one girl turns you down because you'll just move on to the next. This is a perfect example of what I mean. Picking up women is not a strategy chess game. It's walking up to them, saying a line or two, getting blown off most of the time, and then sometimes getting lucky. It's fairly predictable if you are an average dude or not very attractive. Rarely will you'll get a slap or an ego shot, and sometimes their friend will be the one hitting on you but that's about the only surprise you can expect. If you want a real relationship, that takes time, effort, listening, relating, and persistence. If you just want to get laid, do what I suggest, go approach 500 women. Keep count. You can approach 20 in a night easily enough. Remember when you are doing this, you are not caring what happens, you are just having an experience.

For me, Trump would say the moon was made of cheese if it got him votes, many politicians would. He just courts the ones that happen to be racists, white nationalists, and nazi's as part of his voting base. If these were instead African American, Muslim, or environmental activists you'd see him playing to them. He doesn't care. As long as they say he's great. The danger, of course, is that with those types of people funding you, and on your team, that's the type of policy or flavor of policy you'll see.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html Here are a few that stand out to me, some others seem guilt by association, or a reach, but this list seems strong enough to argue it: During a White House meeting in 2018, he referred to some undocumented immigrants as “animals” He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya In July 2019, Trump suggested that four minority Democratic congresswomen, all of whom are American citizens and three of whom were born in the United States, should “go back” to “the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.” He has retweeted white nationalists without apology. He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.” Trump has endorsed or praised politicians who have made racist statements, defended the Confederacy or associated with white supremacists, including Roy Moore in Alabama. In the 1990s, Trump took out advertisements alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business. In a 1993 radio interview, he suggested that Native Americans in Connecticut were faking their ancestry. “I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations.” Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.

At first, I replied as if you were at work not school. School is still your best bet, but not everyone makes good friends at school. Rather than worry what's wrong with you for too long, meet more people and make an effort. These sorts of social skills come with practice. I live in an isolated village so I know the difficulty. There are trains and buses. Maybe get a part-time job, or a cheap method of transport. Even if you are distant, you could do an electric bike for transportation or a regular bicycle, alternatively, i'm not sure what the laws are around you for cheap mopeds. I joined a writing group, for example, and met people. You have to get out and do it. These experiences don't come to you. You have to make the effort to approach situations, hobbies, groups of people, and places to hang out. Right now it sucks because many of the easy hangouts are dying off. When I was growing up there were more places you could go. Places still exist but you have to google for groups in your area, or just hobbies, activities, or clubs you've thought about or that complement your interests. Even if you really don't want to try anything new, and are, for example anti-social, you still do things with your time, and those are things others will want to do too. For example, at LAN parties, I used to love them, and they were alongside computer nerds just like me. I used to be popular at school for being one of the guys that got people together interested in going out. I even turned that skill into a small business opportunity by organizing a club night with a DJ and bouncer. It just took asking people, many young people like to do things so it wasn't hard, I even got them selling the tickets for a %, free drinks, or a free ticket.

Friends come about by spending time with groups of people and developing relationships. Then, after hours (across different days) of getting to know someone, invite them out to something they or you enjoy and see if there is a friendship beyond the activity you both attend. This is easiest done when relating by doing an activity, or hobby. Pick two and attend them weekly. You may just make acquaintances, or you may make friendships. If after several weeks you've not made a friend, pick different activities or hobbies in your area. At worst you've expanded the experiences you've had in life and tried different things. Friendships happen to you because of many hours of shared experience, so that's what you need to do. This can happen through work, school, hobbies, or sometimes if you are fortunate enough, areas in your locality that the locals visit often.

That was pretty good. Next: You are not anywhere, so you cannot be separated or divided. Every moment/thing/pattern is unique aka infinity. You are realising here: I’m aware ~of~ thoughts so separate from them, but simultaneously it can seem I am in the thought. This is true of all things. You are in them and out of them, watching them and experiencing them. There is no difference. These are just labels you are giving things to make logical sense of it in a reality you view as a sequence of events, or experiences. All that exists is the experience happening, that's it. There is no you. No timeline. No separation. No distance.

Yes, an equalization of the world to bring shared values or understanding, a way to increase birthrates and stop people from dying or suffering alone, and a step towards stage green community outcomes. I am sometimes envious of the larger families from these regions. There are many positives aside from just economic, people are social beings and many of the issues we see are down to people not having healthy family structures, friends and a supportive local community. Its shells of being, internal, body, room, home, local community, wider community etc.—all functioning as you and what you experience. So I understand this, I hate this shift that's been going on all my life personally but I understand it. I like my privacy and I haven't dated in a long time, nor do I wish to. So it's just one more pressure I resist, but I can see the necessity of it for the wider world. It does bring a lot of negatives too, a lot more relationship dynamics for example, where we see constant conflicts being brought into the spotlight and people having to address them, and a loss of individual liberties and freedoms. It often feels like we are being squeezed, in work, at home, in relationships etc. Interesting topic overall.

Here we go. It had the completely opposite take to what I am used to.

I watched an interesting video recently that made the complete counterargument, I had a slight amount of resistance to its topic, so I continued watching. Living alone is not going to be normal in the years going forward. Living with a family, your family, or friends will be the norm, and those on their own will be on very good income. I can see where he's drawn this conclusion, given the cost of living, and whether you think things will improve or get worse. If I can find the video I'll post it, no luck yet.