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I disagree entirely that perspective arguments are not relevant to the central point, but I respect your request.
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Although it is a more helpful focus, I am showing you the meta level of the problem. When you say A B C to me here I then interpret that to mean something. You then interpret that to mean something else. We then still have a disconnect. If you instead look at how A, B or C relate to each other, although we might interpret it differently, you'll be able to more directly achieve an outcome or understand what happens when someone is responding to you more directly. Especially as I, for example, have what you might consider left/right and spiritual tendencies. (Left Right is such a flawed axis when looked at in a global context that its often as confusing as it is helpful).
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I agree but the problem with that is, you'll still only have your own perception of what their identity means to them, even if they tell you it in their own words, then there is still a disconnect through interpretation. The only real approach is to see how the two identities relate to each other. That's the only thing you'll have first hand understanding of.
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Everything relies on how you perceive the world. There is no other method of forming a framework within which to act, other than your senses and pattern recognition. Meditation, dreamwork, your inner voice, and accessing the subconscious or greater mind can assist. Trouble is with most of that, its usually a metaphor that most people take literally or never fully understand, but then the journey there is usually the point. You are correct that someone's identity shapes their responses. If you remove the identity, life is simple (and quite beautiful) but its also a catalyst for being at the mercy of everyone else actively engaging in life.
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Dictators do not like authority outside of their own controlling anything
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I do feel in many ways the EU is surrounded by enemies and is left with no choice but to fight or diminish. Its a dangerous situation for some of the best-trained, technologically capable, and, quite frankly, experienced countries at fighting war on the planet. Influence is under attack in Africa, Russia is pressing from the east, and now in the far west America is ready to attack. The EU countries need nuclear profileration and they need to rearm quicker than they are doing.
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I'd just remove America from the countries that can ever receive it and blacklist them. Then we'll see where the power of the award lies. If that becomes impossible, it's time for a new award structure.
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BlueOak replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Its a wonderful experience. Infinite—Insert whatever here. Is infinity. Your identity is what you take from that and decide it is. -
BlueOak replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Earth is largely about the continuation and reproduction of life. -
BlueOak replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You perceive things in a way you can or want to understand them. -
Alright i'll rephrase. Its a poor way to order anything. People have thousands of years fighting over borders, disparity of strengths and influence, no central authority, a dwindling climate, and overreach on resources like water. Just saying multipolar, to me and I am sorry to the people fighting or arguing for this, sounds extremely naive. Its just chaos waiting to happen. - And is indeed chaos happening before our eyes. Rules do not imply that countries are subordinate to rules alone. They are subordinate to the authority enforcing them. People don't follow rules they don't like just because they exist; they follow them because if they do not, they are made to. Countries are arming themselves as other countries are threatening their sovereignty, borders, treaties, established institutions, populations, trade and national interests. With no authority to keep countries in check, people do whatever they like. More specifically North Korea have been given Nukes so they are capable of threatening South Korea and Japan should war break out, ditto Belarus threatening Poland and Eastern Europe.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
All true but if they were trained how to interact with the public and do their job more thoroughly, this would be less likely to happen. I understand you will argue this is part of the design, but others may counter, so this data is useful. Ice apparently gets 47 days of training; if we charitably say they get 8 hours each day, that's 376 hours, which is 11 times less than the best-trained forces around the globe and half as long as regular American police, who are woefully undertrained, Regular police get almost 7 times less hours than India for example. Someone can argue American training is more effective, but I doubt by a factor of ten. -
Yes. Which is paramount to anything else. Order and structure stops the planet becoming a wasteland; without it people do whatever they can get away with. At present countries don't have nukes because America stops them. BRICS have just given up stopping people and are now arming them, Belarus and North Korea for example. If this trend continues, we will have nuclear proliferation all over the world, and a considerably higher likelihood of ending the planet in the current multipolar no-order dynamic.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This is factually incorrect. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-training-requirements-by-country -
@Elliott Liberal democracies are as far away from nazi's as you can get. There a small growing nationalist sentiment, thanks to Russia, and the USA descending into fascism. But even national flags are often taken down, something I don't agree with, due to the large MIGRANT population in these countries. You don't even have a grasp on what you are talking about. Open borders woo woo. How to inspire nationalism, by putting in ten times net migrants than we were doing in decades gone by, so communities destabalise and order breaks down. Its why Russia sends so many over the border and Poland is forced to shoot them. Simply listing names does nothing. You've given me no context for how the people in these countries feel, or does that not matter? No indication of the quality of their lives. Would you like me to list the many countries the US has 'liberated', or the people your country has killed so it can get a bit more oil or trade revenue? GD its like a return to team America world police, only now its the Team America: Steal All We Can Get Solo Mafia version. I never thought you were this far gone. And by that I mean the 'opposition' to maga.
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Oh okay, you are serious. We don't need your liberation. We don't need American fascism designed to hide its own. Fascists always claim the other side is doing what they do to justify their own actions. Its what children do, and they haven't grown out of it. Meanwhile, you are threatening canada, mexico and greenland and somehow claiming to be justified. The UK has come to their senses and helped attack a country? What the hell are you trying to argue here? Yay, one step closer to WW3? This is something to celebrate? This is delusional warmongering. Most of these countries or regions you describe are perfectly happy as they are, certainly the UK backed ones, they are often given referendums when asked, security guarantees, and get to enjoy a better quality of life. Yes, free Greenland, a relatively happy population, into American guns. A European Army and nuclear proliferation in Europe can't come quickly enough. If this is the world we are up against. Americans and other authoritarian powers seizing whatever they like, and calling it liberation with a straight face, I hate fascists generally, but American ones take the cake, as they claim to be better than they are or doing it for someone else's good. At least the Russian ones just shoot you.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Training. America sucks at training its law enforcement. Discipline isn't born into people, and little of exists in families these days. It needs a strong command structure and those in positions of authority to follow the rules they are enforcing, or else chaos, corruption, and suffering result. Equivocating a regular random person and a man or woman supposed to be in a position of authority is a false equivalency. It doesn't make sense. -
@Elliott I'm guessing you are trolling again. Though sometimes its hard to tell, America has gone so nuts these last few years.
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It stopped the planet turning into a wasteland. More countries have nukes. More will get them if America backstab Europe.
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Plenty of times. Its not much better when you buy a genuine course or take a genuine step towards a goal and it ends up in the dirt either though. It's just life mate. You got an education how to spot frauds. It'd have been nice if you were conned or scammed earlier on in life to avoid it now, but either way you learned a hard lesson and either way it feels the same way at 5, 15, or 55. Like crap.
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I don't think Leo sells courses on how to sell courses. As that's what the poster is implying he bought elsewhere, unless I am reading it wrong.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
From your subsequent post I am going to infer you think Iran will not be an authoritarian capitalist state, X amount of years from now when the rebel tendencies die down and the theocracy is reformed into the control of bankers, rich families, dictators and oligarchs. Its the global pattern, specifically Iranian society at its roots and structure is not a girl burning pictures. This looks good for the TV for us in the west, and it caught your eye, maybe its even good to inspire a fire. Its not going to be what the country is made out of going forward. That'll be the usual economic apparatus and governing instutions that always exist, and few of them are going to be what you consider stage green. Much as i'd like to believe people when they tell me see enough of one side of a coin (fascism) and you get the other, that's not what we are experiencing right now. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Yeah. Soft BRICS target and unaligned with the current system of world governance: if you are not capitalist-fascist leaning you are under pressure. But the country is done for, unless they start getting water in, or a leader who is able to start bring water in/greening areas from the coast or a major river. -
Yes.
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Some of this is a propaganda fantasy. Germany is not an ally of Russia. Natural or otherwise, they have had significantly more conflicts than they have partnerships. Every Russia supporter tells me the EU will fall, yet here it sits, because it's a Russia fantasy. Its not a collectivist thing that can fall in one go; its many countries that all need to be addressed separately. 'The West' is some collective invention that in reality doesn't exist like collectivists or authoritarians think. So they cannot adequately even conceptualize their opponents. Russia needs it to break apart to keep pushing westward. Maybe one day, but not because Russia floods it with migrants or threatens it collectively every few months (the last part there is idiotic if that's the goal, they've done nothing but harden europe) If the EU goes full rightwing, Russia gets nuked if it pushes further. That pattern doesn't end as you want it to. Big changes are coming possibly, but it'll be a large war and tens of millions dead with this kind of prevalent attitude. If the Baltics flare up in the next ten years, it won't be 2 million Russian casualties; it'll be 10, if they go into Poland, it'll be 20 or more. Nothing unites populations quicker than aggressive countries pushing into their neighbors and causing crises's on their doorstep. The US and EU will pull apart because America's devolving into a fascist state. Yes. Iran will partially collapse because it has no water, and its one of the last countries that operate differently to the current world order's template. It doesn't really matter who governs it, it'll be unstable forever unless it gets a very strong partnership to supply water into a desert that's only ever going to get hotter. They need a visionary leader like in Saudi Arabia or Africa where they are greening the desert. Too few want to take climate change with the seriousness it requires, so these areas are done for. Turkey will push downward and eastward, yes. I don't see anything in their way. Unless they start poking greece again. Russia's economy will continue to collapse. The country if it continues, will see great loss, and more so if some of what you predict comes to pass. They are the front line in China's power grab westward. But then again, if fascism rises in the UK i'll be out fighting it, and I won't be alone. I don't see that myself in this country without a change in pattern. China if it continues, will be at war with Japan, the Philippines, etc. It won't end as they want it to. But yes it'll be a big power, I don't see that changing.
