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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
We are not close to world peace this year as was discussed above. This year is going to be a hellish year with a lot of violence. There are so many things occurring and so much instability; this is an easy prediction to make. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Yes. Everything has an infinite amount of possible perspectives on it. You asked what they are rebelling against. What I listed is a general overview. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
BTW I support controlled and reduced immigration in the UK, taking into account emigration its at 500,000 net it used to be 50,000 net, imho it needs to be below 100,000 to maintain a stable society. In fact I should investigate what figures would maintain stability in more detail. @Salvijus -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Suppression and Heavy Handedness. Police State. Arresting of political opponents and opposing voters. Aggression toward neighboring states. Censorship. Authoritarian power grab. Primarily, the paramilitary forces that were used against the population. This is the primary and intended flashpoint of the current regime in America to cause fear and violence. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
So i've watched the videos in more detail fom multiple views. The woman tried to drive off. The Ice agent guy tried to stand in her way and opened fire. This is textbook stupidity from any law enforcement perspective. Putting himself in the path of the vehicle is incredibly dangerous. Civilians do stupid things all the time, from fear, mental issues, aggression etc, and putting yourself in positions to be in the way of that stupidity is incompetence; in this case, as it cost a life, gross incompetence. But this is paramilitary, designed to antagonise the population, so its working as intended. Its killing citizens that dare to resist fascism. Its one of the screws to make the country more like Russia or China. There are many of them in play, but this is one of the overt things that happen. Dissenters are shot, opposition politicians are arrested, fear is weaponized, etc. America is a far right country moving into a dictatorship. It will be overturned by revolution or not at all. The Democrats don't have the spine or will to do so, the likely pattern is gradual social engineering of the population to be further authoritarian and right-wing and suppression of democracy. -
BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This is what happens during civil unrest and rebellion. A lot more people are going to die if the fascists keep pushing. Just like Iran. -
I disagree entirely that perspective arguments are not relevant to the central point, but I respect your request.
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Although it is a more helpful focus, I am showing you the meta level of the problem. When you say A B C to me here I then interpret that to mean something. You then interpret that to mean something else. We then still have a disconnect. If you instead look at how A, B or C relate to each other, although we might interpret it differently, you'll be able to more directly achieve an outcome or understand what happens when someone is responding to you more directly. Especially as I, for example, have what you might consider left/right and spiritual tendencies. (Left Right is such a flawed axis when looked at in a global context that its often as confusing as it is helpful).
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I agree but the problem with that is, you'll still only have your own perception of what their identity means to them, even if they tell you it in their own words, then there is still a disconnect through interpretation. The only real approach is to see how the two identities relate to each other. That's the only thing you'll have first hand understanding of.
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Everything relies on how you perceive the world. There is no other method of forming a framework within which to act, other than your senses and pattern recognition. Meditation, dreamwork, your inner voice, and accessing the subconscious or greater mind can assist. Trouble is with most of that, its usually a metaphor that most people take literally or never fully understand, but then the journey there is usually the point. You are correct that someone's identity shapes their responses. If you remove the identity, life is simple (and quite beautiful) but its also a catalyst for being at the mercy of everyone else actively engaging in life.
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Dictators do not like authority outside of their own controlling anything
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I do feel in many ways the EU is surrounded by enemies and is left with no choice but to fight or diminish. Its a dangerous situation for some of the best-trained, technologically capable, and, quite frankly, experienced countries at fighting war on the planet. Influence is under attack in Africa, Russia is pressing from the east, and now in the far west America is ready to attack. The EU countries need nuclear profileration and they need to rearm quicker than they are doing.
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I'd just remove America from the countries that can ever receive it and blacklist them. Then we'll see where the power of the award lies. If that becomes impossible, it's time for a new award structure.
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BlueOak replied to Loveeee's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Its a wonderful experience. Infinite—Insert whatever here. Is infinity. Your identity is what you take from that and decide it is. -
BlueOak replied to Nick_98's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Earth is largely about the continuation and reproduction of life. -
BlueOak replied to Meeksauce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You perceive things in a way you can or want to understand them. -
Alright i'll rephrase. Its a poor way to order anything. People have thousands of years fighting over borders, disparity of strengths and influence, no central authority, a dwindling climate, and overreach on resources like water. Just saying multipolar, to me and I am sorry to the people fighting or arguing for this, sounds extremely naive. Its just chaos waiting to happen. - And is indeed chaos happening before our eyes. Rules do not imply that countries are subordinate to rules alone. They are subordinate to the authority enforcing them. People don't follow rules they don't like just because they exist; they follow them because if they do not, they are made to. Countries are arming themselves as other countries are threatening their sovereignty, borders, treaties, established institutions, populations, trade and national interests. With no authority to keep countries in check, people do whatever they like. More specifically North Korea have been given Nukes so they are capable of threatening South Korea and Japan should war break out, ditto Belarus threatening Poland and Eastern Europe.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
All true but if they were trained how to interact with the public and do their job more thoroughly, this would be less likely to happen. I understand you will argue this is part of the design, but others may counter, so this data is useful. Ice apparently gets 47 days of training; if we charitably say they get 8 hours each day, that's 376 hours, which is 11 times less than the best-trained forces around the globe and half as long as regular American police, who are woefully undertrained, Regular police get almost 7 times less hours than India for example. Someone can argue American training is more effective, but I doubt by a factor of ten. -
Yes. Which is paramount to anything else. Order and structure stops the planet becoming a wasteland; without it people do whatever they can get away with. At present countries don't have nukes because America stops them. BRICS have just given up stopping people and are now arming them, Belarus and North Korea for example. If this trend continues, we will have nuclear proliferation all over the world, and a considerably higher likelihood of ending the planet in the current multipolar no-order dynamic.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This is factually incorrect. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/police-training-requirements-by-country -
@Elliott Liberal democracies are as far away from nazi's as you can get. There a small growing nationalist sentiment, thanks to Russia, and the USA descending into fascism. But even national flags are often taken down, something I don't agree with, due to the large MIGRANT population in these countries. You don't even have a grasp on what you are talking about. Open borders woo woo. How to inspire nationalism, by putting in ten times net migrants than we were doing in decades gone by, so communities destabalise and order breaks down. Its why Russia sends so many over the border and Poland is forced to shoot them. Simply listing names does nothing. You've given me no context for how the people in these countries feel, or does that not matter? No indication of the quality of their lives. Would you like me to list the many countries the US has 'liberated', or the people your country has killed so it can get a bit more oil or trade revenue? GD its like a return to team America world police, only now its the Team America: Steal All We Can Get Solo Mafia version. I never thought you were this far gone. And by that I mean the 'opposition' to maga.
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Oh okay, you are serious. We don't need your liberation. We don't need American fascism designed to hide its own. Fascists always claim the other side is doing what they do to justify their own actions. Its what children do, and they haven't grown out of it. Meanwhile, you are threatening canada, mexico and greenland and somehow claiming to be justified. The UK has come to their senses and helped attack a country? What the hell are you trying to argue here? Yay, one step closer to WW3? This is something to celebrate? This is delusional warmongering. Most of these countries or regions you describe are perfectly happy as they are, certainly the UK backed ones, they are often given referendums when asked, security guarantees, and get to enjoy a better quality of life. Yes, free Greenland, a relatively happy population, into American guns. A European Army and nuclear proliferation in Europe can't come quickly enough. If this is the world we are up against. Americans and other authoritarian powers seizing whatever they like, and calling it liberation with a straight face, I hate fascists generally, but American ones take the cake, as they claim to be better than they are or doing it for someone else's good. At least the Russian ones just shoot you.
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BlueOak replied to Husseinisdoingfine's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Training. America sucks at training its law enforcement. Discipline isn't born into people, and little of exists in families these days. It needs a strong command structure and those in positions of authority to follow the rules they are enforcing, or else chaos, corruption, and suffering result. Equivocating a regular random person and a man or woman supposed to be in a position of authority is a false equivalency. It doesn't make sense. -
@Elliott I'm guessing you are trolling again. Though sometimes its hard to tell, America has gone so nuts these last few years.
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It stopped the planet turning into a wasteland. More countries have nukes. More will get them if America backstab Europe.
