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You can. If he's at the logical choice point, which I did a few months ago again. You could actually appeal to the logical part of his mind. In the end though I had to choose myself to give life another go. Its almost like a choice point after the depression or the events that have plagued you and you reach a calm eye of the storm choice moment. That's the best way I could describe it to you. Someone doing it in a state of despair is much more likely to need someone there, or a hug, or some relief, but what the OP is describing is a conscious choice moment. Your friend needs to see for himself that there is more to life than what he's experienced till this date, specifically a path or two to freedom.
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Day to day. That's all you can do. Freedom from abuse and control. Sounds familiar. He'll get freedom gradually as he moves away from them, but it'll still be with him even then. You can show him how he can find freedom now, and show him the path he'll get it if he keeps going. You can't give him the feeling but you can supply the conditions for the contrast. His own decisions, his own place, his own job, his own his own his own. Empower the very center of him, and help him keep it stable. He's got the reasons. Now he needs the goals, and the support to make it happen. Maybe start something as a pair, a hobby, a business, a website, a project, a holiday, whatever.
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Is there anything out there that will put me to sleep, preferably to stop me hearing animals scratching? At the moment I am using alcohol once a week to give me about 5 hours, which works, and I've considered going to twice a week or more, but i'd rather have alternatives. Someone said weed would help once a week, anything else out there you've tried? Desperate now I'm a light sleeper and it's been six weeks in 3 different locations.
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BlueOak replied to cistanche_enjoyer's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Because I am experiencing a life, and he's making my life, my country, and my planet worse with every day he is in office. That's why I dislike Trump. I barely pay attention any more as things continue to get worse. Now he's pushing for the EU to dissolve. I only saw that in the headlines as I was walking by the shop. What it will matter now we are set for a larger war, its the direction we've picked. Authoritarism, Border Wars, Resource Wars. Misery, suffering and civil unrest in deportations and Rising Nationalism. Those and of course burning up the planet. So I don't know about you @cistanche_enjoyer but things like America's healthcare system is garbage, and America has been trying to privatize the UK's healthcare system for decades to ruin ours for example. You guys are trying to ruin your education system; we copied you like fools with universities and will try and import some more of America's nonsense or get sold it. There is absolutely nothing I find redeeming, loving or even practical about the man or the direction your country has picked. If we had nothing to do with America and were not influenced by it at all, i'd be happier I guess. If you were a smaller country and did your own thing, I'd not care one bit. Wish the EU would grow more guts and develop a larger army themselves so they could kick back at Russia and China without needing to be babysat by what is turning into an authoritarian state. -
You can go this route: You don't exist. There are no personal views because there is no person. You can go the self route: There is a pattern everyone runs and it is observed. There are a predictable set of responses to this post I've made (less so now I've pointed it out to deflect them but that's predictable too). Unless you were to sit down and start typing out random letters or attempting to do something unexpected, what you do can be largely anticipated. That's just life, its gradual refinement of something through generations of individuals, nothing wrong with it, its how society and we evolve to see and experience more of infinity.
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I understand the earth is in a contraction still, so people are shedding, removing or downsizing. Economic winter, spiritual winter, etc. However, who do you think brings spring if not conscious people on the earth? When its hardest now is when you grow the most by pushing against it. When its easy, it'll take a lot more effort to gain the growth you get right now. I'm not saying any other meaning to that statement above. If your growth is somewhere else, its there, but don't let the fact it is a winter and difficult right now stop you. All the best with your journey. Wholeness.
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BlueOak replied to Vynce's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You can boil it down to: Do they think this lie will bring more love. You may not understand it, especially if there are a lot of distortions in the way, but that's what everything reduces to. -
I appreciate all this, guys, and have been reading up today in a rare moment of concentration and free time. I feel like I am dreaming my life at times. That and having a heavier, larger head than my body are two sensations I've had that I'll remember. Also, I don't feel like I fit anywhere as a result of moving three times and having a fourth to come. That plus some depressing family drama, same old same old. I've come back off the doctor's meds for light drowsiness, weed, alcohol, valerian, and some passflower chewy gums. The first three gave me about two days each, but I did a four-hour clean sleep with no aids last night, which was nice, the day before I had zero hours when I tried to make it clean without aid. Also the lady renting me the room has done what she can with one of the cats, the other still scratches but not as badly. Also, I spray the hell out of my own door with an orange/citrus peel spray so none try to get in. I am moving on Monday to my own flat finally, I didn't know if I would get it due to having to compete with others, but as my sleep got worse in the middle of all this I meditated for longer, until meditation lost its effectiveness. At one point, I was at 3 or 4 hours of meditation until it couldn't carry me either. Tell you what though I'll never have a pet again or kids, this has decided that
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Maybe its time to help someone else? And in doing so realise you are helping yourself? That this is a wakeup call to go collective minded rather than individual? In doing so you'll attain the next level of consciousness you are seeking through the interaction with others? Just a different perspective to give you, everything has multiple dimensions to it.
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Its flawed in a few ways but no model is perfect. Show me a better one, and I'll reference it. Flaws: 1, It doesn't show the emotional scale people are on, it shows the logical progression of society. 2, I sometimes feel it is slightly collectively biased 3, It is absolute in its view of a topic. Many things can transcend the scale if the person engaging in it is capable of doing so or taking it there. It's harder with certain things obviously. It's harder to make a consciously aware business for example that benefits people and the planet, but its not impossible. Same with Religion. 4, We've all discussed the difficulties with Turquoise and Higher, because collectively we are not yet there, it isn't as well defined or accessible as a result. The only problem with most religions is that they decide the concept of god is somewhere else but in your head. The counter I suppose, to that is, everything, including wherever you believe God is, is also in your head.
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BlueOak replied to Something Funny's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Fascism requires the suppression of protests because it cannot operate with secondary dissenting voices; the leadership of these countries is usually too fragile and top-heavy to allow it. It fosters demagogues, tyrants, or partly criminal personalities to rise to power who will take that power the second they can. People's voice is their own and their ability to protest and voice it, whether it's 1 person, a 100, or a million is a fundamental difference between democracy and the fascism people are jumping toward with open arms. A democracy is enriched by dissenting voices as it can constantly reform itself to suit the population, whereas an autocracy is one or a few voices deciding the way. -
BlueOak replied to Something Funny's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
It'll be a long fight to stop some of what's coming. Might as well get started now. -
All he's describing is the usual cycle. Bad economy = change candidates and fascist leaders. Good economy = liberal candidates and expansion. Then asking people (fascist leaders) not to be fascist leaders, while trying to say it'll cause less suffering. Make everyone fascist, and there will be less ideological war, sure. Horrendous outcome, but sure that's a truth. When they have bombed the few remaining Muslim countries to ruin or submission anyway, which still needs to happen. Arabia and other Muslim governments are not fully ideologically aligned with the current fascists. He touches on fear and some of this being used but sorry to be blunt but he's a moron if he thinks there will be fewer border, resource, climate, and migration wars and suffering nationally under these types of leaders. Fewer genocides and assassinations while living under fear. That has been increasing globally. Isolate America and there is good chance of a larger border war with Russia coming and Europe. That's WW3 for me anyway unless Russia and BRICS can be held where it is. Especially with North Korea just throwing manpower in, and China/Iran throwing resources.
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@zazen It's extremely rare in my experience that children vote the same way as their parents, just because their parents do. If anything I've experienced a rebellious opposite throughout my lifetime. Of much more import is whatever way the wind is blowing. People vote for whoever isn't in power in hard times, and bonus, someone hating everyone else because they feel bad themselves, and that shared hatred makes them feel better to find someone to blame (or shoot). All you need to do is shout Change in American or UK politics a lot when times are rough. The corporations take care of the rest by putting in the two candidates they like most. When you don't shout change as Kamala failed to do, her messaging was status quo and others trying to convince people times are not that hard. They are the hardest in the UK in my lifetime, which is why the right is out of power here and labor is in, because the right were in power when times got hard. The conservatives are starting to shout Change now, but its a bit early IMHO for them.
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BlueOak replied to 2bequitefrank's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Focus on the breath. Put your attention on it all the time it starts to wander. And whatever happens, happens. Breathe from the stomach: Another School of Thought: Self Inquiry might also help: What is your mind letting go of? What is letting go of your mind? Does the mind exist outside of your own mind/thoughts/experience of it? Personally, I've always had more energy with belly breathing than I ever used to, but I thought I'd offer the other video for balance. -
BlueOak replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Yes, the entire debate drove me mad, and it's why I wish there were at least 3 voices in US or UK politics on several issues for balance. One side wants to protect the immediate body of the unborn. The other wants to protect rights of the mother. Few voices considered the life of the child after birth, or the mother for that matter in either scenario. -
This is a choice for division, deportation, war, heating up the climate etc. It's not the coming-together choice; it is the other one. If you want positive, you'll do more short-term business, but it'll be less stable long-term unless it's in line with the pattern I've described above.
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BlueOak replied to Spiritual Warfare's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
People are unaware that consciousness is the most important thing in the universe. Someone who isn't conscious isn't there. This applies to brain-dead people on life support, and it applies to unborn, unconscious babies. Until something is conscious, it is part of the mother and her choice. When it has consciousness awareness it needs all the protection in the world, including more support for drug treatment, child safety, schooling, healthcare, and the foster care system, which runs parallel with how many additional babies are forced to be born into broken homes by governmental policy. NB Before someone's ego defends their existence, I was also born into a hellish home, so I understand and there is no need to defend yourself to me. This is an observation of society and policy impacts on life as a whole. -
Its called decades of a pattern, watching it happen and people denying it to your face. You are touching on the main realisation others made, that it is a race against time. Will the Republicans (take that to mean the right or industrialists in other countries) take climate change seriously, or will they not before the climate gets too bad for human life to continue to exist at a level we are accustomed to? Because there are other levels of existence on earth we can endure. Trump listens to people who shine him on. If Musk has someone smart enough to butter him up sure; otherwise, he'll drop him as soon as it suits him; he has done with everyone else when it suits him. While Musk has popularity and makes Trump feel good he's around for now. He's going to reform the system to make it even less likely he'll not lose next time, Musk isn't required, it's already rigged in that direction with the courts, media, and gerrymandering. I don't think you are yet aware of how fragile things are now regarding humans. For example, if bees go extinct, we go. If the climate gets to a certain level of heat, we are dead. There is a possibility that in a couple of hundred years, we will be extinct. That's where we are at now. I think we'll be around, but there will be less of us and more war over water, resources and migration issues. The earth will be more like a desert in several areas and coastal cities will be flooded, both are happening now at a gradual pace. Food costs will skyrocket as farming land and fish continue to decrease, etc. @Sea NB, But yes America listens to corporations, and corporations are still weighted to be anti-climate, so that is your answer.
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1st Location: I was caring for my Mum and tried to live upstairs but the landing there woke me up with regular traffic in a busy house. 2nd Location: The guy was great but he was on his phone at 3am and there were loud trains next door, plus a rogue mouse, 3rd Location The woman has a lovely home, but the pets are used to scratching at all the doors to get let out. I cannot fall asleep if I am woken up early on in my sleep cycle, and then she gets up at 4am for work (I work evenings) so I get 2 and half hours max. @Schizophonia I agree I found this out last time and I do try the, whatever happens, happens mentality, but also its the biggest priority I have, more than food. You get to a point where nothing else matters, I was almost walking into cars, and lashing out, forgetting everything etc. Thank you both for your suggestions, if anyone has any more please offer them. I will try them one at a time obviously, and not mix anything.
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I am operating on so little sleep that my creativity is nonexistent, but I will try with a larger mind answer. Charisma. Less Disconnect from the working man. Favorability. More Controversial Dividing Topics. More 'Change' Messaging. Dems lacked it. Producing more leftwing podcasts and an a stronger populist online presence. Nobody on the left likes to engage with the left popular vote. If they do maybe they will have a chance. Sorry its not my best answer, but at the moment I am a zombie.
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They will continue to move further right.
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Trump can ignore anyone he likes at any time, and will. The republicans will not suddenly start helping the environment no. Both parties are corporate parties and corporations are weighted against the environmental concerns still. Plus a lot of their base has been told its a lie and doesn't exist so, there is political capital in doing the opposite.
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BlueOak replied to Something Funny's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Gotcha. It's a fair enough point for me generally. Even though applied globally to the UK at least and the working class, it wouldn't apply. -
They've voted for an authoritarian, semi-fascist in a tough time with war on the horizon. Its just the same cycle it always is. All that's happened is we are now closer to war than we were. America isolates more, Putin takes Ukraine, or a large enough chunk to go again and then we have a larger war in Europe, because we don't have the US guaranteeing it anymore or people taking that guarantee as a reason not to try and take land.