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I think it was a bad idea for a few reasons. They went right in the middle of Arab neighbors so they were surrounded by all sides with threats of being pushed into the ocean. Geography wise it was a bad placement. Another reason is they didn’t think Palestinians would be so resistant. From the initial expelling to the hour long checkpoints today they were met with resistance every step of the way. They expected them to give up eventually. Another thing they didn’t consider was the demographics. Palestinians have big families and lots of kids. Another bad idea was not going to a country with much bigger land that could have been negotiated better. Like they could have bought some Midwest land in America and no American would have been affected and it would have helped both economies by working together It was a terrible idea. The only reason it’s gotten this far was because of American support, propaganda, the idiocy and ignorance of the international community, and some mistakes made by Palestinian leadership . It didn’t get this far because it’s a half good or good idea

@Lila9 if you really want the best for Jews know that they are better off as a minority in Palestine or back to diaspora Zionism hurts Jews Palestinians and the region

It just proves that Zionism is a lie. If Zionism was about saving European Jews from oppression why include middle eastern Jews which were perfectly safe and actually rooted in their own places

The Jews weren’t displaced by middle easterner countries. They were absorbed by the Zionists to increase the population which is actually one of the many disruptions of Zionism

you were asking where Jews truly belong. They belong in diaspora But I’m saying if they are allowed to stay in Palestine it’s a favorable upgrade for them. Beggars can’t be choosers

By this logic since the Palestinians were hit by the Jews they have right to exterminate them out of need of survival

Jews have always been a scattered diaspora. Religiously speaking they are not allowed to have independent land. Why do you think before Israel there were Jews scattered all over Europe , Middle East, and America?

How do you know they would kill all the Jews? They say they just want to return to their land. There is 100x more genocidal speech and language coming from Zionists from 48 all the way till today If you don’t at least want some form of vengeance after your land and people are raped then your either the Buddha or a pussy. But when things get corrected people tend to not want vengence as strongly and it fades away If someone is gonna have to die. I’d rather see it be the invaders. But I don’t think anyone has to die at all and I don’t want to see anyone die. and the sooner it ends the sooner the hate can stop accumulating

You can’t necessarily prove the same Jews in the Middle East two thousand years ago are the same ones that came from Europe 75 years ago. Especially since they refuse to take dna tests The longing for Palestinians to return to their ancestral home will never expire. Jews don’t actually feel a real connection to the land since that’s just something they say as a lie or they were brainwashed to say it. Palestinians are the true indigenous people to that land. If Jews do leave, which some did after a small Oct attack, they don’t really feel a longing to return and if they do it isn’t because of the actual land but just because there material stuff and family are back there. It’s like when someone steals from you and they blame it on hunger meanwhile some hungry people don’t steal at all even if they are hungry It won’t matter. Zionism is on its way out real soon. Literally nothing Zionists can do about it except more war crimes which they will be accounted for When all this is over and the Jews are allowed to stay they won’t be allowed to say that they were there 2000 years ago. They will have to acknowledge that they are basically beggars from a genocide and that they are guests due to generosity of Palestinians. That they depend on Middle East for survival from western anti semitism. Colonialism depending on others by stealing from others and pretending it’s yours. After colonialism is depending on others but admitting it’s not yours. All this propaganda is getting thrown out. Any delusions they hold will have to be uprooted

I already posted a video about this. I’ll post it here again. And remember Palestinians have more people and are a majority. Some of the parents/grandparents were born there whether they got kicked out at 67 or 48 they are still alive. Here is a video about the decendents right to the land The longer the Zionists or even Jews wait to do the right thing the worse off their own people will be in the end when the Palestinians will get pretty much the same outcome no matter how much time passes

The ideology will be filtered out automatically. Simply because the new landscape won’t allow it or won’t adapt to it. They will be angry but without force or support behind them they will just fade out. There will be violence and arguments but it will be human rights issues rather than land or apartheid issues

It would go back to what it was before Zionism. Probably a one state solution with majority Palestinian and minority Jew. The middle eastern Jews can do business and trade with the rest of the Middle East and the hardcore Zionist ones will voluntarily go back to Europe because the only reason they are there is for the ethno state and because America protects them. Only then can Jews and their children know true peace after thousands of years of oppression

I meant do a permanent one state or two state solution which requires giving back land

You have to take responsibility for all the other voters that vote wrong too. Because you agree to a democratic system before the vote happens There were problems before Netanyahu as well

You can’t brag that you are the only democracy among savages but not take responsibility for your collective society It’s not a problem. It’s about the theft How were there trials? I’m not saying to do negotiations l, treaties or trails. I asked if Israel ever tried going all the way with it. Give back all land and allow all refugees to return and apologize for the initial thefts. It seems they try every solution except the most important one

I think it was mostly about how zionism is a violent, lying, thieving ideology. There was always 3 religions in that area. What you talking bout? Still so hard to speak to all the Israelis on this forum. Like running through sticky mud Has Israel ever even tried to give Palestinians all their land back, apologize and acknowledge all the crimes they have committed, allowed the Palestinian refugees to come back, allowed Palestine to have an army just like any other nation has, followed all the UN laws etc etc? Or are they just in a self fulfilling prophecy of paranoia of what may happen and they have never tried this and that's the cause of all this drama

Zionism is on its way out. The more they clutch to it the worst off they will be when the inevitable happens

The Arab neighbors that attacked in 67 because Israel is a destabilization of the entire region? 50 years ago is not today. You can't be paranoid about something that happened so long ago Besides you missed my point. First the 250 pound man needs to have mercy on the 100 pound man so the 100 pound man doesn't have to get his friends to help. Israel just needs to give Palestinians their land and rights back BEFORE expecting Palestinians to not be hostile. It will never happen the other way around

I thought it was just a way to use the stock market to allow people to donate more funds than the legal limit to a presidents campaign

It's up to the Israelis to stand up and be the better man in the situation. Since they have much more power. If a 250 pound man and a 100 pound man are fighting at the bar. It's more honorable for the larger man to voluntarily give mercy on the smaller man. Versus the smaller man having to beg for forgiveness to the larger man. The smaller man by definition can't give mercy to the larger one

Hasbara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNW2p0nTEto The video above is where Nas Daily tells Israelis and Palestinians to just make peace. Why didn't anyone think of that before? Debunk video below

The both sides are equally at fault and equally fueling the conflict deception