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So you watched the video and everything they say is a manipulation and there is no truth to it? Proof of stolen funds? And proof that if they stole funds that means the Palestinian issue should be disregarded as unimportant? If they steal funds it's okay for Israel to steal Palestine? Obviously there is propaganda on both sides. This is obvious and doesn't need to be stated.

Here are the two book summaries of Rich Forer "After more than sixty years, the Israel-Palestinian issue is as intractable as ever. Groups and individuals on either side reflexively point to the other as the cause of conflict. Blame and intense emotion permeate virtually any discussion of the subject. In this book, Richard Forer explains that no action occurs in a vacuum, that we all play roles in the suffering of others and that only an honest intention to discover the history for ourselves can alleviate the suffering. Through meticulous research Forer examines and reframes the most common and misunderstood arguments on both sides of the conflict. He shows that the real enemy is the unexamined mind that projects its suffering onto the other. Though not a religious Jew, Forer had been a loyal defender of Israeli policy all his life and zealously supported Israel s 2006 invasion of Lebanon. In response to what he perceived as growing global anti-Semitism, he became a member of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Angry that two of his most trusted friends resisted his views, and surprised that a long-time Jewish friend would suggest that his opinions were not as factually based as he assumed, Forer began an intensive study of the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict, determined to discover the facts for himself. With an uncompromising commitment to the truth, he went far beyond his original intention, even challenging his very identity. Reaching into the depths of himself, in a remarkable moment he underwent a spontaneous spiritual transformation in which he awoke to his true identity, beyond the limits of the ego and its enforced loyalties. Feeling how his attachment to Israel had blinded him to the human dimension of the conflict and had led him to reject the other in a heartless way, Forer realized that the true root of conflict is one's presumed identity and the beliefs and images that emanate from and reinforce that identity, and that these presumptions are false and unnecessary. He discovered that in Truth we are all Muslim and Jewish, Palestinian and Israeli. Forer had recognized the heart of Judaism, which embraces the Universal and identifies with all of humanity." "Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity tells the true story of a lifelong supporter of Israel who underwent a remarkable spiritual awakening in which he realized he was as much Muslim or Christian as Jew and as much Palestinian as Israeli or American. Existential fear and confusion, the hallmarks of separate identities, were transformed into compassion and clarity and an unequivocal vision of the roots of suffering spontaneously arose. Recognizing that endless conflict only leads to alienation from our true selves, this book encourages readers to look at the documented history of the Israel-Palestine tragedy and get in touch with how they view and interpret that history. It offers readers a path that leads to freedom from false beliefs, enemy images, and the illusion of identity to equal rights for all people and a just peace between Palestinians and Israelis. An astonishing and groundbreaking commentary, Wake Up and Reclaim Your Humanity is the first book EVER written that explains the root cause of the Israel-Palestine tragedy. Wrestling with the question, "why do normally decent people, who ordinarily believe in justice, support indecency and injustice?", this book provides answers that are critical to a deeper understanding of the human condition and profoundly clarifying in their ability to alleviate the confusion that has permeated the subject for generations."

Well did you know that most Hamas members are orphans from IDF massacres? And they are also under constant threat? And they have no hope because all they see is more promises of further violence from the IDF? And they have no outside support?

"What if I told you Israel has terrorist all the way from the top to the bottom? From the beginning to now?" By this I meant their armies and commanders. Every single IDF is a terrorist and every single politician and the generals in-between. How can they not be? From beginning until now means they have never wanted peace since the very beginning until this very day and any peace talks has been a distraction for more land grabbing

You said soldiers for the Israeli side and the very next post you said Palestinian terrorists. But who gets to say who is the terrorist? The colonial powers? That's very biased. How do we know that the IDF isn't the terrorist and the indigenous are just resistance freedom fighters?

He says in the beginning of the interview that if it was the other way around and the Palestinians were the colonial power that he would criticize the exact same way. The most important part is his awakening where he describes similar things to other sages of the past In the awakening world one sees the illusionary game as just illusionary and instead of two people playing their parts it is a misidentification of who we think ourselves to be and a misrepresentation of who we the others are

@Lila9 Iran funded the Oct 7th attack but Hamas did it for their own cause. Why don't you listen to them and at least see where they are coming from. I can promise you one thing. They have listened to everything your side has said. Listen to actual Palestinian peoples interviews. The ones from the West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem, Refugees outside, and ones who have citizenship outside.

Zionism is fine. Jews need a homeland to protect against racist Europeans and Americans. This was MORE true in the past but maybe today the only reason the West supports Israel is to keep Jews away. I think the Jews are fine everywhere today but a century ago it made sense The problem with Zionism is that it wants to ethnically cleanse/genocide/enslave/entrap Palestinians because Palestinians are indigenous to the land of Palestine which is the land that Zionism chose You really have to stop playing victim or detective on peoples intentions behind criticisms. If you really think that Jews truly picked a land without a people and Arabs would still be jealous of Jews success and have anti semitism towards them and seek to destroy them then you are truly someone that nobody can help. The problems with Jews in the Middle East is Zionism because it is oppressive towards an entire people that are completely innocent to the reason why Zionism was necessary. But if you keep running around in circles like this never acknowledging that and always accusing people of things and never arriving towards a solution then it's no wonder people are frustrated with you and your people There are no more words to string together for you to understand. You are either brainwashed, malicious, or someone that can not be helped in this lifetime unless you have a serious awakening

I don't know. You should ask them what they think. You should listen to what their leaders say. Don't make assumptions Stop listening to your puppet leaders talk about how the Palestinians feel about you. See for yourself. If you have the guts

I didn't say the citizens were terrorists but the soldiers. You said 4 female IDF soldiers

I don’t think he is too biased himself and that’s the point of the awakening In this illusionary game the Zionists are playing the part of the colonial settler invaders with state of the art weaponry, media, and funds. And the Palestinians are playing the part of the forgotten, poor, lack of resources and support, ethnically cleansed ingenious people A mass awakening is not gonna be the solution to this. It will be a political solution. How many people are actually enlightened in this entire world? Not many

4 female IDF terrorists

Don't let anyone bully you. Fuck em. All minorities (people of color are the global majority by far) need to stand up against this shit once and for all. This white supremacy has gone on far too long He wants to kick out all the colored meanwhile he wants to absorb white countries like Canada and Greenland Don't feel fear for being who you are

It's just porn evolved

I said it in a different thread but Elon's only real future would be to be governor of California and then secede from the USA. Add in using whatever military is in California to go to war with the rest of the USA and then take it all Or just go back to South Africa Does Trump really need Musk to go to Mars? Space X is pretty much already built and organized. Just replace him. Shits probably never gonna happen anyways

You should get a job scrubbing the toilets at Amazon headquarters. They will let you decide the future of the company, money management, marketing, supply chain, hiring/firing and how to handle competition. Democracy makes total sense because people who scrub the toilets SHOULD be able to have a say in how trillion dollar global companies with hundreds of thousands of employees are ran If there is a hope for democracy it needs to be something like for every child you have you get an extra vote. People with children are more concerned about the future instead of selfishly thinking short term for their own gratification. It's not perfect but I think it's better. Or something like only people willing to fight in war should be able to vote Democracy is sketchy because if I topple a government and replace it with democracy all I have to do is use the media to brainwash people to vote how I want them to while also gaining their approval Side topic: I wish a country couldn't go to war unless the president and his sons did some form of combat to make sure it's actually a necessary war

Another perfect example of a Western brainwashed old fart. A seemingly intelligent person whose "logic" goes in circles and projects projects projects without any real proof other than the superiorty delusions in her own mind. Female Jordan Peterson

That's why I said hardcore drugs. Everyone needs a vice but why choose something that will ruin your life like meth vs something that will still sedate you like weed. I think thats more of a problem than cartels giving people what they choose If they legalize drugs then the USA pharmacy becomes the new cartel. So all you do is remove violence but cartels are only violent in the first place because its illegal and you need to be violent to move illegally It's probably better off to give super strict penalties for possessing small amounts. Like the death penalty for 1 small bag of meth. And if someone gets caught with it you sentence them to a much more lenient penalty. This way the people who were never that committed in the first place would never even attempt it and get addicted to it and the people that are really about it are gonna try it whether its legal or lenient or strict and they will get addicted

How does it undermine America? If Mexico doesn't go to war with their own cartels why should America?

So if all power is equally violent and brutal across the board no matter who wields it why are you guys scared of Chinese or Russian power? Or even scared of Trump over Harris?

You missed my first point. Why do people want hardcore drugs in the first place? I never wanted or needed them By hardcore I mean the cartel drugs such as meth, heroin, crack, fentanyl Don't you think it's better to get rid of the demand from the consumer side rather than getting rid of the supply from the producer side or legalizing it on the both side

Well Westerners are the main customers of cartels which fuel the entire supply chain from bottom to top and all the violence that comes along with that. What happens when you give drug lords billions of dollars every week by buying their products

Why do people want hardcore drugs? Cartel doesn't sell consciousness promoting drugs

@Emerald Ill check the book out thanks

I get it But I wound't personally glorify it. Theres a lot of traps around it too which can be avoided but I have had just as much fun with low status because I know how to use that too