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Dude, you seriously put warm into my heart. I really got stuck into this forum narration lately, and it put me miserable. It's not that it's anyone's fault, it's just language which may be good pointer but IT'S NOT THE TRUTH. But the way you put it, it really, really resonate with my experience, and i "feel" it with all my heart. Thank you.

How is it different from "normal" materialistic perspective? Even one, who has 0 spiritual experience may say that: -i never experience anything other than myself. It's all my thoughts, senses, perception. -I'm born alone and i'll die alone -I'm with myself 24/7h, there's no other way. Therefore it's obvious, when you go deep into your mind, you won't find anyone there, right? But still, it's the case for all the people, so obviously, It's true for GOD. Together, we are all alone.

Maybe, on the forum, there should be some explanation post ( the one Tim wrote is great!) attached? i think it could really solve 90% of solipsism misunderstanding and topics. Instead of closing it down, there should be more explanation done. Especially about danger of sloppy language. Thank you once again for help! love!

Thank you once again, Tim. Your explanation really got me. if think it's soooo easy for ego to corrupt this idea, on this forum, when all people see is : You are the only one. You are God. There's nothing outside you." etc. It's sloppy language which drives people insane, people should be aware of this. Yes. Nr 1, actually drove me insane.I got over it, but it's hell-of-a-trap. I think there should be more disclaimers, about that you actually need to experience no-self, and then stepping into God realization... Nahm was doing a very good job in that now it's only "You are God" thing, and most people aren't that advanced. yes, seeing it as you describe, I don't understand it either. And this forum narrative goes 90% about that

Should one first experience no self (maybe without psychedelics, because it's easier), and then go to the God realization (with psychedelics)? Cause if it's other way around, it's easy for ego to corrupt this insight. I think that's what happened to me.

Very good points, really. I also wonder, how many people chasing spirituality, are doing so, just to escape their lives. I think many. but the escape mechanism could be anything, excessive work, drugs, money etc. It's not about spirituality being somehow different. I've achieved everything i wanted in life, and it wasn't fulfilling at all. Now it's much better, so i think it's all about setting priorities first. And yeah, i wouldn't recommend starting with spirituality, when you aren't grounded into this dream money/career-wise etc. Trips don't last long, chasing spirituality doesn't seem that much time-consuming. What do you mean, you wasted your life on that? Have it improved your life anyhow ?

Still recovering, but after 2 weeks its much easier. Also what i've noticed, it's only "thought attachment" which make you suffer. No thoughts = no suffering, and just enjoying life. IF you want to talk, just pm me, you are not alone!! Love!! Thank you so much brother!

i still struggle, a bit, with what i've experienced in God-realization. I think solipsism seen from ego-mind is pure hell, not a heaven. I still suffer from thoughts like " they don't have experience, they are "empty-suits" . It's sounds demonic and hellish even. It can't be truth. it kills all the love towards others, because what's the point? i get it, that what i see is all there is, and there's nothing outside. My mind is absolute. If i see my hand it's all there is. People here, and their explanation on this forum really helped me reframe it. Thank you so much good souls!!! I see as: my dream is absolute. In that dream for example Leo doesn't have any experience. But on diffrent timeline/scale/dream i experience Leo, and my current body-mind don't have any experience. I'm him, he's me, in diffrent dream. What you see right now, it's absolute. There's no experience behind the scenes. There's no others either. It happens not simultaneously, but synchronously. So you are all the people you see, just on the different scale/time-line/ different dream, people are not just "empty-suits' i'm wearing them, so love to others is love for myself. Do i frame it right? Seen as that it's actually bearable.

what do you mean exactly? Love it. You should make your own threat and post all the videos, music i you also posted this, i love it!

Thank you sir! you're right, truth must be love, so it must be something wrong, when i step back from it.

Thanks. It really helps me. I'm getting better now

I'm still struggling, and i've been in hell because of that, but now as i see it: What you see, it's absolute. There's no experience behind the scenes. There's no others either. But you also experience THEIR DREAMS, and you see yourself (your body-mind) from their pov. And in THEIR DREAM, You (your body-mind) would not have any experience. It happens not simultaneously, but synchronously. So you are all the people you see, just on the different scale/time-line/ different dream, I think it's how it works.

i've been there, i had very rough time, you can read my those topics it may help: [1] [2] https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/78708-trip-report-of-going-to-hell-to-the-point-of-suicide /#comment-1099770 Time really heals it. Also solipsism seen from "ego-mind" is pure hell, you are a dream, just like anything, and just like every other-human-being. What also helps it's seeing it as : yes, everyone is you, and from your dreamt pov they don't have experience, but you are them, and you'll experience it, and even see your currenct body, as a dream character. It's all one. You are not alone, just so together. It will really get better, trust me.

You dont know other people struggles. How come rich and famous commit suicides ? Outside world doesnt bring you happiness, understanding your true nature does.

You must be Fun on parties Synchronicity, telepathy, it totally felt like we had one mind and we knew exactly what was the "other" thoughts. and eyes gazing is super powerful, you can directly say that he's you, you are him. Theres no distinction between each other

@Leo Gura by "more work" you mean, should i mediate, or leave all the spirituality completely? i'm obviously not touching any substances for at least a year, but what about other, less hardcore practices?

Did you mediate during this period, or did you leave all the spirituality completely?

Thank you sir! i don't know, should i even meditate or not? i'm a little anxious of what happened, my ego couldn't stomach it, so it kicked soo hard. I need to slowly dissolve it in love and care. And you are so right, i need to take step back and ground myself into this life. I think i might leave this forum for some time too.

yes, i'm not touching it for at least a year, and i'm going to be more loving for everyone. Only love can save me. I'm going to do some meditation only. Thanks

I'm God. I'm absolutely everything there is. I would go to the doctor, to get some pills, but all I get is me. i can die, just to experience me dying, and forgetting again. There's no cure for that, only self-deception. I can only cheat myself that i write this post to someone. It's all me. My imagination. It's all pure dream stuff. I can see it right now, and 100% conscious of that. i feel it's not what i wanted. Fuck. Now i feel soo fucking lonely to the point of killing myself, and go into another self-deception-dream is a only way out? how do i get less conscious?

yes, it's all me, but right now everything is meaningless it is self and and the same there's not?

so is it truth if i say that i'm absolute nothingness/love, so everything around me is everything yet nothing?

thank you, i'll try to co-op with that. it's all the perspective, and try to ground myself, find love to myself, there's nothing left to do.

any tips please? How do i co-op with the fact i'm absolutely fucking alone

i saw her drop-dead,she was empty, and i gave life to her, so her eyes awaken. Out of my pure imagination. All the lights turned off, all the people disappear in the next building, than all the "reality" and space, It was all me. All collapsed into me.I'm Imagining all this. I was in empty void outside of time, and i knew i can't forget and i dont want it. my pov is infinite and absolute