WokeBloke

What I know is that the body and God or reality are one. I don't think I'm limited to this body but I know I am not separate from it.

wake up to what?

Right all bodies are God manifested. bodies are never beyond themselves. Bodies are self transcending.

Now this is a question I have seen SO many answers given on and I want to hear yours. I feel like thinking is a pretty complicated issue so I will reduce the problem to activities that are simpler than thinking. Also before we continue obviously a thinker is a thought but the question is what thinks the thinker thought... When there is walking is there a walker? When there is talking is there a talker? When there is listening is there a listener? When there is cooking is there a cooker? A walker, talker, listener, cooker would be "someone who _________ (walks, talks, listens, cooks)" A someone implies a subject preforming the activity. Now my personal opinion is that when people say there is no thinker and thoughts just arise spontaneously they are overlooking themselves. If I am walking and I say there is no walker its as if I'm stripping out all subjectivity from the equation when in reality the subject is the foundation of everything it seems. There can be thinking, walking, etc without the aware subject who does these things. Anyway this can be taken much deeper I'm sure. Let me see your thoughts. Or perhaps you are not writing to a subject just to an unaware void that magically responds to you.

That solves that. Everything I think is what you think.

That which says I.

Thoughts are brought into existence. This thought did not exist until it was created. Unless there is a separate creator then I must be the one responsible for it's existence.

no I don't think I am a thought. but I do think I make the thoughts. You don't think so?

that you made. More precisely you are wherever your body is. Currently you are probably sitting on a chair looking at the computer seeing the thought you made.

You are right where you currently are.

And yet you've posted 4,477 thoughts

I hope you're surgeon doesn't think you're just a color

There is not only thought lol that's just a thought you made. Everything you are looking at right now (except these thoughts) is not thoughts. I'm not chopping you up. I'm chopping your thoughts up.

would you agree for there to be self referential thinking there has to be a subject/self that is thinking about itself?

lets go back to your thought that I was I believe 4 thoughts ago. "there is no next thought" And yet after that 4 new thoughts came in a sequential order.

they are in my karmic accumulation.

doesn't mean there isn't tomorrow lol. You really making the claim you will never have a thought again? Sounds a little goofy.

Spontaneous creation. I create them spontaneously. I don't have to premeditate which thought I will make next.

I will now produce a next thought after this thought. here it is

The idea is that every thought that appears is my creation. No I don't know what I will think next but when I do I will be the one who thinks it.

What wrote your post?

I agree language is evolving. Future humanity will be more adept in communicating their ideas and our society can't function without it. listen to Terrance Mckenna if you want to see the power of language.

I'm still experiencing when there is no thought though. I don't need to think in order for there to be an experience. Not really sure what you're getting at. Don't think you know either.

I don't quite understand what you are getting at? Thought doesn't think. The question is what thinks. So when I ask you if there is a thinker I am not asking a thought if there is a thinker I am asking the thinker if there is a thinker.

You didn't answer the question though.