WokeBloke

This sentence comes from me. I am literally making a part of your experience by inputting this sentence into your brain. I am outside of your body. Thus, this input is coming from outside your body. How can I be a dream if I exist beyond your body?

I don't know but since humans don't have access to each other's experience I can't know one way or another.

@Mason Riggle Everytime you do something you change reality.

This post is only being made because I am making it. I can stop making it which I will prove by ending this post right here.

I generated this sentence by controlling my body in a particular way and typing the necessary keys on my keyboard.

@Mason Riggle No it was generated by me just like this sentence. It only appears because I made it appear.

This sentence did not exist until I typed it. In other words its existence began. That which brought this sentence into existence calls itself the creator. It exists prior to creating this sentence. Why do you equate the creator and its creation? Do you really think this sentence typed itself and why?

@cetus You claim it came into existence. What caused it to come into existence?

@A Fellow Lighter Words with hands. Never seen one.

@A Fellow Lighter How could it type itself since it doesn't have hands?

Inside and outside are creations that depend on boundaries. When we make a boundary we create an inside and an outside.

Not sure if this will be helpful but consider the idea that you are aware and unaware simultaneously. For example you are aware of this sentence but simultaneously you are unaware of what's behind your back.

@Mason Riggle Creator and creation are two parts of one reality. But they are not the same. Parts of reality are not all of reality. Creator creates creation. Creation does not create the creator. In other words this sentence didn't create you. Creator and creation coexist.

In your own words do you consider yourself to be imaginary? Or do you consider yourself to be real and everything else imaginary?

@Kksd74628 It's important to know his stance isn't it?

To preface this discussion I ask you the following question: If you are the one experiencing with all of the bodies in this world then is this really a dream world? Think about how many lives that is. In other words when your body dies you don't leave this planet. You would be coming right back to the "dream world" According to Leo this is a dream. Firstly would you agree that to qualify this as a dream the other people in the dream would have to be unconscious? How can you be sure that this is a dream without having woken up from this yet? I say he hasn't woken up from this yet because he is still living in our world. You might say he has become lucid. If this is true and he is the sole creator of this so-called dream then he should be able to prove his lucidity and acclaimed godliness by getting rid of me. He should be able to control me since I'm just a dream character according to him. He is unable to do this though making his claim unsubstantiated. And for you too. How can you call this a dream if you are unable to get rid of the dream characters like me? Perhaps these people are more than just dream characters.

@Oeaohoo Leo's realization that I am a dream character is false since I am not one. Everyone that claims to have woken up is still living in this world.

@Inliytened1 What a mistake though if one is trying to wake up from base reality. It isn't possible. It seems Leo only thinks he has awoken. So again where is the evidence that you or anyone else is a dream character? You talk as if you know that you are a dream character. But are you just tricking me or trying to help me?

@Nilsi So I am no different than a person you encounter in a dream in your view? The people you encounter in dreams are conscious in your view?

There's a reason I make a distinction. In both dreams and waking state you are conscious. But what you are conscious of is certainly not the same right? Just like we talk about the difference between hot and cold.

@Nilsi So the people you interact with in your dreams are no different than me in your opinion?

@Oeaohoo So you think you are God or not? Sounds like you believe in a creator separate from yourself.

@Oeaohoo You can call yourself God but if you aren't omnipotent (which you aren't because you would be able to do anything right now such as kill me) then it's sort of pointless. There appears to be no omnipotent God. Only limited humans and animals on this planet.

@Nilsi Both names have been created and mean different things. It's not possible to be dreaming and awake simultaneously. So you are either dreaming or awake to base reality right now. You didn't answer what you think your current state is.

@Oeaohoo I do take them literally because how we use language matters deeply. It is the individual human (you and me) that is living all the lives in this scenario. So not sure why you consider the human to not be God since it is only the human beings (and animals) on the planet that are living? When you are interacting with yourself/other (depending on if you are me or not) I call that the waking state. When you are interacting with dream characters while you are asleep I call that dreaming. In other words if you are me then my life is absolutely real. In fact it's your life.