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I heard also that a torturer will eventually have to kill the person he/she tortures because pain eventually turns into pleasure and therefore the torturer can no long inflict pain on the person ... and another report was that there were a man who returned back to his body in hospital and then to interpret the world was like being in a wonky-weighty crushed soda can, and nothing really compared to the free airiness of out of body ... Sometimes I'm utterly confused with learning about all this information to the point I'm confused and unsure what to do or where to go except meditate and push aside life - I watched a video this morning and Leo said to inquire into one self, and it may take years, and that it is possible to find something important about myself such as the discovery I'm not being the body or the mind, which the most important discovery about nothingness one can obtain, better than money, sex, success, education and all this, @Nahm And thanks for the sharing !

@Hello from Russia Are you saying someone who meditates has a greater edge over those who don't practise? I mean maybe most men are naturally loving and this man meditates to overcome childhood traumas,

I presume any doubts one has it can spiral into gloomy mind space, and without a buddy to hype up your greater qualities, might be challenging to move onward, hence a positive mindset and moving forward no matter what lol But I think if you're going out determined its better to wait when you're on top of your game, like doing drugs without a proper setting and then perhaps having a hellish trip,

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@Loba As you go on to explain about karma as what kind of pulls a soul forwards in exploration, due to not having a discriminatory brain on the other end, they'll go to what they're attracted to ... which is close I imagine to what Sadghuru would teach, although other spiritual ghurus kind of dismiss this idea, I love hearing spiritualists like Teal Swan discuss how we choose our incarnations, which you layed out quite well, and makes me kind of lean into the idea all is perfect and I opted into this with well meaning intentions, Thanks for the creative response, And I like how you said it may be more like shock than pain, I really liked that,

If we're playing by categories and fitting people into narrow tight little boxes, I'd be former, but oviously I'm much more than silly labels

Haha, deep stuff, bro

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Haha, Ever sliced a finger on a sharp knife? How easily it glides through the skin, and the stinging which follows? I read one online thread a man talks about the time he got stabbed in the chest, it's like the finger except larger and painful when he'd move the muscles around the blade. And then I saw a post where a man opened the door one night at a friend's house thinking it was pizza, but instead a giant knife entered through the top of his skull and there was an xray image, and it was the largest object surgions successfully removed from the skull and he lived, but I'd love these people to report their experience, like did it hurt bro?

I think the anatomy sizes like legs compared to the tail are a bit off, and the position of limbs like the feet aren't correct, and there's not a lot of weight to match the overall action this imagined creature performs, shading can perhaps be practised upon - I think this is a little better than what I can do, I'm sure a year's practise will imporove somewhat dramatically,

Yes, I can relate, I'd love to just sleep all day everyday at a private home if I owned one, but I don't, and if I did sleep it'd feel way too lazy and it'll make me all the more depressed and guilty, so I have to do something like clean or read or whatever,

@Godishere What if this whole you are imaginary / "seperation doesn't actually exist" type of contemplation isn't as radical as we make it out to be, unless of course one does psychedelics and it somewhat becomes spooky/mindfuck obvious - How do you get into god realization without falling asleep in meditation?

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@WokeBloke I'd say memories function like an echo, a slight resonance, or otherwise one wouldn't realize they're experiencing being a human in the moment

@WokeBloke I assume you often take substances? Weed or acid? ... Your words aren't properly articulated, hence why I stopped smoking weed to communicate with people, How about this, you only have a past BECAUSE you made spontaneous decisions in this moment, which spans off like the ripples in water left behind from a sailing boat, it trails off and off and off into nothing ... you can then sail to the left to go someplace, but do the ripples, left behind from a moving boat, reach all the way back to the place you started? (actually, not just to the place the boat started, but also the pieces used to build the boat, all the way back, so far so to the tree which was once a seed which was eventually cut down to build the boat, and without a Sun, there was no tree, so even further back to the apparent Big Bang,) Go beyond your memories of getting pushed out the vagina, go way back, I insist, ... and even if you could, does it matter? Or does this spontaneous now matter, Do you remember being the first organism to flop out the warm waters and evolve on land, or the sprawling pedals on the first blossoming flower? Or what about the first bee, because without the bee you wouldn't exist to have memories, do you remember that part too?

I'm simply saying the past doesn't exist except for this moment, this is tangible, not the past - I don't think memories work in the courtroom, pretty sure tangible evidence NOW does - So talk and live in your past all you want, see how many people will want to play your silly memory games,

Yes, the question connects with raising one's conciousness - Hence, I mentioned Psycadelics as example, except such substances are cheat codes, and 'super' humans hallusinations as if I'm fine tuning with some mythical higher divinity like Michaelangelo's ceiling painting where Adam reaches for God - Is that a part of my hallusination, too? I mean that's what we're ('I am' or me without ego ...) all doing here, technically ... mind fucks, Anyways, yes, this was my question, as in is it possible, idk, without drugs, to maybe sit and meditate and somehow experience a higher form of conciousness where I'd see a profound connection that everything is indeed me, which is what I experienced on Acid, and it was scary, hence your quote about Leo mention how radical it is to enter into infinity and finally die ... haha *the simpsons meme with the kid on the bus giggling* I prefer gradual, as you mention, I think the amount of mind fuckery would be exhilerating as an ego-human-animal, to absorb infinite love at the flick of a finger, but again, kind of where my question above leads into, if it is possible to alter a sate of mind without substances and more clearly realize I am God, and then to move past the fear of realizing this ,,, or is this state of conciousness I am in now, with all its seperations IT until death, which I don't mind, I think that's how I prefer it, I don't want everything to become radical infinite love, lol, idk exactly what I'm on about, but I do to some degree ... I'm now interested in getting to the last part which has been on my mind for quite some time ... Here you mention that the body doesn't feel pain, but what if I got stabbed, or entered into a car accident? Will this hurt? Will I feel it, and will I be in pain and suffering? Do you think a car crash will be gradual or radical? Or if I knife goes through me, will I feel it and feel fear, or will I surrender into dying and allow it to happen, will I experience lying on the pavement, or will I imagine everything to go black and wake up perhaps in a hospital bed, with some sirens in the distance ... or if I do die, will everything be black - Which I don't think it will do, no one knows the after part I don't think,

@WokeBloke Your past is a fat illusion, your memories aren't even accurate - In this present moment thee experiences sounds, millions of colours, the saliva in your mouth because you haven't brushed in days and compare it with some memory you imagine to recall with ease, which may become recontextualized in a few days time - that memory does not compare to this moment, and you have numerous so called distant memories which are chronic hallusinations in a feeble attempt to prove that you exist as an ego, Give up the act, it's over, we've caught you red handed, bud,

@WokeBloke I think you're asking how as if it is mechanical, like a machine or a car, with bits and pieces - the next step would be to ask why, which makes no sense to ask whatsoever - Whereas Who is the more intimitate form of inquiry

Yes, I contemplated this myself, we're all born at different times and typically all at different ages and unique points of view, however we all share this present moment,

@GreenWoods Did you give up? Haha

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@PurpleTree Yes, an itchiness around the cheeks, somewhat going red, whole body tingles and burns up ... am I explaining shame? I think so, I can imagine it now hahaha

@WokeBloke I can catch on with this; but death, I'm certain, will be the real wake up call, where this dreaming ego cannot go into, which may not be possible to experience while alive and halusinating as your encapsulated ego; therefore yes, "god" may forever evolve into infinity, but not exactly the ego due to its finite limitation, because it wouldn't be life if you had godly superpowers and teleported around the cosmos, so all for good reasons, too, I assume, and so to awaken into infinity one's ego must die ... Although to an extent there are limitations as an ego, I don't know if its possible to awaken so much so one can begin walking on water or moving mountains at a command, or levitating like in a dream ... and I have heard stories from Sadghuru about meeting a native American Indian man who flickered in and out of existence due to some teleportation glitch they'd accidendally slipped himself into ... and I have heard stories where people bend spoons with their minds or spotted monks levitating over farms in Eastern areas ...