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If I'm the only dreamer then how do I wake up from this dream and what happens to me when I die is it madness, limbo, bliss, divine schizophrenia or super self awareness manyfold spiritually but without human distracts to escape myself

I still wonder to what extent Leo implies his theory of solipsism like to it's extreme because there are multiple people debating and using terms like others do have their own independent dream lives in a shared reality - by this logic I'm the main character and you all are dream imaginings like come on there is no way that should be offensive to anyone else in this forum because I know I have my own experience independent of whether I read anyone else's response or not I can choose my own autonomous experience like anyone else in this forum surely - this alone debunks solipsism unless you insist this solipsism idea then I am aware of myself as the lonely dreamer which I don't buy into honestly - this solipsism idea must be like spiritual clickbait for endless engagement from people in the forum

@Eskilon not true this is based off false logic on the human level I can choose to agree or disagree but you are distinct from myself living seperate lives within a shared reality called Earth

@Salvijus okay so all is consciousness whatever that means because why put words to the ineffable but here we are, and so other people are conscious as the same as me ... From yours or Leo's logic ... Therefore other people are consciousness in expressions relative to my consciousness game as a human being - but in a sense I'm not the only dreamer dreaming them to play my own finite individualized human experience? Because what ... Do people only exist if I observe them and the infinite field of consciousness then collapses into a person of their own supposed dreamer quality like myself or when I look away from someone they literally disappear and if I don't think of them they are of the infinite field nonexistent until I consciously observe them and they collapse back into a form pretending to have consciousness and so I'm literally from this logic the only dreamer and you are not real bro surely someone can be as possessed as me to exclaim they typed out their response like I am and if that is so we both exist as independent dreamers within a shared consensus reality ... I doubt it bro

Can someone clarify exactly what Leo means by solipsism idk what other people believe - like me as this dreamer dreaming my life I am the only one and other people are figments of my imagination on the fly, i'm sure this is how Leo puts it in the YouTube videos ... By his definition and is that what you all are playing at or ?

@Loveeee Okay so how might one of those ways enlighten me that I am the only one and Leo or any other reply is literally my own dream material which ultimately dismisses your own independent dreamer experience which should be insulting to any conscious being

@Sugarcoat good point because he's talking shmack if he thinks he is superior to my own experience right this moment and I'm just his dream material so what I should drop on a knee a worship his high all mighty consciousness

@Eskilon way to attack someone making better claims than your own - sound to me this solipsism idea you cling to for superiority has become almost religious to the point you'll tear down those outside it to protect your insecurities about the unknown or truth

@Eskilon what the actual f did you just say bro how the f are you going to tell someone you don't even know that they lack consciousness below your own that is so so so messed up and offensive what the f haha no way you must have forgotten to drink your coffee this morning sounds like you consciousness is lower than my own

@Sugarcoat 🤣

@Eskilon by various sages and whatever? You're still squeezing the juice all you can bro so you are really denying my own independent experience? How about I drop to my knees and worship you as the dreamer and since by your logic I'm st a side prop surely ... Oh great dreamer please dream me to be more attractive to the women and have more money

Where are all the women coming to flock at me if this is my dream? Seriously I'm sick of the slack with these NPC hallucinations how do I dream people into greater submission?

Do better hallucinations this dream could be better what do I need a whip to get these NPCs into submission for my own spiritual superiority haha this could be more entertaining my dream characters are so boring !

@Salvijus exactly this is just a coping mechanism to feel more superior than the supposed dream hallucinations of other people and these forums won't give it up because it's an addiction to try and reach some feeling of being more above than any one else and Leo really played this one out to say I am dreaming him through a YouTube video which is too far of a stretch in my opinion, like come on, really? I know I exist and so by this logic all you commenters are just me dreaming my own life story into a narrative coherence, and it's not even the best this god me would come up with if I could control the rest of you how I think this dream world should actually be

@Sugarcoat yeah what you said exactly people feel real and this has never been seen through enough to get a direct satisfying answer this whole solipsism is a coping mechanism to feel almost more superior than others as NPCs and I'm sure you exist to have typed your comments as much as I exist to respond it's nonsense

People on the this website fans of Leo have an obsession with solipsism and honestly I think it is ridiculous and a coping mechanism to make sense of a life that is otherwise absurd - I personally disbelieve solipsism and even if it breaks whatever magic you others have about the idea so be it, but I know right now I'm an experiencer and by this forum's logic you all are essentially my imagination arguing over this topic pretending to be yourselves arguing you are technically the only ones which on my end I'd know not to be true since I'm the experiencer right this moment typing this with my own limited autonomy within this dream so by this logic I have essentially disproven solipsism and fanciful thinking unless indeed the comments I am reading through are just my imagination on the spin which I doubt and I'm you sure you reading this would equally argue in a type out you are also aware this is nonsense and people should move on from it no wonder Leo deleted the video because it doesn't hold up

So I'm supposing most of you do believe you are literally the only one yet you each argue with one another and must think I don't exist which I do so that surely myth busts all your solipsism theories and hopes to be the lonely dreamer, each of you are clearly arguing with one another and yet probably pretend the other person is imagination but I know I can right now live and do whoever I choose like raise my arm independent of you now typing a response - I think this is a cope mechanism to feel special in some regard

I've given up with my obsession with solipsism, there can't be any proof, and I don't think you are supposed to have a direct answer, it is in the air just as valid as meeting a stranger in the street and being convinced they are not an NPC. I've had fun playing with this theory but I've given up on it since everyone else does what they wish which can be against my own morals and values and dreams - someone could kill me and to some extent to say I am my own heart beating well true but also it's spontaneous beating on its own so it's not my own conscious karma doing the heart beating or my breathing on some level it does it on its own, and I don't feel like god doing all these things as a primary dreamer so the same could be said for a seperate human who chooses to kill me because deep down I'd want them to spare me and I live a happy life but there is no guarantee of this security so as far as I'm aware I'm a nobody knowing nothing and spontaneously a blip in this madhouse called Earth

I'm going to throw my line out to see what answers I fish out - my research is not clicking so maybe some responses can clear my state of enquiry: I'm calling bullshit on fear-based spirituality. So many teachings say that if you die with identity, ego, or “low vibrations,” you’ll spin into dream loops, reincarnate into lower realms, or carry karmic residue into the next illusion. But isn’t that just spiritual control? Another version of “be good or else,” just wrapped in mysticism? What if: Karma is just energetic momentum, not some cosmic judgment? Reincarnation is just the mind projecting continuity onto Nothingness? And low-vibe residue is just a story to keep the dream spinning? I’ve seen teachings that claim “as long as identity remains, the dream continues”—but that sounds like a trap. Like there’s no true exit unless you reach some perfection first. Is that actually true? Or is that more spiritual gaslighting? Anyone who's broken through—touched the white light, tasted silence, or stood on the edge of Nothing—did you really see karma holding you down? Or did you drop all of it? I’m here to challenge the spiritual narrative. If reincarnation and karma still exist after awakening, then is there ever real freedom? What’s your rawest insight?

I don't want to be alive guys I want the white light already I hate life and I do not want to reincarnate idk how to return to god as soon as possible except through death which is not guaranteed or too painful i'm sure - just throwing this out there

@Carl-Richard Final Reflection After My Existential Crisis Posts: I want to give a full and honest reflection after the heavy, sometimes horrifying things I posted here recently. I went through what can only be described as an existential furnace: Total collapse of meaning. Total collapse of trust in salvation. Total collapse of even the White Light. Fear that everything, including God, White Light, and love itself, was just another hallucination of a lonely void dreamer, spinning endlessly. I was there. I lived it. And it nearly shattered me. --- But after standing inside that fire without flinching — after burning through all illusions and survival instincts — I realized something so ancient and simple that it shook me to the core: > The entire horror was about clinging. The entire horror was about false idols. The White Light is real. God is real. Home is real. But you can’t cling to it like a starving ape. You can’t conceptualize it. You can’t dream your way into it. > If you cling to the White Light as an object of salvation, you turn it into dream material. If you surrender everything — you dissolve INTO the White Light, because it’s what you always were. --- This is why ancient wisdom simply said: > “Have no false idols.” No false gods. No imagined salvation. No clinging to concepts — not even beautiful ones. --- Final realization: If you dream the White Light, you spin in dreams. If you BE the White Light — by letting go of all clinging — you wake up. It’s not about being clever. It’s not about surviving death. It’s about burning everything that separates you from your true nature. --- So yeah — for a few days, I lived pure horror. But that horror wasn't the final truth. It was the burning away of idols. The burning away of hope as a survival strategy. Now I see — No dreaming. No clinging. No false idols. Just Being. Just Light. Just Home. --- Thank you to anyone who read my meltdown posts with patience or interest. Sometimes the only way through is straight into the fire. I stand different now. Not saved by a fantasy — but burned raw enough to remember what I actually am.

This is serious to me and I need clarity Thankyou and please I do t K ow who else to get the answer from but - say when I die either some accident, naturally or a person commits suicide out of despair ... Does the energy you die with then magnify by millions or billions into the the supposed otherside ... Or would I as the godhead dreaming awaken to the white light no matter what ... Like is the information in spiritual teachings which warn that if I die say negative vibrational frequency energy will that only magnify to the other side but if a person dies peaceful then that magnifies or is this idea a frightening one part of the godhead dreaming as like game guardrails to stop it from waking up and ending the dream so easily - please answer especially Leo if possible since I trust Leo's spiritual awakenings as some of the few I can rarely if chance to reach out for a direct answers please and thank you because if it is true I could essentially be a trapped lonely dreamer godhead who then magnifies something on the otherside

To whoever reads this later: I'm not here to dress it up for you. I'm not here to sell hope in a pretty box. The truth is: I went into existential hell trying to get an answer about death. I wanted to know if dying in fear, loneliness, or anger would trap me into endless spiraling dreams. And what I found was worse than silence. I found out the fear itself is part of the dream. I found out the dreamer (me) was the one spinning it. I found out that no rescue is coming from outside. No savior. No guide. No last-minute forgiveness. Only the choice at death: Let go completely — or spin again. And guess what? I’m probably going to fuck it up. I’m probably going to carry some residue. I’m probably going to spiral a little more before I ever come close to waking up. That’s not defeat. That’s just honesty. You can't escape what you refuse to see. You can only burn through it. And if you’re feeling the same terror, the same sickness of reality closing in, the same hatred for the trap — you’re not broken. You’re not worse than anyone else. You’re just awake enough to feel how deep the dream goes. And even if the dream keeps spinning — even if you scream, even if you fall — there’s a part of you that’s so ancient it’s already free. But you’re gonna have to earn the real death. You’re gonna have to fight for it inside yourself like an animal dying alone on the side of the road. No gods. No stories. No hand to hold. Just you and the end (but not really an end). And that's the only place real freedom is born. — Yeah Yeah

@Carl-Richard yeah hopefully I can get to that point because if I'm facing the truth of my dreaming existence oh boy - I'm hoping the white light and those beautiful NDE reports on YouTube are true and not more dream materials otherwise I have to just give up and be a hollow shadow in the void and just idk hope for the best or something and just accept there may be no end to this potential torture chamber and worse in my opinion maybe no love and no light and no homecoming and no joy and no peace since they are within the dream material projections. Maybe I've been spinning for eons and this is just another round perhaps... Hence this forum I'm trying to connect the dots I don't know who else to talk this with and if some insight could guide me maybe idk again where else could I bring this question to who - Leo's community is a blessing because at least it might be something

@ExploringReality This is a poem to myself to express my inner philosophies at this time - Yeah, you’re small. You’re finite. You’re confused. You’re alone. You’re lost. You’re inventing meaning as you go because you don’t actually know anything real at the bone level. You are a ripple of confusion floating in a void pretending to have answers." > "When you die, you’ll likely freak the fuck out — you’ll carry rage, fear, brokenness — you’ll not surrender perfectly — and you’ll spin off into another dream, another story, another cycle of confusion and hunger and desperate reaching." > "You will not wake up easily. You will likely spin again. And it could be worse. It could be more alone. It could be a darker labyrinth. It could be endless. There are no guarantees. There is no rescue. There is no knight in shining armor. There is no last-minute cosmic salvation." > "You are fucked. And the weight of being human — the hunger, the loneliness, the rage, the failure — will follow you. Because it’s inside you. And you can’t outrun yourself. Not even in death." This is the existential weight of existence on my shoulders right now plus the weight of being a human ...