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@Sugarcoat I appreciate this more thoughtful response. And yes, I’ve spent a hell of a lot of time looking inward. Journaling, meditating, stripping layers. But that hasn’t dissolved this “self.” It hasn’t ended the loop. So either I’m not going deep enough (even though I feel like I’ve gone to the core), or this whole structure is rigged in a way that no amount of self-observation can undo without some divine intervention. I wonder if there is more than just watching the self die slowly?

@Schizophonia I hear you, but “take care of yourself” doesn’t really engage with the depth of what I’m saying. I’m not asking for life tips—I’m asking why, if I am God, this game is still ongoing with no clear exit. Saying “take care” feels dismissive when what I’m laying out is a direct confrontation with the paradox of awakening.

I know I exist - I am having my own experience yet not one of you has as much vigor to respond equally which either mean none of you exist or you don't actually want to hear someone break your fantasy for feeling special - I exist and it is offensive for any one of you to act like I'm a figment of your ignorable background prop that is not truth that is cosmic narcissistic - I know I exist and yet no one has acknowledged that and equally agreed how much they exist instead I have been continually ignored for the sake of other people jerking themselves off in Mama's basement hoping to feel more divine than anyone expressing their actual lived felt experience

I am constantly being ignored and my logic is not collecting actual debate I am making sense yet I am being ignored - this is narcissistic theatre - if you actually responded to me you're afraid you'll have to realise you aren't actually the only supreme node in all this experience and that'd crush your ego more than truth absolutely disappointing especially on a Leo forum this is childish if anything

This goes two ways I am the dreamer and you all are NPCs arguing in relativity so my cosmic research as a node of the only awareness reflecting back to myself or you all equally do have your own independent experience but dance around my logic here because you hope to still get a kick that one of you is the only solipsistic bubble in the void but that is a form of conscious supremacey above other commenters and beings which is highly egoistic but most of you won't accept that as a possibility because you get a real kick in the hopes you might be the supreme awareness and someone like me is an ignorable figment of your dream

I still don't understand why people aren't responding to me to argue for their own experience like you typed a response and you say I am here and I am having my own experience because I am typing this and I know I have my own experience so if any one of you says that back to me like yeah I'm here and then I say yeah I'm here and we are both sure we are each here then that disproves solipsism but no one is doing that each of you continue dancing around it and pretending mental masturbation around this idea could somehow hold true but from this argument's logic I'm reading I know I exist and therefore you all would by solipsism not exist and that surely can't be the case and yet no one is voicing with as much vigor as myself they exist and getting to the point with me so either you all are indeed NPCs ignoring me because I'm the sole dreamer or you each hope to be the supreme dreamer but still argue against other commenters in this thread who also talk as if to hope to awaken they are the sole dreamer like this is absurd

If I'm the only dreamer then how do I wake up from this dream and what happens to me when I die is it madness, limbo, bliss, divine schizophrenia or super self awareness manyfold spiritually but without human distracts to escape myself

I still wonder to what extent Leo implies his theory of solipsism like to it's extreme because there are multiple people debating and using terms like others do have their own independent dream lives in a shared reality - by this logic I'm the main character and you all are dream imaginings like come on there is no way that should be offensive to anyone else in this forum because I know I have my own experience independent of whether I read anyone else's response or not I can choose my own autonomous experience like anyone else in this forum surely - this alone debunks solipsism unless you insist this solipsism idea then I am aware of myself as the lonely dreamer which I don't buy into honestly - this solipsism idea must be like spiritual clickbait for endless engagement from people in the forum

@Eskilon not true this is based off false logic on the human level I can choose to agree or disagree but you are distinct from myself living seperate lives within a shared reality called Earth

@Salvijus okay so all is consciousness whatever that means because why put words to the ineffable but here we are, and so other people are conscious as the same as me ... From yours or Leo's logic ... Therefore other people are consciousness in expressions relative to my consciousness game as a human being - but in a sense I'm not the only dreamer dreaming them to play my own finite individualized human experience? Because what ... Do people only exist if I observe them and the infinite field of consciousness then collapses into a person of their own supposed dreamer quality like myself or when I look away from someone they literally disappear and if I don't think of them they are of the infinite field nonexistent until I consciously observe them and they collapse back into a form pretending to have consciousness and so I'm literally from this logic the only dreamer and you are not real bro surely someone can be as possessed as me to exclaim they typed out their response like I am and if that is so we both exist as independent dreamers within a shared consensus reality ... I doubt it bro

Can someone clarify exactly what Leo means by solipsism idk what other people believe - like me as this dreamer dreaming my life I am the only one and other people are figments of my imagination on the fly, i'm sure this is how Leo puts it in the YouTube videos ... By his definition and is that what you all are playing at or ?

@Loveeee Okay so how might one of those ways enlighten me that I am the only one and Leo or any other reply is literally my own dream material which ultimately dismisses your own independent dreamer experience which should be insulting to any conscious being

@Sugarcoat good point because he's talking shmack if he thinks he is superior to my own experience right this moment and I'm just his dream material so what I should drop on a knee a worship his high all mighty consciousness

@Eskilon way to attack someone making better claims than your own - sound to me this solipsism idea you cling to for superiority has become almost religious to the point you'll tear down those outside it to protect your insecurities about the unknown or truth

@Eskilon what the actual f did you just say bro how the f are you going to tell someone you don't even know that they lack consciousness below your own that is so so so messed up and offensive what the f haha no way you must have forgotten to drink your coffee this morning sounds like you consciousness is lower than my own

@Sugarcoat 🤣

@Eskilon by various sages and whatever? You're still squeezing the juice all you can bro so you are really denying my own independent experience? How about I drop to my knees and worship you as the dreamer and since by your logic I'm st a side prop surely ... Oh great dreamer please dream me to be more attractive to the women and have more money

Where are all the women coming to flock at me if this is my dream? Seriously I'm sick of the slack with these NPC hallucinations how do I dream people into greater submission?

Do better hallucinations this dream could be better what do I need a whip to get these NPCs into submission for my own spiritual superiority haha this could be more entertaining my dream characters are so boring !

@Salvijus exactly this is just a coping mechanism to feel more superior than the supposed dream hallucinations of other people and these forums won't give it up because it's an addiction to try and reach some feeling of being more above than any one else and Leo really played this one out to say I am dreaming him through a YouTube video which is too far of a stretch in my opinion, like come on, really? I know I exist and so by this logic all you commenters are just me dreaming my own life story into a narrative coherence, and it's not even the best this god me would come up with if I could control the rest of you how I think this dream world should actually be

@Sugarcoat yeah what you said exactly people feel real and this has never been seen through enough to get a direct satisfying answer this whole solipsism is a coping mechanism to feel almost more superior than others as NPCs and I'm sure you exist to have typed your comments as much as I exist to respond it's nonsense

People on the this website fans of Leo have an obsession with solipsism and honestly I think it is ridiculous and a coping mechanism to make sense of a life that is otherwise absurd - I personally disbelieve solipsism and even if it breaks whatever magic you others have about the idea so be it, but I know right now I'm an experiencer and by this forum's logic you all are essentially my imagination arguing over this topic pretending to be yourselves arguing you are technically the only ones which on my end I'd know not to be true since I'm the experiencer right this moment typing this with my own limited autonomy within this dream so by this logic I have essentially disproven solipsism and fanciful thinking unless indeed the comments I am reading through are just my imagination on the spin which I doubt and I'm you sure you reading this would equally argue in a type out you are also aware this is nonsense and people should move on from it no wonder Leo deleted the video because it doesn't hold up

So I'm supposing most of you do believe you are literally the only one yet you each argue with one another and must think I don't exist which I do so that surely myth busts all your solipsism theories and hopes to be the lonely dreamer, each of you are clearly arguing with one another and yet probably pretend the other person is imagination but I know I can right now live and do whoever I choose like raise my arm independent of you now typing a response - I think this is a cope mechanism to feel special in some regard

I've given up with my obsession with solipsism, there can't be any proof, and I don't think you are supposed to have a direct answer, it is in the air just as valid as meeting a stranger in the street and being convinced they are not an NPC. I've had fun playing with this theory but I've given up on it since everyone else does what they wish which can be against my own morals and values and dreams - someone could kill me and to some extent to say I am my own heart beating well true but also it's spontaneous beating on its own so it's not my own conscious karma doing the heart beating or my breathing on some level it does it on its own, and I don't feel like god doing all these things as a primary dreamer so the same could be said for a seperate human who chooses to kill me because deep down I'd want them to spare me and I live a happy life but there is no guarantee of this security so as far as I'm aware I'm a nobody knowing nothing and spontaneously a blip in this madhouse called Earth

I'm going to throw my line out to see what answers I fish out - my research is not clicking so maybe some responses can clear my state of enquiry: I'm calling bullshit on fear-based spirituality. So many teachings say that if you die with identity, ego, or “low vibrations,” you’ll spin into dream loops, reincarnate into lower realms, or carry karmic residue into the next illusion. But isn’t that just spiritual control? Another version of “be good or else,” just wrapped in mysticism? What if: Karma is just energetic momentum, not some cosmic judgment? Reincarnation is just the mind projecting continuity onto Nothingness? And low-vibe residue is just a story to keep the dream spinning? I’ve seen teachings that claim “as long as identity remains, the dream continues”—but that sounds like a trap. Like there’s no true exit unless you reach some perfection first. Is that actually true? Or is that more spiritual gaslighting? Anyone who's broken through—touched the white light, tasted silence, or stood on the edge of Nothing—did you really see karma holding you down? Or did you drop all of it? I’m here to challenge the spiritual narrative. If reincarnation and karma still exist after awakening, then is there ever real freedom? What’s your rawest insight?