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Infinity includes the finite, it has no end, no beginning, and it is infinitely a mystery to itself.

You’re right, I don’t, this is what science has told me and I blindly parroted what they said.

If god is infinite, that would mean there will always be something new created or to become conscious of, and that new thing would be the unconscious coming into consciousness. the unconscious is what hasn’t manifested yet.

You can still make logical sense of consciousness like leo does, but that logic is translogic which they’re unable to understand or accept, Ultimately everything is obvious and nothing is hidden, and those defending science in its current form, logic ( not referring to trans logic) , religion and ideology, are refusing to look at the truth, because of their corruption, selfishness, double standards, Devilry, and ignorance. the truth of their situation and what they’re doing is too ugly to look at, so they just look the other way.

Where did I say that? All I said was that the very reason you’re conscious right now because of the existence of unconscious, you will always need the unconscious to know the conscious but your post says that you don’t need the unconscious anymore and that’s false, they’re 2 sides of the same coin.

My point is, it isn’t that hard to figure out logic from illogic, and they way they describe the human body and its function isn’t logical at all, and yet, they’re still loyal to logic

Fine, my point is still valid even if the heart gets better with more usage or exercise, that is illogical, things get old the more you use them is what logic says, maybe the way reality is ran is illogical, but the issue here would be that we’re still defending a powerful system that has a lot of money, power and influence, even though it’s very base ( logic) isn’t valid to get to the truth, and that’s my problem, if the base the whole building will collapse eventually, and the whole point was to show a few of science believes that are in this forum the sorta of systems they’re defending blindly, which leads to my point, if they know that it’s illogical for something to get better after more usage, why are they still loyal to logic?

They do say that being athletic will make you live longer. look up how to live longer, any doctor or scientist Will tell you to be more athletic and that athleticism is healthy

I’m referring to one specific organ which is the heart, what science says is, the more you exercise, the more it’s efficient, which I agree, but I don’t agree that over using it will make you live longer, and yes professional athletes are overusing their heart , I could be wrong , but if I am wrong, the answer would have to be illogical, because strictly looking at it logically it’s impossible for something to get better over time by using it more, compare anything in the universe, give me one logical explanation of anything living or non living that, the more you use it, the newer it gets.

This is like the 3rd time I say that this point is valid, but my point or question was, how does overusing something makes it live longer? Is that logical? If you look at it purely logically, you’ll soon realize it doesn’t make any logical sense, our logic tells us the more we use something the faster it gets old or die. there might be an illogical answer to this, I’m not really sure. I’m not loyal to logic, scientists and our current systems are. if there’s in illogical answer, I don’t know how we’re still defending and are loyal to logic and science as it is done today.

Good luck to you as well.

The matter is simple, you really don’t need all these graphs or paragraphs, I already said the point that the system will be more efficient is valid, but my question is how does over using your heart make it live longer?? to answer that question we have to know what aging is, what causes something to age faster? It’s not time, because time doesn’t exist in the real world what makes someone/ something age is the amount of work and energy it has expenditured, If you compare a celebrity with a normal person that’s been working physical jobs his whole life, even tho they’re both 50 years old, the guy that doe’s physical labor looks 75 while the celebrity looks 30, and I know you’re gonna say oh that’s just stress and lifestyle, and diet but the truth is the person that puts out more energy is the one that’s gonna age faster. ALSO, stop assuming you can’t compare a living organic being to a mechanical machine. After all we’re all made of the same atoms according to science.

The question still stands how does over using something make it live longer? If you don’t have a logical answer with words, not graphs or weird terminology that no one knows about, Please , stop replying to this post.

Oneness includes manyness, infinity includes the finite, you can’t escape duality, you wouldn’t even type this post about opposites if you didn’t know opposites 😂

The more we are sensitive to pleasure, the more we’re sensitive to pain, if you lower that sensitivity, suffering ceases to exist, the more money and power you want/ the more responsibility/ accountability you gonna take, in this way the universe is fair.

I’m not loyal to logic But science in its current form is , so I’m just using their language so we can understand each other if you have an illogical explanation of why over using something makes it last longer by all means go ahead, enlighten me

We already get enough exercise from :- walking carrying groceries standing Various social activities the problem with most people today is high diet foods, but this is off topic. I’m asking you one simple question and if you can’t answer it please stop responding to this post, I want a simple logical answer to my simple logical question how does over using a thing makes it live longer ?? the logical answer would be, the more you use something the older it gets the sooner it will die I’m specifically referring to the heart here, sure exercise will protect your organs from diseases and make you more functional, this is not my point, get over this point, My point is that the more you exercise the more your heart has to work which means it will age sooner than it should which means you’ll die age and die sooner. there is no such a thing is reverse aging or making something work harder to live longer, this notion is not logical.

That’s off my point, you guys keep going broad and ignore going deep, how does over using a thing like your heart make it last longer? things age the more you use them, and rust if you don’t use them at all, which means that yes its unhealthy to not do any activity , but the other extreme would be athleticism will equally make you die faster.

The simplest and most obvious example is this:- the claim be science is that the more you exercise the longer you will live because they only consider this problem with one aspect which is the aspect of disease and functionality, Not taking into account the thing we call aging, and what I’m saying here is the more you use a thing the more it ages.

Yes I agree that being active will make the body stronger and run smoother, but making it you live longer that I don’t agree with, also there are other things that also matter, like your diet, being skinny with a perfect diet and low body mass will probably have you live longer than an athlete with more mass, but none of this disproves my position.

One of the most concerning thing about how science is done today is that they think in a linear/broad fashion, and they ignore the aspect of depth , let alone get to a point of merging the broad with the deep to get into the 3rd dimension which is where non-duality starts to become a reality for them.

@undeather what you’re trying to say that is that your body or the thing becomes stronger and more efficient with exercise and I agree on that point like I said above, but that comes with a cost, and the cost is due to everything working so efficiently, even tho the body might not die from a disease, nevertheless it will age faster, and that’s the point I’m trying to make, if you overuse it, it will die sooner, maybe not from disease, but from overuse and old age.

Nice graph, although it doesn’t say anything, I just asked a simple Logical question, how does over using a thing make it last longer? you claim to be logical, if you are, answer this simple question with LOGIC. You don’t have to use fancy words or fancy graphs just to look like you know what you’re talking about.

Pain/ suffering is the other side of bliss, just like how form is the other face of the formless, they emerge together and are one and the same, this is the very design of the universe/reality.