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It could just be an issue with boomers, if you think of the cultural and technical revolutions that have occured during their adult years its actually incredible, so there is a massive difference between them and say millennials or gen z in the way they think. This isnt to say its all of them but I think it would take a lot to keep evolving and understand the new generations. Also things like the way we talk and understand mental health, which was almost non-existent in their times. Of course this is always an issue in terms of older generation being able to relate to younger generations, but I think it just seems more pronounced now because of the changes in society, whereas the last few hundred years there have been changes, but if you look even from 1990 til now its only 35 years but the world is completely different, im not sure that rapid a change has ever been seen before.
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Some guys but I really feel in that instance it's just using someone's body to masturbate. If I don't feel like they really want me that's off putting
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@Breakingthewall yeah exactly, global issues, i was going to mention covid as well but i was just focusing on the immediate global issues. Either way this is nothing to do with inflation being directly caused by any president, it's more to do with how it's dealt with, I would argue Biden dealt with inflation really well. Trump blames inflation on the dems which is just not true
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Inflation was due to the Ukraine war (energy reliance on Russia), covid and other global issues, every country was affected and it wouldnt have mattered who the president was, the US wouldve still felt the affects. What was positive is that these global were handled the best by the US out of every other western country, record breaking stock market highs, lowest inflation of all the other countries. So essentially the US was in the best place it could be. What Trump is good at is misleading his audience with effective messaging that leaves out important context. So he was able to convince the voters that the economy was terrible, it was only good with him (he inherited Obamas economy in his first term) and that he would save it and America, all of it is not true but sounds good and got him elected. The real threat to the US is him, Musk, project 25 etc, because his plan is to enrich himself and his friends at the expense of the everyday person. Ive noticed his supporters give him the benefit of the doubt no matter what and assume that he is just a radical and is using different tactics to shake up things, nope. Bringing in things like tariffs and creating a completely unnecessary trade war is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen a leader do and its not 3d chess. I thought this is interesting and relevant, its called basic law and assumes humans fall into 4 categories - 1. If Tom takes an action and suffers a loss while producing a gain to Dick, Tom's mark will fall in field H: Tom acted helplessly. 2. If Tom takes an action by which he makes a gain while yielding a gain also to Dick, Tom's mark will fall in area I: Tom acted intelligently. 3. If Tom takes an action by which he makes a gain causing Dick a loss, Tom's mark will fall in area B: Tom acted as a bandit. 4. A stupid person is a person who caused losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses. Really you want a leader to act like 2 because you want everyone to win, its not always possible on a large scale but at least the most amount of people. For sure Trump does not act this way, not only because of America 1st but because of how he treats the other side ie people that dont support him, he doesnt care about them. His supporters want him to act as 3 the bandit, which he does for the most part if he can get it right but a lot of the time he doesnt get it right which means he actually acts like 1 when being subservient to Putin, creating a loss for public perception of him as well as trust amongst allies while giving a huge benefit to Putin. If he was getting paid or some other benefit from Putin it would make him a bandit, but he would still be creating a loss for the whole of the world bar him and Russia, which obviously is not great. Theres also the argument that a lot of his actions fall in the stupid category, as I mentioned tariffs, most likely are not going to help either side and so creates negative outcomes for everyone. The 3d chess would be if he was deliberately trying to crash the economy maybe so he and his rich friends could buy it up. So to summarise, hes either incredibly stupid or incredibly devious, I dont see any other possibilities.
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Being single >>>> being with the wrong person
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Jason Wilson is one of the best representations of healthy masculinity that I've seen
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Imo it's most likely he's working for Russia for some reason, because as you say if he was a Russian asset he'd pretty much be doing the same things he's doing now. However, I think another possibility could be he wants to look like a hero and sort out all these problems in the world and make America a great country, but he's just very dumb and doesn't understand how complicated these issues actually are. If you line that up with how he dealt with Zel, he got annoyed because he wanted to be the one stop this war as he promised but Zel was not playing ball and he knew what Putin needed to stop it. The tarifs line up with this as well because they are easy to implement and don't need to voted in or anything. He doesn't seem to understand them and could genuinely believe that he's taxing foreign countries and will make money from it. Same with Musk cutting every department. Trump wants to be a saviour. It could also be a mix of both so he could have done a deal aligning with Russia and believing that that would give him even more power. But tbh anything could be true at this point.
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Wars are very expensive and in general western or advanced nations don't want to engage in them simply because of this. There has to be some kind of pay off and as you can even see with Ukraine there probably isnt going to be much for Russia. Trump starting a war with Europe, Mexico or Canada would be insane, not saying impossible. But surely even some republicans would be against it. At the very least 50% of the population would be passionately against it. He could still do it bit I think only the maga cult and loyalists would be behind him
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If you look at Trumps business history, the only real way he's made money is by selling his name, Trump steaks, Trump university, Trump buildings etc etc. If he has a skill it's marketing his name to make it seem valuable so that someone with a business will happily pay him to use it and supposedly increase sales. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's a disaster just depends on the company behind it. But the point is Trump doesn't give a fuck whether its successful or whether it's against any principles that he doesn't even have, he just cares that he makes money. He's endorsed mlms before for example. This model is essentially what he does in politics just on a much larger scale, essentially he's for sale, this is why people like Putin, Musk etc were over the moon and definitely in Musk's case, funded him into the white house because it meant they now had easy access to power. Even Vance was Peter Thiel choice for VP. Trump has no morals or principles, he knows how to market, he knows how to enrapture an audience and he's able to leverage this and sell it to the highest bidder. Do you think he really cares about gaza or Ukraine, he only sees the leverage he can get from siding with certain players, which he's obviously done.
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If the US truly backs someone and gets them out of jail time who has a public course teaching men how to pimp women and has a mountain of evidence against him, I think its a new low for America. Especially given the hypocrisy in that the christian right make such a big deal about kids being influenced by lgbtq issues or grooming gangs or whatever and then to literally celebrate a self confessed groomer, is so lost.
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I think how you dealt with your agency business shows that you had some integrity and some understanding of the damage it could do. I mean it still was exploitative but I think 'falling in love' with girls only to do webcam is bottom of the barrell so something must've held you back from doing that. Also I think it's very commendable to get out of something that was paying your bills because of your own principles and realisation. I have followed the tate case and I actually heard about him pre 2019, I had a brief period of mgtow content but then pulled back when I saw the extremes it went to, Tate being one of them. But I think if I was younger I definitely would've fell into that trap fully, it's easy to say as an older person how could you fall for it, but when you're young it makes a lot of sense, also Tate seems like a manipulator so he knows how to get you hooked. What I wanted to ask was did you have any direct contact with him and how did that go and what did you make of him?
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This is what I was gonna say, even if you book a table at a restaurant and are late 15 mins it's within the accepted time for them to hold it for you. I actually think is was quite courteous to tell you an hour before so that you don't have to go and wait needlessly, this obviously shows care on her part. Then the blocking her is way over the top. I think what's happening which you won't accept of course, is that you've watched content around this and have put yourself as the 'prize' and set basically impossible standards on the women that you meet. The paradox is that in pretending to be confident and emulating what you think that looks like, you're actually coming across very insecure. So uli would suggest working on your inner game as a priority
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Is this solid proof that Trumps a Russian asset? Not that it's not obvious anyway but this is pretty concrete now right?
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What are these threads πππ
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I'm gonna link a video below from the cut about situationships as an example. I'm going to speak about myself personally here as a way to get a bit more internal clarity. So I find myself falling into situationships, it's almost by default and I wonder why that is. What I mean by that is I enjoy obviously having a sexual relationship with someone, I enjoy them loving me and I love them as well and like doing things with them, even travelling etc but when it comes to the full commitment or steps moving forward like moving in, I don't want to do it. I'm honest about this with them so it's not like I'm saying I want to marry them etc but we get stuck in this limbo. Now I've come up with some reasons for this, one is a bit self-indulgent but it's I have an avoidant attachment type, which makes sense and because of my childhood, parenting, not seeing healthy romantic relationships it does make sense and is probably a factor. Another is I just haven't met someone who I really liked and they really liked me. Every situation has been outweighed where, although I've been very attracted to them, they seemingly love me more than I love them, in that they would be willing to settle down with me, whereas I'm hesitant. I could see a world where if this was more aligned I'd be more inclined to settle down. When I look at the partners I had in retrospect it probably wouldn't have been ideal to settle down with them, not that they were bad, we just didnt match on some key stuff. Third is that I prize attraction above compatability. This has some truth to it as well. Attraction is definitely important but I don't think it can be the sole foundation of a relationship. The thing is great sex is really hard to let go, but it's so difficult building a relationship from that. So the dilemma I have is that is that situationships obviously feel I need of sex and companionships but they can be seen as unfair on the other side if the other side wants more, which is usually the case. It also limits both parties from finding a much more fuller, compatible relationship. On the flip though, what are you supposed to do to fulfill those needs if either you don't want a full blown relationship right now, or just haven't come across the right person yet? Also what if you're not really into one night stands which don't actually fulfill your needs very well anyway? Should you literally just abstain till you find the right person.
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This gets a bit complicated though, cos say you have a butch lesbian who actually looks and presents as a guy but is still female and hasnt undergone any treatment or surgery, should they use the female bathroom? Are we just deciding who looks female 'enough' to use the womens bathroom, its not an easy answer tbh
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Ooh OK yeah that's a bit naughty π But I guess it's the same as if I was just having sex with someone with no intention of a relationship. Or I dunno do you think it's on the same level? That's good, sounds like you've made great progress friendship wise. Tbh I think it is difficult to have a purely platonic but really close friendship between a man and woman, not impossible, but usually one side likes the other and wants more whether it's sex or a relationship. Also what I've noticed is if I do have a female friend I'm not really attracted to, as soon as they get a partner they're gone. That's really good, I feel the same in terms of being my authentic self, def wasn't easy but I can relate to what you're saying. Dam π for real though sometimes there's too much synchronicity for it to be a coincidence, seems like it anyway. That's really cool though cos the parent blocks are the toughest, sounds like you're doing really well
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Yeah I see this a lot, most girls I know, either dating or friends, always have some guys that are happy to give them attention in the hope that one day they'll see how great they are and suddenly be attracted to them. If it's someone I'm dating and for whatever reason I meet the guy, they automatically hate me lol. But I would say this is more a friendzone thing just because the no sex situation or it could be just a level above friendship maybe. On the flip I think the equivalent of the friend zone for women is the fuckzone. In both the person isn't really getting what they want but they still stick around regardless, which is what you're talking about in terms of self-respect. Yeah 100% I think I've made progress with it tbh, I used to be avoidant in both relationships and friendships lol definitely better with friendships, I'm actually surprised at the progress and relationships are improving as well but a bit slower. Do you feel like you've cleared your traumatic blocks?
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Nah why, does it sound like that?
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But whys that an issue as long as you're honest about it?
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@LastThursday Thanks for your perspective When I say love me more that's not really detrimental to them, if anything it could be to me if I find it hard to let those emotions in or if I'm staying with and selecting partners that have this dynamic. But I like what you say about is it 'good enough' for both sides, that resonates and when you really think about its mind blowing the different dynamics that can happen between different people, to get all of that in sync is very difficult Yeah this is one thing I kinda overshoot on, I put all the responsibility on myself as if they're not also an active participant that is getting some of their needs met. No one has ever said I've manipulated them into it either, if anything I've probably been a bit too straight forward with the truth. So that's something I need to relax a bit on. I guess a situationship can be a bit of relationship people can feel stuck in or can stunt growth a bit because you're getting some needs met but you can't fully relax into it, there's always an elephant in the room Probably true π Yeah this is true, I have met girls before and just kinda liked them instantly, but for one reason or another it didn't really work out. I do think it's worth not forcing things and just letting things flow naturally Why do you say it's depravity?
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πππ I believe you I've seen it myself, but I dunno I just couldn't do it at some point a wank just makes more sense
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I don't actually agree with this, we want attention from women we find attractive but imagine if unattractive to you women, older women etc were aggressively hitting on you daily, people that you work with or family friends, whoever. It's extremely uncomfortable, it might be flattering once in a while but daily would be hell. It hasn't happened to me daily but it has happened and I honestly didn't like it, if I have no intention of wanting to sleep with them, it's just a complete inconvenience at best. There's a group of women that I interact with because of let's say a social club and I know they're attracted to me and they are attractive but they have partners. In all honesty it is flattering but also a bit awkward, I wouldn't change cos it's a nice ego boost and it's not that much of an issue but if you extrapolate that to multiple situations I don't think it's something you'd really want. But then on the flip having no one attracted to you is probably worse. Point is I think men think it's all roses and you'll just fuck everyone given the chance but it's not as clear cut as that
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I think there is almost a jealousy amongst men because in essence women have such an abundance of sexual options that they can even sell the idea of you being with them, whereas a lot of men might have trouble attracting even one woman. So its like the pain of wanting something so bad and not being able to have it or just having it these very transactional ways. On the flip women might have trouble getting a good man who actually loves them for them and not their physical assets. Ultimately both sides do want love but i think a lot of the time this dynamic prevents it from happening, its difficult cos if you think about it biologically this is what is supposed to happen, men are supposed to be horny bastards and try impregnate as many women as possible and women are supposed to only select the best men with the best genetics they can, what weve done as a society is find a way where men can have the feeling of having sex with many women without actually doing it, through porn. Women in this case have found a way to monetise it, actually it was always monetised just more by men previously. Women can also have access to higher value men through social media or dating apps. I wonder if this is just the logical conclusion to techno-capitalisms affect on dating