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He only hangs around with other well known feminists like this guy below, i think theyre at some kind of feminist convention, pointing out the women that have contributed to the feminist cause - Fun fact he doesnt want to declassify the epstein files -

Hes like a broken Kennedy, has the charisma and fights for something but its just completely skewed. I also find it interesting none of his family, both the Kennedys and his wife, agree with him at all - 'In response to RFK Jr's announcement, his brothers and sisters shared a statement, saying: "We want an America filled with hope and bound together by a shared vision of a brighter future, a future defined by individual freedom, economic promise and national pride. Advertisement "We believe in Harris and Walz. "Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father and our family hold most dear. "It is a sad ending to a sad story."' https://news.sky.com/story/robert-f-kennedy-jr-endorses-donald-trump-and-drops-out-of-presidential-race-13201857

Devils are good at what they do which is manipulating, its happened all throughout history. It goes like this - Trump is red, he manipulates blue by convincing them hes also blue (trump bibles etc). The people that vote for him are convinced he has their best interests at heart and will do what they think needs to be done, but really he doesnt care about their interests, he just needs to know what they are to exploit them. Hitler didnt care about the well being of his citizens, he cared about world domination, which is why he had no problem sacrificing millions of them to get to his goal, but they still voted for him.

They get in power because they have no morals or higher values, so they're willing to do what someone with those traits won't do. For example Trump is happy to consistently lie and stoke fear and hate, whereas others won't do it at least to the level that he does. This works short term but doesn't end well as you can see from other massive devil's that get power

Do you really believe this is the dems main focus for their campaign?

Trumps been courting RFK for a while, wouldnt surprise if trumps paid him off or offered him some kind of position or promised to further his anti-vaxx agenda. Reminds of the succession storyline where Connor Roy was running and he got paid off to drop out.

Thats pretty accurate

Realistically the only difference is power. There are undertones or even overt tones of being 'native english' and this is somehow superior. To say whether he would genocide or go to the extremes of nazism, I mean I don't think so, but people probably didn't think that of early nazis either so who knows

This one is nuts as well, wiretap convos between the tate bros, Andrew telling tristan to get her pregnant and kick her out, about one of their workers. The Akido thing is insane, these people are literally brainwashed, I'm curious what they're gonna do when their lord and saviour goes down

Left policies generally aim to help more people overall. Right focuses more on individual success. As people become more conscious and move to healthy orange and above I think they will go more left. This is evident in terms of when people get more educated, more aware, they tend to go more left. At their core, right is more about fear, they want to conserve things and don't want things to change. Left is more hopeful and idealistic that change can bring a better outcome. Now to be sure, there are excesses and pitfalls of both sides, too much change too quickly could definitely disrupt society. Or regressing to a romanticised past can also mess up progress. So I think what we're seeing is a shift to the left because of increased consciousness level, however this is nothing new. The right today would probably seem left 60 years ago to the right at that time. So these polarities are not static, they continue moving left over time. Provably the left of today will be the conservatives of tomorrow.

A lot of Republicans turning on Trump with speeches at the DNC. Messaging is really good with the 'Country First' messaging

Tate released after the 24 hours. Its so crazy to me that people are still defending this guy, hes literally on camera admitting to everything hes being accused of. Whats worse is that a lot of the people defending him are anti-establishment and think every rich person is a pedophile but theyre literally protecting a sex trafficker who most likely was in a relationship with a 15 year old who worked for him

Lol I was thinking that it's basically rape if it works like that

I'm more than open to changing my mind and I'm not expecting you to agree. But if you are going to engage you have to come with an argument and some evidence. Your argument in your first post was something along the lines of "two tier policing exists and everyone on the UK knows it". Do you get how this isn't really a good argument? Also I haven't passively expected anything, I've presented numerous arguments that you haven't actually addressed. If you just want to say 'I'm going to have my opinion no matter what you say' then fair enough but obviously there's not gonna be any discussion. For example we could debate the idea that everyone believes that Tommy Robinson is a hero or that my opinion is a minority. Would a poll of people from the UK asking then what they think about the riots be a good way to judge this? Luckily that exists, from yougov - 14% strongly support the riots 75% strongly oppose the unrest at the riots 1 in 8 Britons say riots we're justified 74% blame far right groups for the riots 19% have a positive opinion of tommy robinson 40% dislike him 12% neutral https://yougov.co.uk/topics/international/explore/public_figure/Tommy_Robinson https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/50257-the-public-reaction-to-the-2024-riots Do these make you rethink any of your assertions? What specifically do you disagree with in the 'propoganda' that I posted as you say its not true?

Im still waiting for you to give a valid argument against the original video. Do you care about the white grooming gangs or the massive problem of sex trafficking in eastern european countries that dont have many immigrants? There are thousands of victims of human trafficking every year in eastern europe, its literally a multi billion industry. This seems like a bigger issue, dont you think? Why isnt Tommy Robinson focused on this? Do you think if there were brown immigrants that were the perpetrators that he might be? I havent obfuscated anything, youve deflected away from the central point because youre not actually able to answer anything. Can i ask you because i am trying to understand where youre coming from Id apprciate if you could answer these questions clearl - Do you think muslims are more likely to commit crimes just by virtue of being muslim? Do you think that if a section of an ethnic group commits crimes, the whole ethnic group should be punished? Do you think its justified to treat legal immigrants badly because of perceived crimes? Do you think muslims are inherently bad people?

I agree with you, conscious politics is looking at things as authentically as you can. I think there is almost an instinct when approaching politics to looks at things as right v left or us v them. What Trump has done is effectively hijacked the traditional right, so that when people are talking about politics they now think conservative right means Trump which it doesnt. This is further evidenced by a huge amount of conservatives who are traditional and have principles, distancing themselves from him such a Romney, Liz Chaney etc but also those that have actually worked with him like John Bolton, Mike Pence and countless others. What youre left with is either those that have no integrity and see getting on board with Trump as a way in or those that do have an ideological belief and see Trump as someone who can lower the walls enough so they can enact it, this is what we're seeing with Project 25 which is basically a plan for a Christian Theocracy. I think the left-bias idea is just a way to dismiss the valid questioning of this new Trumpism. Its really a false equivalency when you hear things like, 'theyre just as bad as each other' or 'two sides of the same coin'. Its actually really strange to normalise an attempted coup of the US and have a president literally recorded trying to get governers of states to change election results. What im curious about is if Trump does lose, what will happen to the republican party? I think hes almost sped up their decline.

Orange is going to be richer than Blue

Here's how I see it - traditionally right and left actually could never be too far apart simply because the mass public is not that far apart politically, there will be key differences in the policy that they want but generally they would agree on the concept of democracy, most past wars were literally fought to preserve democracy and defend it from other ideologies taking hold. In general left believes in the collective whereas right is more individualistic. Society therefore is like a mix between these two and probably functions relatively well using both polarities. If we say 10 being as right as possible and 0 being as left as possible, traditionally dems are like 3 or 4 and cons are 6 or 7, progressives are further left and far right is obviously further right. What has been happening in recent times is the shift has been moving more left dems always win the popular vote, more young people vote for dems etc so people are favouring more the collective. So essentially the conservatives as we knew them were slowly dying. But also the left were becoming complacent. Trump came in as the cons didn't really have anyone they believed could win, but his strategy was to engage those that were still hanging on to the right and weren't going to shift. The messaging of make america great again, was actually pretty genius in what would speak to them. Also you have to remember how Obama was painted by the right, although he's probably a 3 on the scale he was being painted as a 1. Which meant that the right felt they needed a candidate that was opposite to a 1 to get their balance back. Trump is probably an 8 but I don't even know how to rate him as he seems almost sepeate from the scale in that his main focus is him, he doesn't actually have policies or some mission he's trying to enact, he just wants power. So to answer your question this is not traditional left or right, this is Trumpism v democracy. If you think of Trump vs the Bushes, he is very far away from them in terms of what he wants to do. The dems are still fairly central but the Trump voters are painting them to basically be communists simply because the opposite of communist ideology is facism, so to normalise facism they need to the paint the picture of battli g communists. Maga is essentially living in a different reality. But I think dems are playing it well pointing out the weirdness and staying on their message.

I'm not gonna watch a 2 hour propaganda documentary made by Tommy robinson fans. Especially as you haven't actually given a response to any of the points raised. If I can guess the doc will talk about how he's a hero of working class Britain, how he's unfairly targeted by a system that let's Muslims get away with criminal acts, how he hasn't got freedom of speech, how he's a journalist and activist that only cares about Britain and is definitely not racist because he had black and Asian friends. Am I close?

I believe what I can verify as true no matter the source. You do understand you haven't actually refuted a single point anyone's raised. @Jacob Morresposted his convictions via Wikipedia but these all have sources, wikipedia is jist presnting them, are you disputing the sources which is literally the criminal justice system? Also you claim he's anti-violent yet I shared 3 clips of him literally being aggressively violent, how do you account for that? Please do not deflect as well, just stay on topic. It's also funny how you say don't trust BBC and Wikipedia even though they have lots of regulations (not saying they're perfect) but trust this random tommy robinson fan that made a documentary on youtube, little but hypocritical no?

There are probably some cases where it makes sense to manipulate, like if someone was going to kill themselves and you cared about them youd probably try everything you could to save them. Look at addiction interventions, from what i see in films anyway, theres always some kind of coercion to get them to the venue where they basically get ambushed. Or with young kids you might exaggerate certain dangers so that they do hurt themselves. You can make the argument that all these things are wrong and truly you dont know whats best for people, maybe they need to go further down the dark road, but i think its hard to let that happen if you have the power to potentially change it. Another example is with governments, where people complain because they limit freedom, sometimes of course they can go overboard. But lets take something like seatbelts, you could argue that making seatbelts compulsory by law is manipulation, its almost forcing people to do something and people at the time complained and protested, but since it was put into law in the USA from 1975 up until 2017, it saved an estimated 374,276 lives (according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). So essentially without that form of manipulation all those lives wouldve been lost. This is the crux of the issue is that when you have power, either a someones boss, parent, relative, friend, leader whatever, you do have some kind of responsibility for them and that may include subtle forms of manipulation. The hard part is balancing that with giving them as much freedom as possible, but it definitely is a balance and not as easy as just saying 'let them do whatever', because i just dont think thats realistic in life.

Nah it will never happen, of course they want to keep a low profile for fear of deportation, but just interesting to think how effective it would be

The joke is they dont realise their way of life that theyre trying desperately to protect from immigrants would not be able to sustain without immigrants, theres a certain irony to that. That is crazy, I feel like all this discontent could be sorted out if all immigrants legal and illegal went on strike for a week. All these powerful western countries would literally shut down

He's always saying outlandish shit, so whenever they charge him he can't point to that and say 'they don't like what I'm saying and they're trying to silence me'. He's cooked, the amount of charges, even if he gets off some there's so many from different countries. I'd be surprised if he doesn't flee at some point. I think his restriction of movement was put back to just Romania, so it would be harder to flee.