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@StarfoxEpiphany OK so get to your final point, are you saying racism doesn't exist and black people are just blaming their struggles on race and exaggerating the effect of racism on them?
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You're missing my point I'm talking about the actual penalties in law for different drug offences. If we compare crack cocaine to meth, meth users for possession may receive a fine and up to 3 years, for possession of crack you can get up to life imprisonment. Essentially in law the two drugs are treated completely differently despite the heavy damage they both do. So looking at that it seems like there's a racial element to it, although I might be wrong and maybe you can enlighten me.
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The drug law comparison wouldn't be between other countries, for it to make sense and be considered racist, you would have to compare the penalties for another illegal drug within the same country that's user base is a different demographic. This isn't hard to do for example you can compare the sentences people got for weed over say crystal meth which has a mostly Caucasian user base, you'll find it's not even close, there were much harsher penalties imposed on black people using weed, despite the fact meth is a much more damaging drug to the community. Same can be said for the descrepencies in penalties for cocaine vs crack cocaine. Mostly the same drug but treated completely differently in the legal system. So you would have to find another country where there are harsher penalties imposed on drugs that are the same or less damaging than other drugs for your example to make sense.
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OK I'm racist against people from Papua new Guinea, does that change the impact systemic racism?
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True, which gives in an insight into the scope of how hard it would be to educate people on nuanced matters like this, especially given the issues that come about because of the lack of education. Children in fact would be open to these ideas which is what the adults in these groups are worried about lol. To actually create change going forward you would need theories like this taught in schools and i say that just from the reaction of the parents. In terms of crt itself, i dont know the ins and outs of it but its not above criticism and maybe its not the best theory but the point is that something needs to be taught that address the history and effect racism has had on, in this case, America. Anti-crt people seem to be saying nothing should be taught and these facts should be hidden, which would be the equivalent of Germany pretending the Nazis didnt happen and not teaching about it in school. If you know about Germany they've gone out of the way to address what happened during that period and make as sure as they can nothing like that would ever happen again, reparations, education, monuments and museums, dedicated to repairing the damage. When you consider millions more people were brutalised for a longer period of time during slavery and people are fighting for the statues of slavers to not be brought down, its a troublesome thought and speaks even more to way some kind of racial studies is extremely important.
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It is hard to actually face the points that I've laid out, which says a lot on how crt is seen by certain people, 'you're just calling us racist, we're not racist, you're racist'. Anyway I'll leave this here, if anyone else wants to comment on the actual points raised and discuss further than deciding who's more racist, I'm open
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As I said its not about who's racist, if we say everyone's racist that acknowledges a flaw that we all have as humans to favour our own group to varying degrees. Racism is more of a perception of your race as superior to other races, that's the dictionary definition. So if that's the case it would stand to reason that if you have a society that generally favours white people, then of course those that are not favoured will not be happy about it and want to point it out or redress the balance. This isn't necessarily exclusive to white people it would happen in any society, it just so happens white people have had the most power in an age where the consciousness level of humans has risen sufficiently enough to become aware of this bias that we have on a wider scale. But let's take my original point of red lining, I assume this is taught in crt. Now this is an actual thing that actually happened and had actual social and economic effects on black people to this day. So there are two options in terms of how to handle this one of many racially dark instances of American history. One is to teach it to young people in an effort that they don't repeat it and have an understanding of why it was done and why it will not lead to a fair and just society. The other option is to ignore it, pretend it never happened and label anyone that mentions it as 'race hustlers' or people with 'victim complexes'. Essentially do we want to deny reality and history and all its implications or do we want to embrace and learn from it?
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Feel free to address the actual point in my post
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Yes you are right, all humans are racist to some degree, but the problem is how that racism affects others. For example in 60s up until even the 90s red lining was a common thing, meaning that black people literally couldn't by properties as they wouldn't be given loans or they would drive the house prices down of certain areas. If you think on this for a second it would mean that the generational wealth and equity built up for the last 60 years just by owning a house is non-existent. This is obviously a racist practice that had a massive affect on black families and incorporated future consequences. Now if black people are racist, let's even say they are as racist as white people were or are, what practice or policy could they implement that would affect white people in the same way as red lining?
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Break it down though, what's your take on racism over the last 100 years? Does it exist, does it not have an effect on today? Expand on your take
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The key with this is that it is a theory, in reality you can teach any theory that does not in anyway equal that kids are being indoctrinated. For example I learnt Hitlers theory on eugenics in history, this gives context for why he believed what he did and did what he did, but obviously the theory didnt ring true for me and theres pretty solid scientific criticisms against it. But to say that it shouldnt be taught because it might indoctrinate kids into nazism would be ridiculous. This is similar with crt, if though what they say rings true then that is just a pill i think people need to swallow. If the theory was completely outlandish like eugenics i dont think there would be much fuss made, the fact that so many people of a similar type are worried about it, shows that it hits home in some way. Its almost like a collective reaction to actually addressing race, ultimately even if this isnt the best way to do it, these people will have a problem addressing race on any level, I cant actually envision a way that they would happily address it.
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Whats your perspective though do you think race has not been an issue at all over the last say 100 years?
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It is very interesting I always wondered what a turquoise and coral conversation would be like, now I guess we know
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Like i said i might be wrong and looking at the descriptions of Indigo and Violet, its not impossible for someone to be at those stages, I dont know if youve experienced telepathy or something like that which is trait of Indigo or if you perceive light beings, which is a trait of Violet, id be interested and open to know though. Numbers wise Wilbur estimated turquoise to be less than 0.1% of the population, i would say this is an overestimate but then if you look at how many might be higher than that it has to be minuscule and would include the most developed people in the history of humanity, which you may be of course but I automatically dont take that at face value, just because of how rare it would be.
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I always doubt people when they claim to be turquoise or above, its like literally saying im the most developed human being that has ever existed. It could be true and maybe you are and im just projecting on you but i do find it hard to take seriously, no offence.
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You might like this guys channel, hives a good insight into the nature of people's beliefs https://youtube.com/c/AnthonyMagnabosco210
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" Thimerosal, the organic compound used as a preservative in some vaccines, breaks down in the body into ethyl mercury. Since our bodies can remove ethyl mercury, it doesn’t bioaccumulate. This is very different from methyl mercury, found in trace amounts in certain fish like tuna. Methyl mercury is hard for our bodies to remove and can bioaccumulate. It’s the buildup of mercury over time that can be dangerous, which is why the FDA recommends limiting consumption of certain varieties of fish. While both compounds contain mercury, the two molecules are structurally different and behave differently in our bodies. It’s similar to the difference between ethyl alcohol and methyl alcohol. The former is found in beer and wine and used as a social lubricant, while the latter is used in things like antifreeze and is highly toxic. Simply stating some vaccines contain mercury is like saying “OMG! Beer contains antifreeze!” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/briankoberlein/2016/09/20/vaccines-meteors-and-why-details-matter/amp/
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You are right of course when you put what I said in the context you've put it in but I didn't actually mean what you were talking about, which is on me as I wasn't clear enough. When I say green has bias toward everything natural what I mean is in terms of medicine or food or even fabrics and materials. For example there's an aversion to modern medicine as it's seen as unnatural or made in a lab. This can be quite damaging as a green person may not take modern medicine if they have cancer for example or they may advise people who have it not to take it. There's also a condition now where people can get obsessed with eating healthy and it can affect them quite badly. When I say man made I'm speaking on things made in a lab where the process isn't 'natural', many greens have problems with these things.
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Some issues I see with green, for one one is a nature fallacy, in which everything that is 'natural' is automatically good and anything that's man made or made by a corporation is bad. There's a complete rejection of orange which of course needs to be integrated. There's many elements of magical thinking in the new age movement in the form of crystals and manifestation etc. The core of this of course is not limited to green, it's something that's seen up and down the spiral, ie rejection of the previous memes. Also its not everyone in green that had these issues I would say it's the more toxic element. Eventually I think these issues get overcome as well its just part of the journey
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@kras 6 dates is quite a lot imo without anything sexual happening. What you have to ask yourself is would she act the same way if she was going out with someone shes really attracted to? Maybe she would and if thats the case then just decide whether you like her enough to give all that attention to her and potentially have a relationship with her in the future. But most likely shes slept with guys within 3 dates before and probably still would in the future, so in that case youve either got to address why you were treated differently and its probably what Leo said about the boyfriend frame rather than the playful jerk. So its probably not too late to change your frame with her but more for the future work on your game and also have standard that if you feel the girl is not 'rip your clothes off into you' then just let it go, otherwise its like youre begging for scraps.
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How are peoples investments in crypto going, did you get out in time? Did you lose money, what happened? Whats the plans going forward?
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Heres the thing your dad is right in some respects, there obviously has to be some kind of marketing campaign to get people to take the vaccine but this would be the same if it was to get people to eat healthy or not commit crimes or whatever else could be classed as something that will help society. It would also be necessary for anything that youre trying to sell or get people to take part in that might not be good for society, basically for mass take up of anything, good or bad there will need to be marketing, theres no way around that. Assume for a second that everything about covid is true and vaccines do work and are the way out, this would have to be communicated to the public in some way otherwise people wouldnt take it seriously and uptake probably wouldnt be that great. Doing the whole thing for profit is an argument ive heard but i dont really buy it. The vaccine costs from $2-$15 per dose, lets go on the high end of the average and say its $10 and lets say everyone gets 2 doses. With a world population of 8 billion, that works out at $160 billion total if everyone gets vaccinated which they probably wont. Now you might think thats quite a lot and the profit would be worth out, but when you take into account that over 200 groups were trying to develop a vaccine, successful or not each one would need funding of anywhere from $150 million to a few billion $. Also the size of the whole pharma market is worth around $1.3 trillion per year which is 1,300 billion dollars. So then you have to ask was it worth shutting down the economy just for maybe 12% extra than what they wouldve made in a normal year? Also the vaccines are just 1 or 2 doses in theory forever or lets even say per year, how would it make sense to produce a vaccine at a cost and risk that it might not even be viable over just promoting medicines they already have developed that people would have to take forever? For context the alternative medicine market is valued at around $82 billion, if you take away the covid vaccines it usually makes more than a normal vaccine year. What you usually find is those at the head of anti-vax movements usually have a lot of money at stake as well. For example Dr Buttar made a lot of money from alternative therapies, claiming to be able to cure things like cancer as well as now covid whilst charging patients $1000s and not having any positive results. This isnt to say everyone in the movement is just out for money but there is a lot of money being made from these views, you could probably say the same about pharma companies as well. Only difference being pharma tends to have a lot more testing and whatnot. This isnt to say Big Pharma are perfect, far from it, there are many issues and things i dont agree with but for now, at our level of consciousness anything thats a necessity and makes profit will not be perfect.
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Thats such a funny sentence "If Bob was depressed Id leave him alone, but i see hes really enjoying his life so im gonna enjoy stabbing him"
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If you're always having bad experiences in relationships, it's either you're not good at picking the right guy (and getting rid of them when you see red flags) or you have some behaviors that are not working in the relationship. If I was going to date you it would worry me that you describe all your exs as fuck boys or narcissists. It seems like you have a lot of love to share and relationships are very important for you, so I think you should take time out of relationships to really work on yourself and discover what issues you have that could be affecting your relationships. Therapy or something like that would help you a lot, I do it myself and have found it very useful, you may not be able to change yourself easily but at least there will be an awareness of where you issues lie as well as the root and how they play out. Otherwise you may unfortunately find yourself in this position regularly. In terms of what you said to the guy, assuming you've only had a few conversations with him, then yeah this is way over the top, you may feel this way but of course to some extent its a projection as you dont know him that well. It also shows that you don't value yourself too much from his perspective, if you're willing to drop everything for him. It's a lot of pressure to put on him so early, these parts of the relationship should be fun, life is not always so serious. Good luck though
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I did like him and still think hes not a bad guy but he has fallen down the new agey hole quite a bit, which is a shame as hes a really effective speaker
