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Haha yeah very true Its hard to do it because youd have to have a certain awareness that youre doing it in the first place which is specifically what youre trying to avoid. But i think if you set truth as the most important thing then it will at least encourage you to question and challenge your own opinions. If you look at things from a distance is very easy to not be tied to it and then be quite rational, for example if you heard about tribes in the jungles of africa being in conflict, youd be able to look at that and think rationally what can be done to sort out that conflict, whereas if youre in America and youre a republican or democrat youll likely be pretty biased and want to hold on to your opinion that your party is 'right', so the conflict will never get resolved.

In terms of survival and structure i think men are going to just be better, but imagine the next generation without the nuture and care of women, there would be a lot of problems. So obviously for a functioning healthy society you need both and thats why we've evolved as such. I think the problem comes in with the framing of this, so if you put one as more important than the other or even that theyre the same and try and flatten the structure. I dont see why now theres a problem with saying men are generally better at some things and women are generally better at some things. Thinking about it, it could be how male traits were made to look a lot more cool, like being independent, working, providing etc, so now women or society sees being equal as women doing what men do. Would be interesting if it was always matriarch system and you had men fighting to do more caring jobs lol. But it goes to show how its all really perception. Heres another tv show that tried the experiment btw, obviously low numbers so it wouldnt be statistically significant but interesting anyway

Its an interesting quirk and i think its the first sign of cognitive dissonance if you feel yourself getting emotional. If you think about it, its because we tie ourselves to the opinion and someone questioning it is like an attack on ourselves, if we werent attached to the opinion there wouldnt be much reaction.

Yeah he does have some interesting perspectives, that would appeal to people on the spiritual path. However, what my point is, is that due to his experiences hes kind of lost his way and got wrapped up in the conspiracy persona, hes not stupid he knows the effect he can have on people and this is why i wouldnt really advise anyone to listen to him as it would be very easy for some people to get sucked down his rabbit hole, as we've seen on an even larger scale during the pandemic. I think there are enough spiritual teachers who dont have such an obvious potentially dangerous side, so just listen to them. I dont know if he has any ulterior motives or what his ultimate goal is but hes either unaware of the effect he has in which case hes not a very conscious teacher or he is aware which is even worse.

Hes definitely an interesting character, I would say he seems to have had an awakening experience but he was mocked and laughed at in the UK for sharing it. I think this then to a grudge against the media which hes held since then. With conspiracy stuff i think that he got lost in the adulation from people, hes almost got a kind of hero status amongst conspiracy theorists, just because someone is awake it doesnt mean theyre immune to fame and having die hard followers. Honestly this mix of the grudge and being able to stick it to the higher ups and have people following him whilst doing it has taken over him. So its a shame but you have to understand how radical what he was saying was to a mainstream british audience, he probably wouldnt have ended up as he has if he hadnt received the treatment -

If you got time, start a new thread on how you think sexual education should be taught to kids and how that differs from whats being taught now, i think its an interesting topic

So kinda what they teach now, theyre not teaching kids to go and have sex with whoever theyre just giving them information to make an informed choice. A good example is the Netherlands where the age of consent is 12 but they have comprehensive sex education, the average they lose their virginity is 18.6 years old. In comparison in the US its 17 and this is despite being a lot more religious. Also comparing the teenage pregnancy rates, its 16.7 per 1000 girls in America and 3.2 per 1000 in Netherlands. Gotta watch that deceptive fox Obama, trying to teach kids to lower teenage pregnancy and shit

15, man what a great age to be asking these questions and to start from! First off really get your head around understanding money and how to grow it, read these books ASAP - millionaire next door and psychology of money. As your 15 you have a lot of time in which to get compounded interest and build your capital if you start now, in 20 years your money can compound so much you won't believe and you'd only be 35. Next get a job, literally whatever you can get, you go to school I'm guessing so the job will just be weekends and/or evenings. Spend some of this money but save and invest as much as you can. Keep an eye for things that you feel passionate about, is it music, law, sport, psychology, business, whatever it is delve into that more and look for opportunities in that, maybe its worth doing a course within that field. I would t necessarily do this just to escape your parents, but definitely get these things in place and whatever you do with your life it will set a good foundation.

Right but its what a lot of conservatives are advocating for, either way stats are quite conclusive that early sex education leads to lower numbers in all the metrics i mentioned. This is where i see a bit of irony because people claim they want to protect kids by not teaching them sex education early however if you dont its a lot more likely that they will be taken advantage of.

Value is the whole thing, as a society we need to create some way to store value, so when you create something or carry out a service you get some hold of value which you can then exchange for some other good or service. The problem is everyone is just focused on the store of value and as such it can also be manipulated by those who know how to exploit value and make things seem more valuable than they are. As Jesus may have said 'the love of money is the root of all evil'.

Abstinance education leads to statistically more teenage pregnancy, more sexual abuse and more unhealthy relationships. Comprehensive Sexual education from a young age leads to less of all of these things. I don't know where the debate is in this??‍♂️

But here lies the hypocrisy, i agree with you in that shes probably changed in that time although its hard to say for definite, but if you look at recent tweet scandals, youve had people like Kevin Hart and James Gunn be cancelled (at least temporarily losing high profile jobs) in similar circumstances, ie questionable tweets from 10 years ago. In the case of these 2 they apologised multiple times. So we really have to keep things consistent, a lot of the time people calling for others to be cancelled also have probably said things in which they could be cancelled as well. So having empathy for people and allowing them to make mistakes is extremely important for any society. Like Jesus might have said 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Circling back to Chappelle, he should be allowed to call out this negative aspect of this section of the community. It feels like they are trying to reduce it to him just insulting the trans community but then the irony is that hes calling them out for what they are currently doing to him which is cancelling anyone who says anything that could even be interpreted as negative criticism. Regardless of whether hes right or wrong its still a valid criticism, although a very nuanced one.

I think that if you go to any point in history most likely the upcoming generation will be looked down upon by the older generation as a generation tthat has it easier than them. Conversely the older generation will always be seen as 'just dont get it' and 'not keeping up with the times'. I think it just is what it is, everyone thinks their generation is the best, even with music, theres a lot of songs i thought were complete shit in the 90s and still do but if you go on youtube theyll be comments like 'back when music was the best', 'they dont make songs like this anymore', its normally nonsense.

Yeah its an age old debate of in terms of whther you truly have free will or if everythings determined to some extent. I heard an interesting fact today listening to an audio book, they said if you take 2 brothers that have the same upbringing, if one becomes self made rich the other one is also likely to become self made rich, its actually more likely than them having a similar height. But also to your point, your ability to even be aware of being able to transcend is also determined on the way your brain is, your upbringing etc etc. You could grow up with a mother who teaches you about self actualisation or not even as specific just teaches you different things that lead to you transcending. Its hard to put free will in the equation as much as we might want to, there are just so many factors. Yeah Joker is a great example as well, if Bruce Wayne didnt have the upbringing he had he couldve very well turned into the Joker

There are definitely lines that you can cross though, for example punching down is always going to looked as basically bullying. If you had a rich white person making fun of poor black people i would understand that getting a public outcry, but even within that theres nuance, the rich white person could be making fun of rich white people that do that for example. So when you get into comedy it becomes very subjective and nuanced. The question with Chappelle is, was he punching down and is he bullying trans people as oppose to commenting on society and how different groups are treated. I think its a bit of a strawman to say that hes just bashing trans people, that doesnt mean hes right but its painting the conflict in the wrong way imo. What would be interesting is for him to have a conversation with a trans person who thinks he was wrong, in some kind of podcast format and just hash out each sides points

I shouldve added to say why you think whatever lines are good or bad. But ill ask you on this one, why do you think this would be really offensive or potentially hate speech?

Could someone note down the most offensive lines or sentiments that Chappelle expressed that you believed to have gone too far? I feel a lot of this conversation has been a bit abstract without any specifics

I disagree with @Leo Gura here, I wouldnt say a murderer necessarily deserves to die, the issue ive got with crime and punishment is that most murderers arent just completely fine and then decide to murder someone, there is usually complex psychological or environmental conditions that lead to this. A quick example is if you grow up in lets say the roughest part of chicago into a family that dont really care about you and end up getting involved in gangs for your initial survival and then follow a path that leads to you killing someone, you 100% wouldnt have done that if you grew up in different circumstances. Its easy to condemn someone like that if your circumstances have been growing up in the suburbs, loving family etc etc. Ultimately its our society that allows this disparity or at least is responsible for it in the same way as a business owner is responsible for what happens in their business. Therefore it seems very callous as a government to initially punish someone by putting them in a bad situation and then end their life because they did something in accordance to that bad situation. (im aware people kill who are not in a bad situation but im just making an overall point). Having said that, yes if someone is dangerous to society they should be removed from society until they have been rehabilitated and if thats not possible then they shouldnt come back into society. But either way its on the government to foot the bill. Keep in mind the government could switch spending from punishment to prevention, there are many proven ways to do this, decriminalising drugs like in portugal, investment in poorer areas, youth clubs, mentors for young people etc etc. If the government spends lots of money on punishment and not much on prevention then that is just bad management on the part and they cant just kill those problems away.

It comes down to the market not being regulated enough, that's the real issue. A company in any field that there are holes in regulation where they can take advantage, most likely will take advantage, especially as they're driven by stock performance, if they aren't making profits and no one puts money in them the company will cease to exist. This was the same in finance, real estate, every industry you can think of has scaused chaos because a hole was found and exploited and greed took over because it was essentially sanctioned fraud and it then had a devastating effect on normal people and the economy. So with pharma, things like not being able to advertise prescription medicine the way the do, we dont get that in the UK but when I went to the US I couldn't believe how many adverts I saw. Not being able to influence doctors to sell a particular medicine, there's loads of things like that, that aren't shut down because of lobbying and what the government allows. These things are systemic and it's kind of short sighted to just blame the pharma companies. Green tends to demonise big pharma but if they looked at structurally they may have a different perspective. Ultimately Western health has been a net positive and saved and extended a lot of peoples lives, the entanglement with it being a business with shareholders to pay and a regulatory and political system that allows manipulation is of course dangerous and needs to be fixed.

I've never really taken to it but I do like @Ascent X s explanation of it so I'm open to it. But here's my thing, there are so many variables and so many factors that can affect one's life, where you grow up, your parents, your school, your brain type, what media you consume, friends and peers you have, there's literally so much variation so how could it be the same as someone born at the same time as you?

lol Nice man, good to see you on here!

You can change maybe 0.1% in a day, you need to create habits and be patient to change, thats it. If its not that youre wasting energy trying to find a shortcut

I love the potential of it and the taking steps toward the potential. As in it really is like a computer game and you can focus on something and make it come into reality for the character youre playing. You can work on your trauma and issues that youve accumulated, you can help others reach their potential, there are so many possibilities, it is mind blowing and amazing when you think about it. You can say tomorrow 'im going to learn how to be a chef' and actually take steps to do that and have that experience. I could change it to just experience but i like the idea of playing it like a game. Its like the most immersive, incredible, computer game, theres so many levels (of awareness) so much to reach for and experience, the shit is amazing.

Just listened to all of the 7 hours and it was a really great conversation. I found Curt very interesting as he is very open minded but you get the sense he is very scientifically based and always has been and hasnt had that peak over the fence, so hes very willing but its hard to describe to someone what a thing tastes like if theyve never tasted it themselves. The bit where you both get emotional is amazing as well, all round very happy this conversation is out there and i hope he continues with his work as he is doing good work

Financial independence i believe is when you no longer trade your time for money and of course are still able to support yourself. You no longer work for people but with people in partnership. The points that you mentioned could be facets of this but theyre not necessarily limited to it, for example having debt is pretty normal for financially independent people its just how theyre leveraging that debt and using it to make money.