Sugarcoat

What are self referential thoughts? Thanks for sharing. I’ll have to reread that to really take it in.

I don’t see many at all claiming to be enlightened here actually. Im gonna start meditating. Just a bit unsure about the best technique. I’m thinking just simple focusing my attention on the breath, but maybe there are “better” methods.

They only give me a little calming effect that’s it nothing else.

@Princess Arabia ok

Yes

Ok I see

Right

That was what I was thinking

Yes I only have access to my own perception. So you mean everything we can imagine, exists (aka reality imagines it)

I take both Zyprexa and prosac

@Schizophonia 😂

Cool

Cool. I’m thinking of starting to meditate too again. Goal is also about 2 hours a day.

Cool thanks for sharing. I didn’t know it was that common. I wonder how many of those awakenings/glimpses/insights were non dual though. Maybe some have them but don’t recognize the non duality. I agree there is real dedication required in the pursuit of enlightenment. That’s what I’m looking into now. What do you mean by we have become good at “tuning it into out, distracting ourselves and forgetting” ? I have also thought to myself about the flow state. The flow state can sometimes be a selfless state, so it’s kinda non dual but not recognized as such. So it’s like people can have glimpses regularly but it’s never permanent aka enlightenment.

What do you mean by development vs non dual way?

I was thinking the other day. Isn’t it crazy how enlightenment which is seemingly the most obvious, natural, thing ever when it’s recognized is so damn hard to “see”? Like the one thing that is absolutely true is so hard to see. 99.99% of people walking around are caught up in their self illusion, how can an illusion be so strong. It’s crazy.

I also have this theory that everyone is slowly, over lifetimes even, getting closer to enlightenment. The self naturally dissolves very slowly .

Relative vs absolute or?

Right

Ok I might understand a little of what u mean

This. It’s in the human egos design to be attached

Thanks

Maybe we’re not the brain but the brain creates experience of us. That’s why psychedelics through interaction in the brain can alter this self experience. This all being true in relative sense

Can spiritual practice help in seeing “this”?

But mind can appear as a brain imagining a self. So it’s true in the relative sense that the brain creates the self in the same way we can say there is gravity in relative sense. So I believe kinda