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But then is that the same as saying that a tomato is the same substance as consciousness? Then we can’t use any relative concept

So the awareness the person has is the same as reality altogether?

I can kinda relate. I have experienced flow of energy upwards in my body up to my skull like a release. Also a lot of energy felt flowing during sleep paralysis. Also having visions of the crown chakra.

Yes I understand. Enlightenment won’t necessarily lead to an understanding of the brain/mind (maybe they are relative concepts) Thanks for your answer! I resonate with what you write here on the forum, you seem genuine In my own life, I kinda have noticed how it’s my mind that creates or at least contributes to my sense of self. And it seems it’s the brain that produces the mind. And how it’s like also an energetic structure And I relate so much to what you say about the energetic tension! I have not experienced a ~total~ loss of self, but I have experienced a gradual weakening of the self, a kind of dissolution of some of the layers to it. And the softer it got, the less tension in the body and mind, it’s actually crazy! I felt it like energetic knots, particularly in abdomen for example. I do feel though that my brain/mind still does this activity of upholding the self, why it does that, must be just how it’s designed to do, idk If enlightenment is to do with the brain, then things that could rewire the brain such as meditation and psychedelics maybe can increase the likely hood of the self dropping…. Just my 2 cents

Thanks

Ok cool because you write very elaborate

@Xonas Pitfall Do you write your posts yourself or use ai?

Yea it’s like I have stereo type in my head how some US women are but I haven’t encountered it in Sweden Also I don’t meet a lot of people so it’s hard to make conclusions

Omg have we became a joke on the forum @Schizophonia

Do you think the brain is involved in enlightenment?

You have developed a strong mindset then. Good for you

Good for you … Even if life for most isn’t like religious hell people go through a kind of hell still. Chronic diseases etc

Didn’t you just describe your life as constant suffering? Sounds like hell to me

If consciousness/awareness is reality then what do we call the personal consciousness/awareness that the person possesses and is aware of itself (subject) and the world (object)?

What am I according to that radar? You can probably smell my self from a mile away

I don’t meet many people but for example in high school (I’m still young so it’s not too long ago) I went to a high school which required high grades to enter, and I saw many women I’d consider pretty mature, not non emotional like me but somewhat balanced. Maybe it’s a difference depending on education level you go to Im going to uni soon so there I’ll see more women…. I’ll see what I see

lol what kind of women are you guys interacting with. Where are these ultra emotional ungrounded women you talk about. The women I’ve met in my life seem pretty balanced. I’m a woman and I’m stoic asf. Detached from most things, even human relations. I know I’m rare but I feel this ultra emotional woman y’all talk about is like a minority who is easy for you to attract or something because you come off as her polar opposite when you play your little “game” of subtle manipulation trying to come off as masculine. Just admit you attract unstable women LOL

I’ll have to explore those substances more to grapple this

Would you say the negative experience is because there’s still some ego left that is reacting and resisting its dissolution or is “the void” just scary in itself even if the self is gone in that moment(or as you’d call it “open”)

Maybe he has spiritual wisdom and has had plenty of temporary glimpses but maybe isn’t permanently enlightened. With Krishnamurti he seems to have good understanding of the mind and fear. What state of consciousness he’s in on a daily basis I don’t know

Suffering is so core to the me

I’d do psychedelics. No effort required just trying to not get caught

I watched a little of nahms (sorry if I spelled wrong) YouTube videos in the past and I thought it was pretty profound (I don’t remember what I say because it was years ago )

I’ve done that too. It’s a different kind of self centeredness than a narcissist. The average young woman in the west is looks obsessed , but not a narcissist because of that

It shows you have self awareness that you have realized this. I doubt the average narcissist in classical medical definition has that self awareness, maybe maybe not I’ve always been obsessed with myself too. Trying to become best version of myself. It has had both upsides and downsides but mostly downsides because my life has been filled with mental suffering. it’s not the smartest way to go about life in my opinion also the classical narcissist affects others negatively through manipulation, needing attention, lying, controlling etc. If you don’t hurt others in the process then you’re not it