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What do you mean

I’m no better than a man, they are nice indeed. She’s stunning

I find when I try to run as hard as I can I always reach a certain point of intensity that I can handle then I stop, and it’s like no matter how many times I try I always stop at that specific point I’m planning on starting to run again particularly sprinting after my vacation when I get back home. I try to push my limits but it’s so hard (I mean it’s supposed to be hard)

@Schizophonia this is better music:

We’re agreeing

This is truly incredible I somehow found this video on YouTube of a man talking about how he overcame the physical pain of trigeminal neuralgia using large amount of mindfulness/meditation practice. Trigeminal neuralgia is called the “suicide disease” because the pain is so severe it’s known as one of the most, like top two, most painful conditions that exist. It’s rated on McGill pain index higher than for example childbirth I only listened to the video once and it was kinda long so I don’t remember a lot of details of what he said. But basically he studied some of Shinzen Youngs work that talked about how pain + resistance = suffering. That pain is not inherently suffering (what I used to think). And one can learn how to not resist, something like that, and overcome the suffering. The man already was spiritual and did practice, but he added this large amount of mindfulness to the pain and overcame it. He even mentioned doing invasive dental work without needing painkiller due to his mindfulness ability making him not suffer the pain. I don’t know if this man is a genetic freak, he is very stubborn and has discipline which helps him, and his history of already doing spiritual practice helps too. But nonetheless it’s truly remarkable. To think that someone could overcome one of the most severe pain in the world using the mind (or deactivating the mind or whatever you wanna call it) is just incredible. What you guys think? Does this give hope for the many pain sufferers all over the world or is it just something a select few can accomplish because of the amount of determination needed?

I think many live for loved ones

Ok…

Then what about atheists that keep on living

So you’re saying the structure of the self is as real as the structure of the table in my living room? But then maybe what the non dualists say is that there’s no separation so there’s not a separate table. In the same way there’s not a separate self. So that’s the illusion, that there’s actually a defined separate self. So maybe you’re saying you could see the totality so that is absence of limits, then within that the self is the same except it’s no longer experienced as “absolutely separate” (the normal experience) So for example right now I feel absolutely real so there’s no illusion in that?

There is a group of people who gain hope from religion

It’s like hidden gems… Its crazy to me how someone could feel pain without suffering it

I am fascinated by people who have suffered a lot, what has kept them going because I notice I tend to resort sometimes to suicidal thinking when I face challenges so I’m confused about what keeps other people going. Theres something respectable about someone who has suffered a lot. It’s like there comes something deep from it, some kind of wisdom sometimes

It’s hard to stomach but I’m open to it

Ok cool. I might experiment Workouts is the only way I suffer so might as well experiment with it Yea

Yea maybe

My head is already quite empty

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I think it’s fine as long as you’re aware of it being in the dream. So it’s like right now I am aware that I’m in operating from the dual dream. So you’re not fooling yourself.

Yea right. That’s why I’m open to different perspectives. There’s different ways of talking about the absolute

So spot on

I think a kind of natural niceness comes from your own wellbeing, but you don’t have to do extra beyond basic respect and manners, meaning going out of your way to be nice. That’s not necessary. So a natural niceness doesn’t have to pay off because it’s a reflection of your internal state, it’s how you carry yourself it doesn’t have to benefit you. Being nice in a natural well mannered respectable way (not the extra way) shouldn’t be an outstanding quality of yours, but rather just how you naturally are, the bare minimum.

I’ve been wondering lately if there is some truth to this detoxing thing

Yea I also resonate with some non dual talkers who emphasize that it’s hopeless, nothing to get etc because there’s no you to get it. That’s how it is in the absolute sense. But it seems that in the relative domain, in our normal life, it can happen that the self structure can soften or partially dissolve. That’s kinda what I feel happened to me. So it’s like the self seems to have many “layers” to it, it’s thick and dense, and layers can shed. But it’s still mileeees away from the total absence.

It’s one thing to know the idea about this all being a narrative vs actually seeing through it. The latter seems the hard part