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Sounds like humanizing god to me. Or maybe you don’t mean it literally

Do you ever get cracks in your reality where it’s like it almost stops feeling as real Example is when I had social anxiety I felt I needed to get over it fully before relationship because I was afraid of being cringe

Yea. But it’s probably an outdated joke for you.

True dying as a human is dissolving the self. It’s the ultimate death apart from physical death.

Should we tell him….

What do you mean boredom

You mean because transcending avoidance of suffering would entail ending the self so that also ends the other? You have to tell me because I need to know how 😭

I personally have transcended the seeking of pleasure as a human, but not the avoidance/aversion to suffering. Seems to me you need a total self wipeout for that latter part…. Let me know if you ever transcend that

But maybe you wanna live in your little bubble and not pop it I know I just wrote something that came to mind. It was insecurity in my far past

The only thing I can draw similarity to my experience is when I tried 5 Meo dmt it was like that. It’s like the border between you and world melts and it can feel directly scary Idk but if you feel like “I really wanna explore it” then maybe you just have to go through the fear and hopefully it will subside

Wow that’s so cool you’re able to do that. Could you describe more closely how it feels when you start to “dissapear” ? Are you sure that fear is linked to when it starts happening, or are you having fear about the mere IDEA of it happening? Like is it a mental fear about how you imagine it’s gonna be, or is it more a fear that arises in that exact experience directly? I don’t have good advice rather than just sit with it….

It def rises….

Right

You are onto something. I almost wanted to write a post about how enlightenment can lead closer to a vegetative state. I have found myself to almost be in one. So I struggle to reply here. I’ll just leave it at that

Maybe when some speak of solipsism they speak in terms of the personal consciousness being the only one, so it has different meaning than what you said

I see so it’s like it needs a process beyond the mind: like a breakthrough beyond the mind, a drop in the self, etc, for there to be direct knowing of something that later can be conceptualized but most importantly it’s direct awareness of it

😂😂It was kinda spiritual, like I awoke to how it was all in my mind

@Razard86 Yea it is rare to encounter people with such open minds to be willing to investigate these things. It’s important so you don’t automatically resist it. I have done self inquiry and watching the self/investigation but I haven’t been able to discover those things for myself without using drugs, EXCEPT that I have developed a deep resonance with some descriptions of the absolute . It’s almost like there’s something in me that knows I’m in a “dream” but that doesn’t allow me to break out of it. Because all I know is the dream weirdly enough. But I can intuit the non dual stuff. Like the veil is thin yet still robust, like how spider web is tough to break but it’s so thin lol yea society is def not ready for these things! Most people go about the their lives not questioning if they’re even real or if the world is real. They just take it for granted

Both these songs have a kind of powerful, personal development vibe to them:

Very cool sharing. Would you say there is awareness of this in everyday life, or it’s an understanding from peak experiences that you then carry with you into your normal experience?

It’s like there can be a temporary alteration in our sense of reality. It’s like in high school sometimes when I looked at my crush it’s like I could suddenly see him without my mental filter projected and suddenly the attraction dropped.

I don’t quite understand and I’d say it’s both on you and me. My brain is almost closer to a vegetative state than a human state, so that makes it hard to think clearly. And you wrote in a complicated way for the average person who hasn’t consumed certain theories you refer to , to understand Im kind of impressed when people are able to write these elaborate texts. It almost sounds like a fairytale to me though. Like you wrote this and you feel it’s all real, it’s like it’s a figment of the very substance of your reality, which is both pure reality, and then your own mental overlay on top of it, forming your perception of reality. Basically you have a story in your mind which forms your worldview and sense of reality. And it feels real. But it’s all maya Maybe if anyone spends a lot of time ruminating on something they’ll be able to write such a text. Not down playing its quality though. I guess I don’t have a lot to say pertaining to the content of the text. I can say though that it’s so deeply wired into the normal human to seek intimacy and social connection, so it’s normal for there to be neurotic tendencies in regards to that. And one doesn’t have to fully heal before entering a relationship, if that’s an idea someone has, it’s okay to be your messy self while entering a relationship. Your neurosis might worsen the quality of your relationship yes, but there’s always the potential to develop alongside your partner, instead of forcing yourself to be single until you fully heal (not that you have that idea). Also I think what we kinda want is to access a kind of effortlessness in our personality. We don’t wanna feel like it’s an effort to be us. But it can feel like it, if we have a bunch of ideas about how we should be and insecurities it can block that natural flow. So it takes some work to undo that. Maybe one can try to drop ideas of how one should be to get in touch with a deeper flow I’ll give it a reread to maybe understand better

So you’re interested in altered states is what I’m getting

But there’s a difference in that for you it’s sensed that the self isn’t real?

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