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You mean that Leo says that and it’s limited?

I still don’t really get it. Is it like your mind becomes a third person or what u mean

Okay cool..where did you get this from?

Okay i think i agree

In absolute sense yes

I still don’t think I agree entirely

A person on an island would have objects to relate to as other. So they might have a sense of self as the body

Beautiful

lmao . i "barely" feel I exist that should be close enough right, how much meditation do I need for it to crack fully

Me thinking of it is thought, but the experience of it is not thought I would say.

Why not? The most ive tried is 90%, which was okay but the sweet spot is 70 I think yum

Okay i see how there's so much drama. I just go to work. Then I spend time on social media but mostly here in this forum or listening to some non duality or another talk on YouTube. Or I'll watch food videos lol. And very rarely read the news. Being disconnected from myself and barely feeling like I exist a lot of the time helps too in being so uninvolved and detached lol

What do you mean by thing communicating with you metaphysically? So you switch between actively imagining scenarios vs letting mind do its own thing?

No problem Now I'm interested in hearing what you think the difference is between enlightenment and awakening if you don't mind?

Lol. I rarely read the news actually . Can you enlighten me on what has happened? Did Trump win? Dark chocolate is awesome

i don't know if I agree. I wonder how the sense of self would be for someone isolated on an island, if they would have any. I'm not sure about that. I can say one thing about the sense of space and it's that the sense of self creates it. So you experience I am over here and the world is over there separated. But I agree knowledge is separation, the knowing of I am is knowing of myself as separate. It's like an energetic sense I would say fundamentally.

what energy?

you mean this way of thinking is keeping the illusion alive?

okay i see I didn't think about those, that's why I said I have no attachments. But now that you mention them I can see how I probably have some. I thought for example because I'm not attached to any particular person, possession, looks or status etc. It appears as if I'm in control, doing things etc, I haven't experienced the opposite of them so I don't know if Im scared of it. I can say though when I tried 5meo dmt (small doses) it made me slightly uncomfortable and I was a bit fearful of taking higher doses so yes its a radical difference. Easier to let go in thought than in practice maybe. Im thinking of starting a meditation practice again. Sometimes I watch non duality talks on YouTube, I like them and it resonates but it hasn't yet revealed anything for me directly. I agree with you that an attachment and identity could be formed around the enlightenment practice, so better to not overthink it. I try to be present in my other activities. I've never heard anyone mention that before. Thanks. I did meditate in the past and did the focus on breath throughout the entire session but now that you mention it I might pay attention to when I enter, if I do, the no-mind state and stop it as you say. I don't know if I managed to enter no mind state in the past but I'll see where this gets me. Thanks once again very useful response.

I agree with you that overthinking it isn't going to get anywhere. The only good reason for this post is to possibly gain tips about what one could do to reach enlightenment. I mentioned Leo as an example of someone who is extremely devoted. Got me thinking, if he isn't yet enlightened then what's the hope for someone more casual like me. I could also use people like some monks who dedicate their life to this as an example.

44: Dark chocolate is so good. It’s tastier and richer than milk chocolate. White chocolate can be tasty too in small quantities. It took me a while to learn to like dark chocolate (70% is the sweet spot) but I’m glad I did it’s something I consume every day now. I will see if I’ll bake something with it too.

Okay I think I see what you’re saying.

You mean if someone for example was born isolated from everything on an island they wouldn’t develop a sense of self or?

So u saying the sense of self is just thoughts?

I don’t know what you mean