Sugarcoat
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I think it’s worth considering the idea of being the creator of one’s own suffering too. Because if it happens to be true we don’t wanna miss out on the opportunity to stop it. And questioning the self. In my experience with mental suffering it takes a lot of work to stop something as simple as imagining the future and fearing it, but it’s possible. Tricky and fascinating subject yes.
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Sugarcoat replied to Will1125's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You actually don’t think this it just sounds good doesn’t it -
Yea I’ve seen such patterns play themselves out
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Yes the self is not questioned by most it seems Yes exactly the selfs survival agenda creates suffering. Personally realizing this takes a lot of self awareness I believe I’m not sure if i agree that we create the self. But we are for sure involved in maintaining it. And we can change that involvement. Once again takes self awareness. Regardless it’s a good idea in general to try to become aware of one’s role in suffering as much as possible to try to minimize it
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Self awareness is key yes and being honest with oneself and setting ego aside
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Yes
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I agree with you that only exposure isn’t enough. It’s important to also do it consciously. I did contemplation too and as you say being more intentional with behavior where it doesn’t come naturally. Like I would smile and laugh when I noticed it was appropriate even if I didn’t feel like it because I was low. Or using short phrases (filler words etc) when it was suitable. Or actively focusing on the one who is talking to have less focus on myself. Sometimes it can feel forceful for a while before it feels natural, you gotta kinda push yourself to talk intentionally no matter what you feel to gain some momentum.
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People compare themselves to others. They don’t wanna be unique in any way but unique in a good way, a cool way, to gain a pleasurable identity for themselves. If many people are like you then it’s harder to derive a pleasurable identity from how you are since if everyone is pretty nobody is pretty, etc people need that contrast to others for their own identity’s sake. Their identity isn’t independent of others, it’s dependent on others to be in opposition, a contrast to you, to make your qualities stand out. They exist in contrast to other people’s qualities. Black needs other colors to exist for example
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Same
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Yea it can be worth it if it increases matches. Nothing wrong with not going out much if it feels like the life you wanna live Whatever works for you.
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I’ve not been in situations where the confidence goes up and down like that in relation to one another from what I remember but I see how that could happen. I have though experienced how different people can dominate the convo and how that can shift between people. I think if you manage to develop true confidence it should be there no matter who you interact with. Doesn’t mean your energy has to always be high, sometimes one can naturally sit back and listen and let someone else dominate the convo but one is still confident and relaxed just in a more quiet way because it suits the situation. So true confidence isn’t affected by other people and that’s the ultimate goal imo Thanks I’m glad it was that to you.
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Yea
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I say like Leo you have to keep exposing yourself to various social situations to expose yourself to your fears. To uncover all the ways you’re holding yourself back, being fake, all your strategies of avoidance (of eye contact for example). Learn to relax yourself while in these situations, relax the body. You could also subconsciously start to emulate a little bit of those seemingly confident people, that’s okay that is natural that it could happen in your social skills learning journey. It will take time. It took me years to completely transform myself from kinda awkward and insecure to natural and relaxed and confident. But it’s so worth it. You’ll get to a point where you don’t put those seemingly confident people on a pedestal anymore. You don’t see it as anything special because you have accessed it and built it in yourself so it’s normal to you. It’s both a building of confidence and breaking down of insecurity process. Anything that gives you confidence in other areas of life can also translate to your confidence in social situations because you’ll feel better about yourself in general.
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You have a point there. We are the very self that I’m talking about that creates suffering. I’d say we both have an involvement in it and it’s “automatic” at the same time. So let’s take for example the need to fit in and the suffering that comes from being rejected from the social group. We are genetically wired to want to fit in and not be rejected, so the suffering that comes from that is automatic. But maybe at the same time we have a role in it by feeding those negative thoughts, maintaining tension in the body etc. So it’s like it’s both. Which one is greater I don’t know. I think in general it’s a good idea to be open to the idea of being involved in generating one’s suffering, because let’s say it’s true, then one doesn’t wanna miss out on the opportunity to lessen the suffering rather than just feeling like a victim. So I’m with you there.
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It’s your choice to either play the game of the online dating apps or not. Maybe it feels like sacrificing some authenticity but I would say it doesn’t really matter in this context depending on to what extent you do it. And the reason being that the very initial attraction that makes someone swipe right on you (or maybe it’s left I don’t remember but I mean the direction that suggests they like you) is pretty much always going to be very superficial anyways. It’s gonna be based on your looks and then a little bit on the context of the image and the caption. It’s during the later interactions after you get a match that you get to showcase your authenticity and build something deeper there. I’d say don’t make yourself completely fake like making pictures that look like you have a hobby you don’t but a little bit of “fake” is fine. Like you said you like books and you don’t have physical ones, I think it’s fine if you’d go to a nice library or something and take a pic (maybe that’s not very interesting but you get my point so a little bit of fake is fine all the initial attraction is gonna be very superficial anyways)