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@How to be wise I see. It's fashion.

@How to be wise What medium are you naturally inclined to work with as your 'canvas' so to speak?

@The Don It's not just the fear of physical death but also the disappearance of the i am that causes fear.

Facing the fear would be excepting all things as they come without resistance or control.

@Aakash

@Aakash Nope. I'll read the pdf if there ever is one. What i do have is an origional copy of Alan Watts The Art of Contemplation a manuscript. Had that since it came out. That's a good one to have in any collection.

@Aakash Leo has an extensive book list already. It's really nice to have the book itself but maybe just the text can be found.

@Aakash Good deal! Maybe it's published in the UK?

See I don't like to do that. I'll back check by watching the vid. after reading the book that way I'm hearing the message through my own heart first. $35.00 US through Amazon.com

@Aakash I just skimmed over the video. Does he read through the whole book? I want to read it first before watching the video so I don't have any preconcieved ideas.

@Aakash I could feel that. When it's right it's right - beyond a thought.

@Aakash Did one better and ordered the book. Thanks

@Serotoninluv It's been a long time since I heard that song. It was probably on 45 record.

no matter what you think - rest assure that's not it.

@Aakash There's a lot to be said for throwing away. I once knew what God was but it was thrown away. I once knew what enlightenment was but it was thrown away. I once knew who I was but I was thrown away.

@VictorB02 Be careful that's not a trap because divine self can sometimes be just an extention of the ego. To actually become one with the divine self (being) there would be no going back to the illusion of the ego again. Just for an example, lets say one day your parents came to you and told you that you were adopted. How could you ever believe again that they were your true biological parents? It would totally change the way you define yourself.

Being of service to others is probally the last thing on Shin's mind right now. Been there before.

@Shin There's been a lot of that lately. I'm seeing it often too.

It's not at all impossable. You can learn through practice to overide your body/mind's natural defalt mode network (DMN) which is governed by the sense of self or ego. Mind over matter. Or in this case mind over body. Why does the heart start to race? Because the mind is sending false messages to the body "Get ready to Run" even though the threat is not physical during ego death. Someone could cheat a bit on the "dacades of practice" too with bio-feedback. I tryed using an Em-Wave heart coeffiency monitor and practiced messing with my ego like contemplating death then watching the heart/mind coefficency come in and out of sync . I'll throw some thoughts at the ego like mental images of impending doom. And while it seems like I'm not being shaken by the thought the the graph is showing something different. So you can see where the practice lies.

@Good-boy Most ppl would just bail out if something was really wrong. But yes it will get your heart pumping for sure. I liken ego death to a waterfall. Before the fall there is great turbulance. Over the fall there is only serenity.

@Good-boy I would'nt doubt that some ppl could scare themself to death. And all over an illusion. Sheesh!

@Shin That's the funny/true part about ego death. Ego death is never "comfortable" no matter what the circumstances.

Ego death could get you killed in the real world. Best to practice it in the comfort of your own home.

Ego death was setting in and he panicked.

Yea but it gets the message accross.