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I'm for throwing it all out. But that's just me and I could be wrong. But who can say Samadhi isn't just another level of delusion that needs to be surrendered.

@Monkey-man One of the perks of being enlightened is never having to say "excuse me" after letting one rip. O.K. that's a joke. Truthfully- use your discretion.

@blazed What do you expect to find? Get the cosmic joke yet?

@Absoloot Tooth How does that address this topic directly?

@blazed Let em all collapse and trust your own inner guru.

Just so we don't get into a debate over this it's getting locked. @tecladocasio gave their point of view. Enough said.

@sgn I'm sure Leo will share more info later how it happened (for him). Gotta wait and see.

@sgn It really doesn't matter. When it's time one simple word uttered could be enough. Even a glass shattering on the floor could be the catalyst. It happened and it is complete. That is all that matters.

In the relative world time allows for duration- movement. Just as there is no movement of the puppet until the puppet master pulls the strings, so it is with the influence of time on reality. In an absolute reality free from the distortional effect of time everything would be located at a point of singularity. Or in other words what may be be referred to as God. But time distorts that singular image of God as to create the illusion of separation/ distance, movement through time. So what do you guys think? Throw out the puppet master of time and your one step closer to Gods realm?'

@Nahm Time and space are like first cousins that have a child together named Reality.

Yea it loses it's dimensional factor and collapses into....?..... the absolute?. Or maybe better to say it returns to the absolute. But than again, all this is just a view from this relative reality within time and space.

@Nahm How many people live in the time warp never realizing what it's like to step out of it.

That's the magic. Why it happens? Again, that's the magic! You mention the reason to seek enlightenment is to "feel good". If an enlightened person sees the world as a magic trick made from nothing, how could they have anything other than a smile on their face? Good times or bad. No difference.

@Monkey-man Enlightened ppl don't ask why because there is nothing to ask about. Everything is the absolute and the absolute doesn't exist. I know that's a total paradox. But that's the truth of it. There is no one to wonder why. There is no duality. There is no non-duality. There is no enlightenment. There is no God. There is no creation. There is no one being born. There is no world. There are no appearances. There is no nothingness. There is no void. Everything is the absolute and the absolute doesn't exist. Drop the logic that asks why and it all makes perfect sense. Nothing is.

The Dualistic Mind

@Nahm I have a feeling what Sadhguru was talking about at the lake was more than your run of the mill intergalactic travelers. You've heard of parallel universes and dimensions. Parallel consciousnesses?

Yea right. You can't even come close b-c there is literally nothing there.

Good way to put it.

Not even the knowledge that one is centerless would be present in that realm or that it is beautiful or sacred.

Can you imagine beings that exist on a level of awareness beyond conscious awareness. I'm not saying beyond thought where only pure consciousness remains as in enlightenment. I mean a whole other level that doesn't exist anywhere within consciousness. To exist with no knowledge that you exist or maybe to say they exist in the absence of consciousness.

@sarapr I stole that one from Nisargadatta.

@sarapr What if you took that thought a bit farther and realized that no one is dying because no one is being born? (it's a deception you are the body/mind).

@tatsumaru Yea it's so great to have that childhood experience of oneness again. What a shame that door so often closes with time. The memory of the perfection and connectedness and completeness with reality that I experienced as a a child is what started this spiritual journey for me. Listening to Nissargadatta today "Rays of the Absolute" and he said something that connected it all together for me. That everything is is one consciousness. And i thought, that's what I experience in my childhood. That experience of oneness is consciousness.