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@Patang Oh i can tell you she's not enlightened at all. For instance it was Valentines day on Wednesday so I get her a nice card with a big red heart on the front. So I write in the card "Roses are red, violets are blue. I don't exist and neither do you". She totally didn't get it!

@Shin Just don't make the same mistake I did, find yourself an enlightened g-f!

@Patang Here's another for you! I should be busy cleaning the house for the weekend instead of fart'n around. Does cleaning house require the illusion of free will to accomplish or not? I did have the free will to clean this morning but now I see that's all an absurd illusion. So I'll put it to the test now. Lets see what the outcome is. This will be interesting! I'll let you guys know if the house gets cleaned or not. Do-da-do-da do.. O.K. So I have an hour or so to kill. How about me just hanging out here on the forum chillin with you guys? Is this also the illusion of free will or not? Should I stay or should I go? Which choice is not the illusion of free will? Chatting on the forum or cleaning the house? I hope this goes alright b-c even though the future is an illusion and also seeing the future- I'm predicting that when the G-F gets home from work later today (the future) she's going to say "What the hell did you do all day?" Than I'll tell her Patang and Nahm said free will and future are illusions so I applied no free will to get the house cleaned for an imaginary weekend".

@Patang I knew you'd see right through that one.

@Patang I found absolutely nothing to ground to. There is no me to ground to anything! What should I do now? Help me I'm scared! Reality seems like construct of the mind and so am I. Everything is collapsing in on itself! AAhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@John Iverson Enlightenment is totally counter-intuitive.

haha I know. I must of woken in a materialist's paradine or something today. I need to go meditate now. ..........Well that's a point too. There is nothing to do to become enlightened. That would be the illusion of free will also just like becoming president. I better just go meditate anyway.

@tsuki Haha It does seem to come with a heavy price.

@Patang But wouldn't that explain why some can see the future? So they say. Because it is already destine to happen?

@Faceless I realize it isn't. That's why I prefaced the comment with " in this dream reality".

@Nahm @Patang I get it now. Everything is already destine to happen. Are you saying our fate is sealed?

I can never seem to get traction on this "no free will" thing. Take Donald Trump for instance, he wanted to be president of the US for years. The chances of that happening were super slim. He couldn't even get the majority of votes and he is a total political outsider. But somehow he is president of the US now. Elon Musk wanted to put rockets into space someday. He is doing exactly that now. If you want to play an instrument, take lessons and learn to play an instrument. No free will? I don't get it. To me I seems as if this dream reality can manipulate itself through any intention it puts forth. That reality is Thought= Form. I thought of building a house. I learned how to build a house. Now a house stands where no house stood before. How is this?

That laugh says it all!

@Versa Nisargatta talks about each of us having a "Portal to the Absolute". Sound/vibration is one of them. I'd like to say you may have "found" your portal but if it is that than you already know it whether you realized it or not. Does this make sense to you? I can suggest what not to do. Never ask yourself or anyone else this again. That is the ego asking. If the portal for you is music, it opens when "you" are not there. When you are there, your just listening to music. But when your not there, see the difference? Music takes on a whole new dimension to it. But it must happen as if spontaneously arising of it's own. Don't try to "do" anything except create the right conditions (music in your case) and dissolve all longings for attaining anything. That's the key that opens all portals. Best of luck.

@SOUL I knew it sounded familiar. Jesus eating the sins of others. Yes!

@SOUL Buddha said that, right?

@SOUL We all love popcorn content. Reality is infinite so that bucket refills itself endlessly as you eat. When you think about it, this forum is a lot like a empty bucket and the members are the popcorn. See how it refills itself?

@SOUL Your eating up all my content. Thank you!

Ape? I'm the pop-corn bucket.

@Shin O.K, that too! @snowleopard Feel free to discriminate against yourself any time you like but make it clear your talking about yourself by maybe saying "my case" and not "this case" as in the general forum members that Galyna was referring to.

@snowleopard That sounds an awful lot like internet bullying. We don't discriminate against age, sex, nationality or race on this forum so please keep that in mind.

@Nahm That's the stuff that puts on this show called reality. Can you feel it? Oh ya!

@Nahm I think I know what your pointing at. In moments of stillness like that it feels as if consciousness is so prevalent you could almost scoop it out of thin air?

@DoubleYou Yes. You could say we have dreams of the dream we call reality. Or even dreams of other dream realities. The thing to remember is there is no dreamer sleeping or awake. The dream contains a sleep/dreamer or an awake/dreamer. Make the distinction that you are not any of these dreams but the one who awakens from them. To quote Nisargadatta: "Do not get involved in what arises". To me that means the dream.

@Nahm I was thinking the same yesterday. Particles have no definable location. The double slit experiment's outcome changes depending if an observer is present or not. Right there that tells you there is no true substance to anything. My hunch is this whole universe is one big dream and the individual entity is of course a part of that universal dream. Until awakening happens that is. The the question that gets asked most often is: If it's all a dream, why do we share the same dream of reality and it all seems so real? Answer: the whole universe is a dream appearing within consciousness. Maybe that's the missing link for science. Science should consider consciousness a dimension. Or even more than a dimension, physical reality's ground and origin.